"DSK Case Exposes Rifts Between Feminists"

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Lucy Wadham claims to be a feminist. So why is she dubbing those of us who believe DSK is guilty of rape as "Man-Haters"?

Any thoughts?

ok. if you were in charge what would you do? how would you make it fair?

The odds of any rapist being convicted are frighteningly low, given that the vast majority of rapes are not reported, and that of those that are and go to court, only a tiny percentage result in conviction - around 6%. In the cases that make it as far as the courts, the police and CPS believe that the women have been raped and there is a fair chance of proving it. Yet only 6% of those result in a rape conviction. That's an awful lot of rapists going free. And yes, they've been found not guilty, but that doesn't mean they're not rapists.

I find it sadly predictable that this journalist has chosen to focus on the reaction of British female writers rather than looking closer to her (adopted) home. The french media named the woman. They discussed her appearance and asked why he would want sex from her when he could pay for someone more attractive. They behaved in a way that makes sense of why France has reported rape stats a third lower than the UK and half those of Belgium.

So Edd, I take it you don't have any mother, sisters, female cousins or female friends? And given that you're likely to be a schoolboy, you hopefully don't have any daughters yet?

Are you happy with the odds? Of all the females you know, 1 in 4 of them will either have been or will be raped or sexually assaulted in their lives (that's a conservative estimate). 90% of those rapes or sexual assaults will not be reported. Of the ones which are, 3-4% will be mistaken or lies or the result of mental health problems. 6% of them will result in convictions for the rapist.

Are you happy that all the women you know who will be raped or assaulted, will never tell anyone else about it except a rape crisis helpline and will never get justice?

And if you are, then what the fuck are you doing even being in the same room as women?

Typical that she's focused on female writers isn't it.

She hs nothing to say about male ones.

I have women friends and family. funny you accuse me of being a schoolboy yet you seem very immature. I'd like rapists convicted but those falsely accused shouldn't be defamed

dittany I knew you'd respond like that. You don't have a real answer

But how do you know that the ones falsely accused are in fact falsely accused?

Given that 96% of them are correctly accused (at least) and that only 6% of them get convicted, that's a minimum of 90% who get off, who haven't been falsely accused, they just haven't been correctly convicted.

And that's without even starting on the 60-90% who are never even reported.

So um, the majority of rapists are not accused of rape. The majority who are accused, are guilty but don't get convicted.

So, what was it you were saying about not defaming those who are falsely accused?

'Those falsley accused' make up less than 6%. You seem to be equating a not guilty verdict with a false accusation.

Surely if the false reporting rate is between 3 and 6% and 7% are convicted that means between 87 and 90% cases are not proven?

We don't have a Not Proven verdict in English law STIDW

Only Not Guilty

I know you don't have the not proven verdict in English law which I think is rather a shame because if someone goes to court and isn't convicted it is usually because there isn't enough evidence. In any case the Stern Review found the conviction rate of 7% was misleading because apparently once a rape case reaches the courts, almost 60% of defendants are convicted which is higher than for other violent offences.

your funny. your ok to write belittling posts but you don't like it back? ah the underlying hypocrisy

and you are being immature throwing insults my way when I'm trying to discuss something

you're

then dont derail the thread with personal attacks maybe? it seems your upset because I don't agree with you and I challenge your viewpoints

OK, maybe "pig" was out of order. The rest, however, was fact.

You have spouted your sexism, misogyny and rape apologetics across several threads nwo. I don't think many people like it.

not trolling