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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Can you be a feminist housewife?

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wigglybeezer · 30/08/2011 14:00

Can you be a feminist if you don't have a career but your DH does, especially if this situation has been going on for a long time (13 years in my case)?

I don't feel downtrodden by the way, merely a bit bored and lacking in choice ATM. I earn a small amount of money, so don't have to ask DH for everything but I'm wondering if my Granny (who was a hospital consultant) was a better feminist than me. I just found a photo of her and her pals at medical school where she has noted on the back that there were 18 female medical students out of 180!

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LeninGrad · 31/08/2011 23:11

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beckybrastraps · 31/08/2011 23:13

Hmm SAF. That is effectively similar to how it works for my sister, who is a lone parent, working FT, who gets the bulk of her nursery fees paid for in tax credits, or who would get pretty much the same in benefits if she didn't have a job.

Would it be state childcare, and pay again for private (like schools?).

Or vouchers (with top ups payable where the provider is pricey?)

Again, would just the tax credit, worth less than the cost of your child in childcare, make you anything like approaching economic independence? Would you get a credit for every child, equivalent to the extra childcare?

scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:15

in this context people are discussing paying sahm wage.if people bandy terms like wage and job about in terms off housewifery they are way off mark.and yes if you want a wage,get a job.dont expoect state payment for watching your own kids.paying housewifes is not statutory requirement.

im not discussing carers or carers assessment that a whole diff statutory and assessed differently issue,carers and carers assessments are complex and have specific eligibility criteria

LeninGrad · 31/08/2011 23:17

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scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:20

a housewife is nit carer,and esp not when kids at school and free nursery 15pw. when kids at school would you still pay housewife to do what all day

carer is defined by state in quite an exacting and specific way with eligibility criteria.so no a carer is not simply a carer a carer.that would be incorrect

LeninGrad · 31/08/2011 23:21

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beckybrastraps · 31/08/2011 23:22

It's a different issue because it's cheaper government/electorate have decided it's a different issue. Were child carers to be classed as carers, then it would be the same issue. Small children need care. That at least isn't debatable.

scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:22

do you accept state has specific criteria and eligibility of what carer is

would you continue pay housewife when kids at school

LeninGrad · 31/08/2011 23:23

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scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:25

yes and child care doesnt need to be parents,can be paid for and undertaken by cm,nanny,nursery

children need care- yes
housewife need payment - no,not at all

and again child carers there are v specific criteria and assessment and statutory duties from LA to the minor who is a carer

scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:26

would you pay home alone housewife when kids at school
isnt that just doing nowt,if the children are away

LeninGrad · 31/08/2011 23:26

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LeninGrad · 31/08/2011 23:27

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scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:29

frankly people can apply subjective definitions whenever they wish,doesnt make it accurate. the statutory definition of carer is specific and has eligibility criteria prior to state payment

so any amount of socialsciencetastic oh its a carer,its acarer can be applied.doent make it so.nor guarantee agreement.or from your pov a guaranteed remuneration

beckybrastraps · 31/08/2011 23:30

I'm sure there are very specific criteria but I don't think changing eligibility criteria is without precedent!

scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:30

would you pay a housewife home alone,kids school

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scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:32

criteria is a filtering and assessment mechanism as state simply cannot afford huge benefits bill if people assert its a carer,its a housewife- and demand now cough up

beckybrastraps · 31/08/2011 23:33

I don't think I'd pay anyone actually. I'm just chewing the fat.

startAfire · 31/08/2011 23:33

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scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:33

well of course you dont get paid if you dont do agency/contract work. thats how the workd turns.what are you suggestion payment for not working? would you pay housewives be home alone,kids at school

beckybrastraps · 31/08/2011 23:33

I think the idea would be that the government changed the eligibility criteria...

scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:34

no full circle.keep up read the thread

scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:36

if govt and nhs, la changed eligibility criteria for many services they simply could not pay

criteria are put there to try limit amount of claims
remove criteria likely increase claims =more money
there simply isnt enough money

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