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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

You don't have to be feminist to post here, but it helps...

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MrsReasonable · 26/08/2011 17:50

I've noticed that whenever a 'non-feminist' view is brought up, there are occasionally some posts along the lines of 'this is a feminist board, why come here if you aren't...', etc.

Genuine question - is this a feminist board, or a board about feminism? Obviously the majority of posters are feminist, but I'm not sure whether that is because feminists (surprise surprise) like discussing feminism, or because it is seen as a feminist 'safe haven'?

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dittany · 28/08/2011 11:09

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rejectOfAllah · 28/08/2011 11:14

ChristinedePizan

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So you're only here to troll.^

Oh look, yet another completely unfounded allegation against me.

Keep going, you're showing yourselves up nicely... 2 completely unfounded allegations (anti-feminism and now trolling) without a being able to produce a single post to support your judgemental nastiness.

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SinicalSal · 28/08/2011 11:15

"There are issues... 44 years of having members of your gender use and abuse me, lie to and manipulate me... there are bound to be issues really aren't there? Which is why I'm afraid I won't have members of your gender in my life anymore... too many of you don't give a toss about anything but your own thoughts and feelings and are prepared to screw anyone over to have what you want... so yes there are issues... and if you and your sisters don't like that I can give you the name and address of the last woman who decided to screw me over... and you can take it up with her... cause TBH I'm not interested enough to care about anything a woman thinks or feels anymore."


This bit, Reject.
HTH

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rejectOfAllah · 28/08/2011 11:16

dittany wrote:

^Who are you Reject? And why do you think any of this discussion applies to you?

"That's nice... care to tell anyone what I've said that's anti-feminist?"

Well if you're asking, although I don't know why you need to - don't you read your own posts? - this is anti-feminist:

"I dared to point out that much of what is being passed of here as feminism is really no more than hate speech."

HTH^

That's not anti-feminist... not in anyway shape or form. Although if you want to explain to us all how passing an opinion that YOU don't like is anti-feminist I'm sure I can obtain a lot of laughs about it.

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Pan · 28/08/2011 11:17

greetings, d. hope you're keeping ok and will come back when good 'n ready.

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dittany · 28/08/2011 11:19

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rejectOfAllah · 28/08/2011 11:20

SinicalSal wrote:

"There are issues... 44 years of having members of your gender use and abuse me, lie to and manipulate me... there are bound to be issues really aren't there? Which is why I'm afraid I won't have members of your gender in my life anymore... too many of you don't give a toss about anything but your own thoughts and feelings and are prepared to screw anyone over to have what you want... so yes there are issues... and if you and your sisters don't like that I can give you the name and address of the last woman who decided to screw me over... and you can take it up with her... cause TBH I'm not interested enough to care about anything a woman thinks or feels anymore."

This bit, Reject.
HTH

What is anti-feminst about that? Is it that us men aren't allowed to choose to not have women in our lives? Is that your problem with that?

Come on seriously... tell us all where a single part of that in anyway oppresses women? Or slags them off? Or implies in anyway that they're not my equal?

Oh! Yeah that's right... it doesn't do any of that in anyway... so all that's left is that you don't believe I have the equal right to you to choose not to have women in my life... how does that work then?

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dittany · 28/08/2011 11:20

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LeninGrad · 28/08/2011 11:21

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rejectOfAllah · 28/08/2011 11:23

dittany wrote:

LOL, calling feminism "hate-speech" is the defintion of anti-feminism Reject.

That's good... now show us all where I called feminism hate speech?

Oh that's right I haven't... because pointing out that much of what is being passed off her as feminism is really hate speech is actually seperating feminism from hate speech... not calling feminism hate speech... isn't it?

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SinicalSal · 28/08/2011 11:23

Not going to engage further Reject. They're your words I've set down, not my problem if you don't understand them yourself. Interacting with someone like you is not likely to lead to any benefit to me so why should I.

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dittany · 28/08/2011 11:26

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rejectOfAllah · 28/08/2011 11:28

And that's the level of debate I can expact from you all is it?

You can't actually address the salient points I've made so you resort to calling me names, and slagging me off with false allegations about what I've said and what that means...

And you wonder why I read much of what is said here as hate speech... you're not interested in the discussion, or any debate... it's just a place where you can vent your bile towards men.

Oh And this constant tactic of trying to claim I don't understand what I'm saying... is ridiculous... you're making yourselves look foolish.

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dittany · 28/08/2011 11:29

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skrumle · 28/08/2011 11:32

but if everyone ignores he might go away and i'm starting to get a laugh out of this one...

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LeninGrad · 28/08/2011 11:34

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ProfessionallyOffendedGoblin · 28/08/2011 11:39

'you learn to predict which posters are the ones that you personally can have a discussion with, and which posters are too ideologically different for there to be grounds for a discussion to take place rather than a fight'

Is there not space for both LeninGrad and dittany here? You are ideologically very different, but isn't feminism big enough for you to agree to differ and move on? Mutual ignoring? Rather than personalising an argument about rules and manners and discussion?

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dittany · 28/08/2011 11:40

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dittany · 28/08/2011 11:48

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