You don't have to be feminist to post here, but it helps...

[MrsReasonable]

I've noticed that whenever a 'non-feminist' view is brought up, there are occasionally some posts along the lines of 'this is a feminist board, why come here if you aren't...', etc.

Genuine question - is this a feminist board, or a board about feminism? Obviously the majority of posters are feminist, but I'm not sure whether that is because feminists (surprise surprise) like discussing feminism, or because it is seen as a feminist 'safe haven'?

SybilBeddows wrote:

so it wasn't you who called some feminists 'rabid' on another thread today then, ManicGeek?

Yeah that would have been me... but I'm not the only one around here commenting about how some of the feminists here are a tad rabid in their expressed views.

The some is the relevant word... I don't for a minute condemn all feminists as rabid.

But it is a general statement against all women.

I haven't got a clue what your issues are Manic, but they're obviously making you unhappy. Someone who decides to cut all women out of his life (I presume you don't have a mother/ daughter/ mother of your children/ sister/ female cousins, aunts, nieces, female colleagues etc.) is taking on task which is going to make his life incredibly difficult, unless he lives in a monastery. And if you feel that half the human race is too difficult to have any interaction with, then you obviously have big issues and it's probably not doing you much good to be on a site dominated by people you don't want to have anything to do with.

I don't really want to have anything to do with racists, which is why I don't go on the Daily Mail BNP site.

Manicgeek,
Finding and keeping those rare people who actually enrich your life is hard enough without writing off half the world's population- whatever your reason.
Personally, I've been through some things in the last ten years of my life that I probably wouldn't have survived without the support of some very special women.
I suspect your world is an impoverished place- whether you realise it or not.

a question Manic....why are you here?
my question is genuine and im not being rude.
youve said why you dont have women in youre life[im the opposite-mostly]
and im wondering what you would gain from being here/what you hope to achieve?

well then ManicGeek, if you can't work out why you've been banned after that then we can't help you.

btw, wtf is all this 'I've been banned twice' whinging? If you're banned once, and then they ban you again even if you haven't said anything out of order the second time, it's not because of bizarre anti-male prejudice, it's because you're already banned and thus not allowed to come back.

Isn't it beyond etiquette/ethics to continue exchanging with a poster who has been banned by MNHQ? It sort of undermines one of the few sanctions the site has. That's the way I see it at least.

well there dont seem to be a lot of etiquette going on here lately pan.
im intreuged but youre probably right.

Yes you're right Pan.

But dare I say it, I'm actually beginning to feel a bit sorry for him. I think he needs help. But he obviously won't get it here as he's going about it the wrong way. Anyway I'm going to do what you suggest and stop engaging with him, you're right, I've been complaining to MN about not taking the trolling seriously and here I am engaging with a self-confessed troll (even though he doesn't think he is one).

Well really we should Pan. But he's like a mosquito bite :o

Lenin - I think it was mine at 20.30 re dittany's questions. Exchanging with manic is a poor tactic for the tread. < he isn't even posting about the OP>

good point Pan.

Well stop it!

I wrote a big post about how I don't think it's inconsistent to be able to call yourself a socialist and a feminist which I thought would interest at least Custardo, but nobody has engaged with it at all

Look back to the OP, my view is that you don't need to be feminist to post here but you need to be aware that this is a feminist space and mainstream thinking will be challenged or argued with, usually perfectly politely.

Unfortunately this perfectly polite direct challenge then sometimes results in rudeness, aggression and whinging about how you're being bullied because no-one else agrees with you.

And quite often, people who disagree with a feminist perspective, don't even wait for someone to challenge their POV, they are rude on their very first post and then whine and act outraged by the "bullying" when people respond in kind.

If you don't want people to be mean to you, don't be mean to them, either as individuals or as a group. It really is that simple. I have to agree with Dittany on this, we are not as a group a particularly nasty bunch of meanies, we are being accused of being so because we refuse to back down on our arguments and we refuse to stop discussing things which people feel uncomfortable about being discussed. But people are very rarely bullied or personally insulted unless they attack first or have a track record of posting deliberately wind up stuff.

I read it with interest LeBof and agreed with it.

I was interested LeBof, but tbh couldn't think of intelligent response. i suppose I should engage more rather than just nodding wordlessly at the screen in my darkened room...

About the premise of the thread, there's really nothing more to be said but we should all Have A Bit of Manners, as my mum'd say. But of course we all see the problem with that.

LeBof - just scrolled all the way back up and yes I agree.