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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Does penetration = presumption of power/control?

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skrumle · 17/08/2011 10:53

Was chatting with my H last night and mentioned the Romeo and Juliet law in Ireland that's been discussed on here a few times. Anyway, when I asked if he thought it was reasonable his immediate answer was "no". I then asked him: if our son was gay, and started a conversation about a sexual experience that he was unhappy/uncomfortable about would he be more likely to feel that our son had been forced/co-erced if he was the one penetrated rather than penetrating and got a Confused in reply...

I have to be honest, when I read the original thread on here my automatic view was that to protect girls over boys like this was to deny the fact that girls enjoy sex too, almost like taking a step back. When I read the thread fully though and thought about the implications for girls I probably did start to think that girls should have more protection than boys.

So, should there be a presumption that penetration equals a greater degree of control? So two heterosexual 15yos - greater responsibility lies with the boy to ensure that this is what both of them want?

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ThePosieParker · 25/08/2011 10:38

I'll be one of those LRD...all religion from the off is sexist!!! [sticks fingers in ears and hums loudly]

LRDTheFeministDragon · 25/08/2011 10:46

posie - I didn't mean to suggest there was anything wrong with that view (or with you or anyone else just not wanting to engage with a particular thread). It's just annoying if we can't even discuss it, you know? It's a bit like if I started a thread asking if we could discuss what makes a good feminist marriage and the only responses were 'marriage is enslavement of women' ... I'd be thinking 'erm, maybe so, but that didn't help did it?!' Grin

  • Not that I've ever seen that attitude to marriage on here, but I hear it happens in some circles.
startAfire · 25/08/2011 12:25

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LRDTheFeministDragon · 25/08/2011 12:33

Ok, I will try/someone else can try to start that thread when we all get a minute to ourselves again! Grin

Rooting for you with the proposal.

startAfire · 25/08/2011 12:44

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LRDTheFeministDragon · 25/08/2011 13:03

Thanks. Smile

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