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Feminism chat thread II

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 22/02/2011 00:30

Since it looks like the first chat thread is about to fill up, here's the next one all ready and waiting.

Think of it as the gated commune with babysitting on demand and gorgeous poolboys serving the drinks :o

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 31/03/2011 15:51

Thanks everyone Blush :o

I am very excited about it, just plotting ways to use new job for feminist cause :o

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steamedtreaclesponge · 31/03/2011 16:36

I think you should de-patriarch your patriarch...

But maybe start small and wear trousers every day? Grin

ChristinedePizan · 31/03/2011 16:47

Well done Elephants :)

Unrulysun · 31/03/2011 17:41

Excellent news Elephants! :)

I have an interview next week about which I am curiously ambivalent.

steamedtreaclesponge · 01/04/2011 09:48

Unruly I keep having those too. Would like to have an interview for a job that I'm actually excited about for a change!

Unrulysun · 01/04/2011 10:48

Yeah Treacle, it's a bit weird for me but I think it is me rather than the job. Normally I'm really gung ho about interviews but with this one I'm pretty meh.

It's for a number of consultancy days next year which would fit really well with my main plan of being a SAHM and enemy of the patriarchy I'm a bit worried that I might jinx it iyswim?

steamedtreaclesponge · 01/04/2011 10:59

I know that feeling - it's a sort of strategic pessimism so you don't get too upset if things go wrong!

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 01/04/2011 11:42

Yes I know it too - hope for the best, expect the worst. Especially when it's the exact job you want.

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ChristinedePizan · 01/04/2011 11:42

I just totally shot myself in the foot for some consultancy work saying that my day rate was double what they wanted to pay. Then I had to go back and say that actually, I would consider what they were offering. So now they know I'm desperate :o

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snowmama · 02/04/2011 19:53

Contracts Elephant...

Christine how do you know your day rate is double what they are prepared to pay?

ChristinedePizan · 03/04/2011 19:33

Because they asked me what my day rate was and I told them the top whack of what I charge. And they said they normally only pay half that. Was a bit silly really as I actually charge a range, starting at what they were offering. Ho hum - I'm learning (only been self-employed for five months). :)

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 04/04/2011 15:57

Hello feminist chatters.

Today I would like to share the fact that our feminist group meeting yesterday was really buzzy. We laughed, we raged, we argued, we plotted.

We had two new members of whom one is our first genuine 70s feminist and she had all sorts of interesting reminiscences like the fact that there used to be a women-only restaurant in the town.

AliceWorld · 04/04/2011 17:12

Sounds great Seth! I love 70s feminists Grin

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 04/04/2011 20:27

oh look, the University Challenge final has no women in it whatever Hmm

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 05/04/2011 00:29

ooh what about contracts? (quick, am signing soon) :)

That sounds lovely seth, I envy you. What was the restaurant called? Fanjolina's Kitchen? Has a nice ring to it. Or Emmeline's Cafe?

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ChristinedePizan · 05/04/2011 10:16

I heard David Willetts on the radio this morning saying that middle class women going to university have prevented social mobility because they have taken the places that in the 60s and 70s were thought would go to working class men. Oh and women - but he added them in as an afterthought. I hate that whole divide and rule thing, where's women's advancement is seen to be at the expense of the working class.

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 05/04/2011 10:26

If there is a clause in it that says 'I vow to uphold the patriarchy in all its guises', Elephants, make sure you cross it out before you sign.

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 05/04/2011 17:03

phew just in time Seth [brandishes red pen]

That's right Christine, it's another variant on the "there are no jobs because foreigners are taking all our jobs" line. Except when people say that, everyone realises that they are trying to stir up xenophobia and excuse other reasons.

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MillyR · 05/04/2011 18:09

A man was constantly smiling and staring at DD (10) on the bus today from the moment she got on until he got off about 10 mins later. I know he is a child sex offender who went to prison for assaulting a primary school age girl on a bus.

He lives near DD's school (her school is in a different village to where we live), and she waits for a bus (there are other adults and children around) at least 2 days after school a week. She also sometimes wants to go to the park with her friends after school. The man's house is between her school and the park.

I really want her to have as much freedom as DS did at her age, but I am concerned with her having the same routine week in, week out, and him having noticed her, that she is now at a higher risk.

Am I unduly worrying?

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 05/04/2011 18:38

Christ, I would tell the police.
for any normal person smiling and staring at a child would be utterly innocent and nice, but he may be breaching some kind of conditions by attempting to make contact with her.

I am not generally into paedo hysteria because I don't think they're around every corner, but if he is actually trying to make contact with strange kids he is out of order. I mean, if they let a convicted paedophile out of prison they presumably don't tell them 'you can make friends with kids, just don't try any funny business', they would tell them to leave kids alone completely, wouldn't they?

I think I would let her go to the park with friends and only then if she can be trusted not to speak to strangers, and you would probably have to explain something of the reason why.

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MillyR · 05/04/2011 20:51

I've decided to speak to the school tomorrow, and a parent who lives in the village, who will be more familiar with the situation with him than I am.

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sethstarkaddersmackerel · 06/04/2011 13:10

for people not on my Facebook who might be amused by this:
They were doing 'counting in 2s' at school and dd informed her teacher she already knew how to count in 2s 'because of feminism' and proceeded to demonstrate: '2,4,6,8, No more violence, no more hate.' I fear there will have been sniggering in the staff room.

(it was actually 'not more violence, no more rape' but I told her it was hate because I thought at 5 she didn't really need to know about rape.)

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