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Discussion on Woman's Hour NOW about raunch culture, objectification of women etc.

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HerBeatitude · 29/10/2010 10:28

Just thought I'd let you all know...

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redhappy · 29/10/2010 10:32

thanks, switched on now

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HerBeatitude · 29/10/2010 10:37

God that was a load of shit wasn't it?

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redhappy · 29/10/2010 10:45

Only caught the end of it, was grabbing something to eat too. I'm afraid it didn't engage me enough to take my attention away from food!

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EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 29/10/2010 10:59

Missed it - what was the gist?

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redhappy · 29/10/2010 11:03

I caught 2 snatches of it...

David Cameron having much in common with baby-boomer feminists because of the Conservative promotion of traditional values...

Something about girls rolling their school skirts up...

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EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 29/10/2010 11:14

Sounds like bollocks from what it says here. Does being against the objectification of women make you a prude?

No.

There, saved everyone some time.

Also Hmm at this: " real bread - made from a few simple, natural ingredients - has been making a comeback. And men have had a big part to play in its renaissance. At this year?s Baking Industry Awards, men won all the top prizes. So what is the fascination?" - er, is this woman's hour or bread hour? Surely we have the rest of the schedule to nod along while men talk about their interests and achievements.

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Unwind · 29/10/2010 11:16

Women's hour - digs at feminists from some obnoxious idiot

followed by much discussion of how much the presenter loves eating bread Hmm

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HerBeatitude · 29/10/2010 14:12

It totally pissed me off that Jenni Murray didn't challenge that implication that if you oppose the pornification of our culture, it's because you don't like sex.

It is such a lazy argument. Why are all these morons still being permitted to make it without challenge?

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StewieGriffinsMom · 29/10/2010 14:23

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EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 29/10/2010 14:34

I want to love it, and it is one of the few places in the media that you will hear about female artists/composers/musicians/non-celeb actors etc. But it seems to be becoming more and more...giggly? And featuring more and more articles that seem to have nothing to do with women at all. Is bread a feminist issue? Is it anything to do with women at all? No it bloody isn't so put it on the food programme and have done.

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Unwind · 29/10/2010 14:41

Today was the first time I'd listned to it in a while.

The "obnoxious idiot" was Maria Grasso, a PhD student. Does anyone know what qualified her to be part of that programme?

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StewieGriffinsMom · 29/10/2010 14:59

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EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 29/10/2010 15:01

They are speaking at this - and oh look MN gets a ref in the first sentence.

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EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 29/10/2010 15:02

"Why are men doing so well?"

"I don't know if it's so much that men are doing well as much as women not getting the visibility in baking...[list of good female bakers]"

Now who sounds like the feminist there? Not JM that's for sure.

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HerBeatitude · 29/10/2010 15:06

Is anyone going to that battle of ideas thing on sunday?

Or indeed, the feminist fightback workshop tomorrow?

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EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 29/10/2010 15:08

what workshop?

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StewieGriffinsMom · 29/10/2010 15:17

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HerBeatitude · 29/10/2010 15:28
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EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 29/10/2010 15:31

Are you going HerBea?

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EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 29/10/2010 15:31

Can men go too?

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AliceWorld · 29/10/2010 15:51

Battle of the ideas "If once it was feminists who campaigned against the objectification of women, now it?s a Conservative prime minister, backed up by Mumsnet."

Wow finger on the pulse! If only there was a prominent organisation campaigning about objectification eh. Maybe they could call themselves, I don't know, thinking off the top of my head, Object. They could see if they could change some laws or something. But not sadly we just have Dave-come-lately.

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EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 29/10/2010 16:02

Where is Dave campaigning against the objectification of women, actually?

Excellent point, Alice.

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sethstarkaddersmummyreturns · 29/10/2010 16:04

I suspect the Battle of Ideas thing will be a set-up; I have been to one of their things in the past and it wasn't chaired even-handedly. (and I thought so even I agreed with them that time.)

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AliceWorld · 29/10/2010 16:13

I think he's off out in his PJs with some brown paper bags and a marker pen later.

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dittany · 29/10/2010 17:51

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