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A challenge to Mumsnet

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BitOfFun · 15/10/2010 13:18

I am posting and running, as I am having a break this weekend, but thought I would flag this up for you all first, as it's interesting:

liberalconspiracy.org/2010/10/14/a-challenge-to-mumsnet/#comment-185859

The comments have kicked off an interesting debate on the 'Let Girls Be Girls' campaign.

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LeninGrad · 15/10/2010 19:37

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AliceWorld · 15/10/2010 19:40

Absolutely. Its not for women to speak up about what we want to, it's for us to speak up for everything else and be the givers in society. Hmm

As someone else once so eloquently said here, do Greenpeace get this?

AliceWorld · 15/10/2010 19:45

Can I have a big Grin Hmm that when I go on that site, the activism on the top bar is greyed out. Is that just me? (It does amuse me considering...)

MIssAnneThrope · 15/10/2010 19:49

Well bleedin' said, AliceWorld.

Increasingly I'm finding that misogynists are wiggling the painful loose-tooth of class, in order to undermine women who have opinions.

Class is an important issue, should always be factored in.

But how many men who have opinions, speak them, try to gather support for them, join together with others to further their aims, are told they are middleclassbots?

I fucking HATE the term 'yummy mummy'.

claig · 15/10/2010 19:56

She says

"That?s just my opinion anyway ? not the ?progressive left? of which I am not a member, whatever it is. Bleugh! A pox on your jargon!"

She's not even a progressive. I think she has just used Mumsnet to create a stir and get lots of hits on her blog. It's given her visibility.

LeninGrad · 15/10/2010 20:01

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GoreRenewed · 15/10/2010 20:01

Oh dear! How dare we care about the premature sexualisation of children when people are starving and the ice caps are melting!

sethstarkaddersmummyreturns · 15/10/2010 20:27

rofl re activism bar. That is very funny.

it reminds me of the thing where people criticise feminists for campaigning for women on the grounds that the critic is an equalist who believes in campaigning for both men and women.... except more often than not they never actually do any campaigning for equality for anyone.

EvilEyeButterPie · 15/10/2010 20:28

I've waded in. I keep coming across people from that site at events. Sigh.

Prolesworth · 15/10/2010 20:32

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wukterWOOO · 15/10/2010 20:35

That's a bit harsh Sethstarkadders, the 'equalist' tag is like the default setting for fairminded people before they've really delved into the issues. ime.

sethstarkaddersmummyreturns · 15/10/2010 20:44

mmm, I see what you mean Wukter - yes, in those cases, fair enough, but you do get it thrown at you quite aggressively too when you are campaigning and people think you shouldn't be.

BarbaraSeville · 15/10/2010 20:44

I see what you mean, wukter. But that is quite a self-avowedly political site, and I would expect the contributors to be rather more savvy than average. Especially as some of them seem happy to dismiss MNers as airheads.

BarbaraSeville · 15/10/2010 20:45
Grin

cross-posted there!

Prolesworth · 15/10/2010 20:46

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BarbaraSeville · 15/10/2010 20:47

Hehe- it's new Wink

claig · 15/10/2010 20:47

I think she has just posted on twitter

"I've just had a great laugh and I owe it to someone called Dittany...? Notoriety already and i'm still sober. This must be a first."

I think we are just giving her the publicity that she wants.

mrspnut · 15/10/2010 20:47

I didn't realise that the Beverly Hillbillies could use a computer.

dittany · 15/10/2010 21:03

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claig · 15/10/2010 21:07

dittany, she is using us. You are more famous than her. She is a nobody on a joke site called Liberal Conspiracy, full of whining lefties pretending that they will change the world. Mumsnet is huge and gets politicians courting it. That's what annoys the lefties, nobody listens to Liberal Conspiracy.

Prolesworth · 15/10/2010 21:09

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BarbaraSeville · 15/10/2010 21:13

I am a bit of a leftie aksherlly AngryGrin

But I think the key thing is that sites like that feel radical, but they are only actually talking to each other. Whereas on here, the politics may be more dilute, but you are actually conversing with 'normal' people and stand a chance of changing somebody's mind.

It is a more 'activist' position, if you count yakking on messageboards, to really engage with people who don't necessarily see themselves as political animals. Otherwise it all gets a bit People's Front Of Judea.

wukterWOOO · 15/10/2010 21:15

Yes that's true about political awareness.

You could somehow take it as a form of flattery, I suppose, Dittany.

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claig · 15/10/2010 21:16

In fact Ed Vaizey was on Any Questions just now and said something to the effect that politicians get the greatest grilling on Mumsnet, and Dimbleby said "we had the founder of Mumsnet on the programme and she was alright", and Vaizey said something like "just wait until you see her blogging".

These political activists are annoyed that ordinary mums give politicians a greater grilling than the media and they themselves could ever do. They want to control the political debate and brainwash everybody to follow them.