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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

A challenge to Mumsnet

149 replies

BitOfFun · 15/10/2010 13:18

I am posting and running, as I am having a break this weekend, but thought I would flag this up for you all first, as it's interesting:

liberalconspiracy.org/2010/10/14/a-challenge-to-mumsnet/#comment-185859

The comments have kicked off an interesting debate on the 'Let Girls Be Girls' campaign.

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AliceWorld · 15/10/2010 21:20

Which reminds me of the comment on there trivalising that people on mumsnet engaged with politicians about something to do with help with disabled children. Cos after all if you're a intellectual, progressive, left leaning liberal then you can't be expected to have ever heard of the personal being the political can you Hmm

BarbaraSeville · 15/10/2010 21:21

I'm getting images now of Harry Hill having us on his show- "There's only one way to find out...FIIIGHT!"

Grin
AliceWorld · 15/10/2010 21:26

lol Grin

scottishmummy · 15/10/2010 21:30

yes perhaps they could meander over and be asked what about da menz?is you really a feminist sista

so they are discussing mn.quite healthy really
mn discusses daily mail, daily

sethstarkaddersmummyreturns · 15/10/2010 21:36

'But I think the key thing is that sites like that feel radical, but they are only actually talking to each other. Whereas on here, the politics may be more dilute, but you are actually conversing with 'normal' people and stand a chance of changing somebody's mind.'

that is exactly it Barbara.
And it is fabulous training for doing stuff beyond yacking on messageboards, because you really get your ideas all sorted out and your arguments nicely polished and also have some sense of what people beyond your immediate social circle who aren't too polite to tell you what they really think, actually think.

I just lurrrrve the way MN gets feminist arguments all over the board as well as having a special feminist section. If we were all just in a little feminist club we would be bored by now.

sprogger · 15/10/2010 21:38

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LeninGrad · 15/10/2010 21:40

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scottishmummy · 15/10/2010 21:41

well thats the point isnt it,feminism isnt the reserve of the socialsciencetastic academics.it is a lived experience,which naturally everyone lives and experiences differently.there is no right way or specific orthodoxy.all topics should be accessible and permeate

sethstarkaddersmummyreturns · 15/10/2010 21:44

yes completely SM.
maybe that's why I've found the feminism on MN far more engaging than the academic books I've read over the last decade or so - not just because the third wave had lost its way or whatever, but more fundamentally than that, that actually engaging with real life is the only possible way to make a feminism that makes sense....

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claig · 15/10/2010 21:45

exactly scottishmummy, what we get on here are disparate views, not just the party line. That's what makes us think and see things in a different light, rather than accepting the party line.

scottishmummy · 15/10/2010 21:46

i have health cynicism about everything.id never want to be in a clique that wanted me

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claig · 15/10/2010 21:49

scottismummy, that's like the classic Groucho Marx quote
"I don't want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member."

scottishmummy · 15/10/2010 21:50

you are paraphrashing erroneously and grasping at straws

i have healthy cynicism about everything,by nature i am inquisitive.it is good to challenge and push

LeninGrad · 15/10/2010 21:58

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scottishmummy · 15/10/2010 22:00

haven't participated in other forums,but dont see any malice or harm in them namecheckin mn

LeninGhoul · 15/10/2010 22:03

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scottishmummy · 15/10/2010 22:08

mn is a mixed bag too.the relentless my wanking-shitting-rabbiteating-mil threads are a bit intellectually challenged,but it is open forum and there is place and space for everyone and all views

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scottishmummy · 15/10/2010 22:15

but given the brand MN has secured good online interviews and prominence etc it patently isnt just blethering mammies

but yes for each acolyte there is a detractor.and good thing too,mn need frisson. discursive love-ins are dull dull

claig · 15/10/2010 22:17

The politicians cancel their schedules to make time to come on here and garner a few more votes. Then they find they get a grilling and their spin gets short shrift. then the "official" media journalists get jealous because they feel that they are losing influence and people are not reading their columns to hear their cliched pronouncements, so they start making fun of Biscuitgate threads to undermine the importance of Mumsnet in an attempt to deperately hold on to their dwindling readership.

scottishmummy · 15/10/2010 22:18

biscuit story,is that the digestive biscuit game.of urban legend

BarbaraSeville · 15/10/2010 22:22

Fair analysis there, claig. Explains a lot.