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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

is there a new cognitive dissonance thread?

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kickassangel · 27/09/2010 13:35

if so, please link, i can't find it.

if not, i'd like to add some things

using personal experience to prove a point is not a great argument. we have to start with the bigger picture, then see personal experiences as a case study which exemplifies, but does not prove a point.

i'm not even sure that i view myself as a feminist. i view myself as someone who believes in equality (not just on male/female issues). the generalisations about feminism being a religion i find offensive, as they both ignore the patriarchal society we live in (and this assertion can be backed up by endless statistics & experiences), and assume that one particular viewpoint is religious.

is marxism a religion? what about other schools of thought?

feminism is a broad range of thought, and there will be changes and shifts within the arguments, just as there are in other sociological concepts. and there will be women who abuse, just as there are men who do so.

however, look at the structure of society, and it is impossible to say that it isn't patriarchal. just look at the possession of wealth, the media representation of people, the male/female ration in positions of power.

if it was as simple as some women 'not bothering' to push themselves forward, there would still be enough women to fill 50% of all key positions in society, and to hold 50% of the wealth, but that isn't what happens. so, it sin't due to a lack of women exerting themselves, it is due to the inherent sexism within society.

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Sakura · 15/10/2010 08:44

It's not taboo, Unwind. It just doesn't happen to men, therefore people do not know about it.
I didn't know about lochia, after childbirth for example. I simply hadn't been told. I didn't know that even after a drug-free easy birth I'd feel like I'd been hit by a ton of bricks and neede lots of practical help around the house. Despite all my reading, there were simple, basic facts of life that I was clueless about.

I realised that all the films, all the images and scenes you see about women were wrong. They were women's lives seen through the eyes of men, which is quite a different reality to the truth.

And the biggest shocker was how amazing creating new life is- how significant, and important. Now that is the best kept secret in the world.

But it's not a secret, really. It's just that it's women's world, on the whole, which is wrapped in silence. All we ever hear about is the silly little insignificant things men get up to.

[sorry, patriarchy has got to me more than usual today]

LeninGhoul · 18/10/2010 12:55

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