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Feminism chat thread

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 25/09/2010 10:46

Hello

Been saying for ages that it'd be nice to have an area for just saying hi, letting off some steam and sharing the little things that don't warrant a whole thread.

So, I'll start...

My brother made me :o:o:o last night when we were talking about some crap sexist song. And he said (in all honesty) - well this is just one of the millions of ways the patriarchy keeps itself going.

Also got the updated email from the Feminism in London conference this morning - can't wait.

Anyone else?

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AliceWorld · 13/02/2011 20:03

Seth you haven't and I worried afterward I should have even referred to it. Did look to me though like there was more going on that just the tea towels and you had the nail on the head about dissatisfaction with autonomy. Hope you work things out.

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 13/02/2011 20:06

rofl, of course there is more going on than just the teatowels, if you were on my Facebook you would know all about our kitchen bench Wink
no, it was absolutely right that the MN feminists mentioned it because it will stop anyone else from thinking 'oh I'm so clever, I've spotted that Seth is being very unfeminist in her relationship even though she actually claims to be a feminist!' etc.

AliceWorld · 13/02/2011 20:08

Kitchen bench! The site of all relationship disasters... Wink

vesuvia · 13/02/2011 20:11

sethstarkaddersmackerel - "a thread about my dh and teatowels. so if anyone ever brings it up in order to make MN feminists look silly, you will know who to blame"

Forewarned is forearmed! Wink

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LilBB · 13/02/2011 21:15

What's a kitchen bench?

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 13/02/2011 21:26

A bench. For sitting on. In the kitchen. Smile

(or rather, Angry when I contemplate said kitchen bench)

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 13/02/2011 21:28

anyway, back to feminism: dd pointed out a third CBeebies programme currently on with a main female character/presenter: Same Smile.
to add to Come Outside and I Can Cook (no stereotyping there).

to set against the 10 or 20 with male main characters/presenters and the handful where it is definitely equal.

LilBB · 13/02/2011 21:33

Makes sense.

What about Nina and her Neurons?

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 13/02/2011 21:44

that would make 4, and get extra points for being non-stereotypical Smile. haven't seen it on lately though. DirtGirlWorld is 5, of course, but not on at the moment.

LilBB · 13/02/2011 21:57

Mighty mites too. Which are men only? I can only thinks of Big Cook Little Cook, Kerwhizz, Something Special and Gigglebiz.

LilBB · 13/02/2011 22:02

Although must confess we are mostly Nick Jr watchers in our house and I haven't noticed any feminist issues with that channel. Also how old is Come Outside?? I think I watched that as a toddler.

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LilBB · 13/02/2011 22:03

With the exception of the bloody adverts!!!

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 13/02/2011 22:07

we watched 10 in a row which were mostly not men only - there was often a secondary character who was female who ranged from cool (Wendy in Bob the Builder) to stereotyped (Panzee in Zingzillas) but the leading character was male.

off the top of my head:

Bob the Builder
Postman Pat
Octonauts
Zingzillas
Buzz and Tell (may not always be? but was that day.)
Mr Maker
Rastamouse
Big and Small
Grandpa in My Pocket
Charley Bear
Nuzzle and Scratch

msut go to website and count systematically....

We actually counted Kerwhizz as equal because although the presenter is male, 2 of the 3 teams are female.

equal included:
Something Special
Charlie and Lola

LilBB · 13/02/2011 22:10

Rastamouse? I haven't even heard of that one. It's been non stop Ben and Holly this weekend with the odd Dora or Peppa Pig.

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 13/02/2011 22:18

Tellytubbies scores as equal. We have gone backwards.

I wonder if Milkshake is better than CBeebies.

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sakura · 14/02/2011 03:59

well

MY DD (4) corrected me today whilst watching Tom and Jerry.

me: "Oh look he's getting the naughty cat"

DD. "No Mum, she's getting the naughty cat. Jerry is a she

I'm secretly pleased that she believes females can be as... err... assertive as Jerry, but is feminism really about being as violent as males... Confused

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sakura · 14/02/2011 08:08

SaF wins

Blackduck · 14/02/2011 08:19

Anyone seen Gnomeo and Juliette? There's a film ripe for a bit of analysis - she actually gets glued down! Ds is very hot on the only girls can do this and boys that thing. Gets very annoyed about it :) But then mummy is the boss in this house :)

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Blackduck · 14/02/2011 08:29

I think ds sees it more because he is in the minority at school (his year is two thirds female to a third male, and is it beginning to show!). having said that ds watched back to back Thomas the Tank - enough said :)

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