Do you think that men are oppressed?

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For example; the traditional male role is to go out and work so technically men are oppressed by capitalism. Aren't they? Mabe not as oppressed as us girls are though. Thoughts please.

oh gawd, dn't bother to engage with him, he's an unhappy mysogynist.

He thinks there's a good reason why the word slut was invented and why it's still used.

(he said that on another thread btw in case anyone is wondering why I said that)

yeah you're right HB.

"Taking these things into consideration, the fact that men are often forced into working much harder most of the time because they are forced to become a father. These fathers then go out and get WHATEVER JOB THEY CAN."

Forced? Why don't these poor oppressed men use condoms or is contraceptives only for women to worry about. If you don't want children don't have sex or use condoms.

Judging by your spelling I take it you are American? In the UK the laws regarding non payment of child support are pathetic.

Oh, and you know that working in a nursing home means literally wiping arses (and being very badly paid) so I am at a loss as to how you think this is an easy job.

Sakura's alreeady pointed out on the other thread, that nurse and prostitute are the most dangerous jobs.

Is nursing one of the most dangerous professions?
Just curious as to why that would be so, don't doubt the dangers of prostitution

nurses are often attacked by violent drunk patients

God yes especially at A&E on Friday and Saturday nights.

But also, patients with mental health problems. Adn nurses are subjected to an astonishing level of sexual harrassment from male patients.

yes

lots of injuries from lifting patients too.

Surely being a soldier on the frontline in Afghanistan is far more dangerous than being a nurse

Anyone got any opinions on what would be a good label for this woman? How many men can she accuse and still be taken seriously? Fortunately for that guy, he wasn't in NYC and he didn't pay her any money, he'd be forced to pay anyways under laws passed by feminist judges.

As for the nursing home gig, yeah, you wipe asses, might get abit messy. At least there is air con, nice clean breakrooms, predictable shifts... My mum's a div 2 nurse, I did community service there as part of my HS work experience class so I saw and did alot of what they do there.

Different job entirely from septic plumbing, sometimes they have to climb into septic tanks that store human waste for months at a time or even work on mains sewerage with all the fresh turds and tampons and used condoms.

My nextdoor neighbour's Dad was a sparky like mine, he died working on high-voltage cable. He earned alot of money before he died compared to say a nurse or an office worker like say myself but he had to risk his neck for those extra dollars. My father has had alot of dangerous falls, once he slipped on a ladder, fell about a story and a half, clipped his face on the way down and lost all of his teeth.

I mean, what WOMAN would go back to a job where she got all of her teeth smashed out? None, they've all got scholarships and special help to get cheap educations... funded by people like my Dad of course.

Beertricks

HerBeatitude Sun 05-Dec-10 17:39:09

God yes especially at A&E on Friday and Saturday nights.

But also, patients with mental health problems. Adn nurses are subjected to an astonishing level of sexual harrassment from male patients.

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Yeah? There was this one old lady at my mum's work who kept masturbating in front of staff and trying to hop into people's beds. Everyone thought it was funny because she had dementia. LOL. One time, another woman caught her trying to jump into bed with her husband... they hobbled around trying to hit each other with walking frames, classic. Same woman died about three months later of a heart attack, it was quite sad.

When it comes to insane patients, they come in equal numbers at the nursing home at least. Alot of older women are very distrustful of anyone, sometimes they bite and scratch. Had this old boxer trip out once, tried to fight one of the male nurses when he wouldn't let the guy leave the premises. He almost KO'ed the guy before he was sedated, he lost that vigour in a matter months. A pity, you think an old boxer would have alot of cool stories?

BeerTricksPotter Sun 05-Dec-10 18:47:11

Is it me, or is BillHicks not funny any more?confused

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Bill Hicks is ALWAYS funny. :p

Bill - sod off...

What an odd bump of an old thread. BillHicks what forum have you come from then?

Is this some kind of invasion?

Maybe the feminist section of Momsnet has already told him to piss off.

Bill Hicks was a twat.

Bill Hicks is just one man. Though, if I went through your archives, found suffiently anti-male statements and posted them on OTHER places I lurk... Well... Alot of people might get offended by how shabbily some of the women on here treat men.

Instead of a reasonable if somewhat coarse, 20-something year old man posting here, you'd have rabid teenagers flooding the place. This MRA thing is spreading, every time a woman says something publically that infringes on men's rights she risks having someone pick up on it and use it as an example... then people flood in.

Eventually, this thing will spread as far as feminism has and when it does alot of bullshit will end although feminists will get most of what they want... just not anything above and beyond what men get which is where the feminist agenda has gone nowadays.

Have you been drinking as your post is incomprehensible?

You know nothing BillHicks. Try thinking for yourself and not believing everything that's spoonfed to you.

I'm an on an iphone. It is a little hard to type on, I'm also nearing the end of a rather boring night shift.

If you really think I know nothing, it's probably because you haven't seen both sets of evidence. I got bombarded by feminist shit in school with not one opposing view put across not even just to play devil's adovocate.

We are constantly bombarded by feminist propaganda here. Some of the people in the domestic violence adverts risked being beaten senseless because people were too stupid(emotional) to realize they were paid actors, then the second this kinda advert ad ends on comes a sitcom where some poor TV husband is physically intimidated/slapped/insulted by his wife to the sounds of a laughter track. You'd never see the reverse.

I see artists like Lily Allen releasing songs about getting revenge on a cheating boyfriend by having him robbed, beaten and then house-burgled. That damn song became an anthem amongst teenage girls, but do you think a male would get air time on MTV covering the same subject?

I hear about fathers so deseperate to see their kids they dress up like superheros and take to streets, climbing the royal palace to show their resolve and I start to think why do men need to do these things if we're all equal?

Feminists make statements that are patently untrue, statements that if slightly altered could be mistaken for the words of white power fuckwit. "All men are rapists because they are men" vs "All BLACKS are rapists because they are black." It is gross double standards that piss people like me off.