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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Coping with Trolls and Derailers

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 11/08/2010 16:26

There have been some very persistent posters on here recently - some of them funny (unintentionally), and some of them not - dragging threads off track so we have to go back and explain something over and over again. I'm all for a lively debate, but there always comes a point when you realise that they are not listening at all, are on a blatant wind-up mission, or are just insulting posters with no intention of debating the original issues.

If we don't want this to happen, and bearing in mind that some people spot the pattern quicker than others, I was going to suggest that we have something like a warning word/phrase that could alert other posters to the fact that they are wasting their time. What do you think? Is this a stupid idea?

Saying "ah, a troll" just adds fuel to the fire you see. But if you were to say "I blame Princess Michael of Kent" or something, and then everyone disappears...well it might work? Grin

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YouDontWantToKnow · 14/08/2010 13:54
  • But I don't feel that way. In case you are wondering.

As I said. I am all about Act out. Speak up. Educate.

YouDontWantToKnow · 14/08/2010 13:55

I am very engaged in the discussion. Extremely so.

nasdaq · 14/08/2010 13:56

Harassment, in general terms, is unwanted conduct affecting the dignity of men and women in the workplace. It may be related to age, sex, race, disability, religion, sexual orientation, nationality or any personal characteristic of the individual, and may be persistent or an isolated incident.

The key is that the actions or comments are viewed as demeaning and unacceptable to the recipient.

YouDontWantToKnow · 14/08/2010 13:56

This is what this section is all about, right?

Feminism/women's rights?

nasdaq · 14/08/2010 13:57

Obviously we are not in the workplace however the definitions fits in this situation.

Sakura · 14/08/2010 13:58

so if the recipient feels uncomfortable at the persistent harrasment, it doesn't matter whether the perpetrator "believes" he's harassing or not, it's still harassment, isn't it.

Sammyuni · 14/08/2010 13:58

YDWTK

Your posts are random and often nonsensical that is not a discussion that's just a person gibbering to them self. Want to be taken seriously? then post seriously.

YouDontWantToKnow · 14/08/2010 13:59

Projected reversal and confrontational manipulation based on the perspective of the targeters and stemming from the pre designed claims agreed upon between the targeters and supported only by their designed version of events.

I don;t see how educating the public about the abuse cycle is threatening to those who wish to learn about a very real and very serious issue as relates to the forum section and women's rights.

After all, the abuse of women is a focal point in the area.

YouDontWantToKnow · 14/08/2010 14:01

Why would you want to report some one who is educating the forum about the defined and recognized abuse cycle and its formats, traits, and characteristics.

Women need to learn how to identify it.

YouDontWantToKnow · 14/08/2010 14:04

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_of_abus

www.heart-2-heart.ca/women/page5.htm

www.squidoo.com/cycleofabuse

To break the cycle, one must know the cycle.

nasdaq · 14/08/2010 14:04

Yes Sakura. I am uncomfortable with the posts from
YouDontWantToKnow.

YouDontWantToKnow · 14/08/2010 14:05

And one must become aware of knowing it consciously.

YouDontWantToKnow · 14/08/2010 14:06

Why would you be uncomfortable with educating women about the importance of learning how to recognize a cycle of abuse so they can break it and be safer, happier and protect them selves from it?

sixpercenttruejedi · 14/08/2010 14:07

If you want to educate us Grin on the abuse cycle, start a thread about the abuse cycle. If anyone wants to be educated by you they can find you there.

YouDontWantToKnow · 14/08/2010 14:07

That is of utmost importance for women. Being able to protect one's self from abuse.

YouDontWantToKnow · 14/08/2010 14:08

There was no need for a second thread.

Enjoy.

YouDontWantToKnow · 14/08/2010 14:09

Have a most lovely day all.

YouDontWantToKnow · 14/08/2010 14:14
nasdaq · 14/08/2010 14:16

For abuse to stop, the abuser must be stopped.

Aitch · 14/08/2010 14:21

ydwtk is having a manic episode, folks, that's all. he/she may be perfectly pleasant, if misguided, under normal circumstances. but right now it's a fucking BORE.

claig · 14/08/2010 14:25

I think YDWTK is a dalek who has blown a fuse

Sakura · 14/08/2010 15:01

LOL claig!

ISNT · 14/08/2010 15:09

Grin @ dalek

sparky159 · 14/08/2010 15:49

thankyou isnt:)
yep-i agree[ignore/greyscale]and keep arguments going if need be.

Sakura-
yep i agree with you also.
well-i thought this aswell[discussions was a oppressive regime]and it did come across to me as wierd and cultlike but im not thinking this now and [hopefully]im looking forward to some interesting discussions.

ill have to look out for Lundy Bancrofts stuff-it looks interesting[if i can understand it]-thankyou Sakura:)

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 16/08/2010 19:02

Oh you are joking, the thread about derailers has been derailed?

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