Coping with Trolls and Derailers

[ElephantsAndMiasmas]

There have been some very persistent posters on here recently - some of them funny (unintentionally), and some of them not - dragging threads off track so we have to go back and explain something over and over again. I'm all for a lively debate, but there always comes a point when you realise that they are not listening at all, are on a blatant wind-up mission, or are just insulting posters with no intention of debating the original issues.

If we don't want this to happen, and bearing in mind that some people spot the pattern quicker than others, I was going to suggest that we have something like a warning word/phrase that could alert other posters to the fact that they are wasting their time. What do you think? Is this a stupid idea?

Saying "ah, a troll" just adds fuel to the fire you see. But if you were to say "I blame Princess Michael of Kent" or something, and then everyone disappears...well it might work?

So ok what do you do with a highly persistent troll who is totally determined to destroy multiple threads? Should there be a minute policy or do you think this can be dealt with thread-by-thread. Most trolls do just go away if ignored, but this one is more problematic. And ignoring is of course difficult when the gold of conversation has to be sifted out of the tsunami of crap.

I am not trolling. I am discussing my perception of the events.

Yes it's doing my head in as well. It was that other thread, now this one. I can just about cope with this one because it's related to the other thread.
BUt if it pops up all over this section refusing to engage in discussion, throwing out random unrelated words everywhere, then it is going to be a problem.

Freedom of speech and protection of freedom of expression and the right to do so.

you are stopping us from speaking to each other YDWTK. WE try to have conversations and your trolling is getting in the way of our freedom of speech.
We have been quite patient with you.
But you persist on trying to disrupt discussions and you refuse to engage with anyone's arguments
It is becoming a problem

Why are people even engaging? The only solution is to ignore and report. I don't think a message has to be directly abusive if the aim appears to be continuous disruption- that is still trolling afterall. So if we all do that, they should be removed eventually.

I am very engaged in the discussions. Very.

For instance. I am quite aware of the current discussion and the implication you placed in your statement to lead a viewer to believe I am going all over the forum throwing out random words and implying it is popping up all over the place.

Which substantiates thee attempted communication control upon the target, monitoring of the target's actions and further isolation implications.

Exactly sakura, if you get an aggressive, obsessive troll who is mad enough and has time enough to do this on every thread in the section, it could destroy it really. Who asked for this section? Could they talk to hq about the problem?

I have no control over your hands engaging in forming words on your keyboards half way around the world and moving your mouse to the post message control button.

Further character claims designed to sway the viewer in an unfounded manner, and only supported between the targeters for the purpose of supporting the targeting process.

isolation implications.

Power structure introductions for the purpose of attempting to create a psychologically threatening environment.

transition phase.

So report then?

Paired with mutually supported threats designed to control perceived rights, freedoms and impose control over the target

well I have CCF, why not?

Segregation of equality and attempts to remove equal status from the target

Hollieday, quite a few newbies who start out strident and hating end up coming round and end up staying. so you never know. But yes, I give up on this one now.
everyone asked dittany to ask, I think.
this ones a dead loss. I'm going for ignore then.

I wonder how many times this has played out on this forum and the routine smoothly executed to remove the targets based on a unified front of targeting and self supported claims based on foundations designed, presented and enacted upon by the targeters.

Further degradation of character, transitioning into psychological abuse territory in the arenas of worth, value and identity.

isolation impositions enacted upon.

Nonsensical persistant posts... I say the more who report the trolling.

It has been given plenty of time to curb the abuse.

"It has been given"

Complete transition into abuse phase.

Total objectification and dehumanizing. Psychological threats.
Projected reversal tactics.

By the book.

www.drirene.com/cyclesof.htm

Mt Fuji

Welcome to real activism.

Sistahs.

Whoever you are - YouDontWanttoKnow... it/computer/he/she ....

I say that your repetitive posts are harassing in nature and abusive.

I say that you should be reported.

I say that I have had enough of your posts.

I say that you are only posting on here because you want to continue the damage that you tried to convey, but failed miserably, on the SH discussion.

The Abuse Stage: A major verbal, emotional or physically abusive incident occurs that was instigated by the abuser. A trivial event is often used to trigger the main event. The abuser actively looks for excuses to blow up over, and may set their partner up in a no-win situation. One angry man found reason to verbally abuse his girlfriend and destroy her property because he did not like the size of the pot she was boiling eggs in. Needless to say, the pot had nothing to do with anything. This opportunist had simply received a nod from a former lover, decided to change girlfriends, and wanted an out. The victim is often left feeling hurt - and confused.

I think you are right nasdaq. This is persistent repetitive posting with no attempt to reason, talk, converse and engage with a discussion and that's trolling.