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I almost cancelled my Hysteroscopy due to Mumsnet.

87 replies

RedCheese · 20/08/2021 23:48

Last week I was booked in at the hospital to have a Hysteroscopy and I was nervous. Like most, my first reaction was to search Mumsnet for other people’s experiences of this procedure. What I found was many threads and posts saying how horrific it was. Words like a barbaric, agonising, and trauma inducing were shared, with many stating they wouldn’t do it without general anaesthetic. My nerves had now turned to terror. I phoned my best friend for reassurance, only to learn that she herself was booked in next week to have a regular smear test under sedation, due to suffering from anxiety and getting all tensed up. With the knowledge that I was having a Hysteroscopy with only a painkiller an hour before the procedure, I was seriously thinking what the Hell I was signed up for? By now I wanted to cancel my Hysteroscopy. How bad would it be to cancel... surely my gynaecology issues weren’t that serious? I phoned my 84 year old, severely religious friend and shared my fears. After listening to my worries, she asked the following question. If two women have penetrative sex with the same man, would they have exactly the same experience? After I got over my absolute shock that she used the words “penetrative Sex” in a conversation, I answered that no, of course not. One woman could be relaxed/experienced, there's different positions… there are too many entities to compare. Exactly she said, so why do you think other people's experiences of this procedure relates to you? Everybody is different and everyone’s southern region is drastically different to the next? She then went on to say that the worst reviews and forum posts are people who are upset and angry… happy people don’t always bother writing posts.

She was 100% right. I calmed myself and tried to bring logic to a situation where I’d shown none. In the past, I’ve had major surgery which took 8 months recovery time 5 times over, I’ve had 7 rounds of fertility without even blinking, as well as a c-section and this is what I panicked over. I phoned the hospital and asked to be the first in the queue that day to stop myself worrying while waiting to be seen. I decided I was going to ask the gynaecologist the following questions; can you use the smallest speculum as I’ve experienced pain when a big speculum was used. He said he wouldn’t use any speculum if that made me feel better. I asked how often he did this procedure – 5 days a week, I asked if he’d use water or air (water is better) – he said water. I asked, what if he found adhesions - he would bring me back for a spinal (I can’t have GA) and finally I asked if he needed to remove a polyp or when he did a biopsy, would it hurt – he said he’d stop if anything was getting painful and that I was in full control.

5 minutes later I was in theatre trying to relax “down there”. I was waiting for the tugging to start as fertility doctors have struggled to get a catheter in during IVF, one struggled for over an hour. The doctor stepped in front and I felt the first whoosh of water going in which was cold and strangely refreshing. As I looked to the screen waiting for the doctor to insert something, he said, there’s your womb on the screen. WHAT? I didn’t know he’d started. Where was this guy during my IVF struggles. I swear he must have had a GPS system down there as he arrived immediately at the destination and then spent the next 10 minutes looking around (no polyps thank God). Last few minutes, when he was moving to the furthest parts and taking a biopsy, it felt like a sudden period pain but not anything severe. I held my hands on my stomach and it was over in less than a minute. It was a walk in the park compared to a spinal.

When I read some of the posts relating to Hysteroscopy on Mumsnet, some offered little explanation as to the why it was difficult. Was it the speculum that hurt, the method used by the doctor or personal medical issues? I didn’t have any polyps removed so I have no experience of that but what I did have was a Hysteroscopy with a biopsy without ever having a vaginal birth which some have warned against. I should imagine that someone who has had a vaginal birth would have walked my experience of a Hysteroscopy, after all, they’ve already performed the hardest (and most amazing) procedure in the world already.

My reason for posting this is because not everyone is going to have an 84 year old friend to shock some sense into them. Female health is vitally important and I hope that no one will be reduced to my level of stupidity of almost cancelling a medical procedure because they scare themselves online. If you are going for a Hysteroscopy, ask the questions, request to be the first on the list and (the hardest part) try and relax.

Best wishes to anyone that’s booked in for this procedure, now or in the future.

OP posts:
megletthesecond · 20/08/2021 23:51

Or just let women choose anesthetic.
Relaxing is bollocks.

Ninkanink · 20/08/2021 23:52
Hmm
DemBonesDemBones · 20/08/2021 23:53

What a kind thing to do to put other women at ease. Well done op!

FelicityBeedle · 20/08/2021 23:54

Anaesthetic should absolutely be a choice, no one is denying that but lots of women can tolerate it without. I often think similar when coil fitting is described as the most horrific experience, worse than childbirth etc. For some it might be the case and they need the local anaesthetic, but for most people I know it’s uncomfortable at most

frazzledasarock · 20/08/2021 23:55

@megletthesecond

Or just let women choose anesthetic. Relaxing is bollocks.
Yes!
Airpit · 21/08/2021 00:01

Women's health needs to stop relying in anecdotes or 84 year old friends or GPs not really knowing "but in their experience...".

Women deserve stats. Frequently refreshed stats. Free from vested interests.

Airpit · 21/08/2021 00:01

On not in

Cruiser123 · 21/08/2021 00:02

The problem is you don't know at the beginning if it will be agony or a walk in the park.

PickAChew · 21/08/2021 00:03

So, are other women's unpleasant experiences of the procedure irrelevant, then? Are you better than them for being so strong?

SpringSparrow · 21/08/2021 00:04

“Strangely refreshing” ?!

I’ve had two, the first excruciating and traumatising, and the second 18 months later, on the advice of my gynaecologist, not to put myself through that again, under general anaesthetic, which was a much better experience. Women should be able to choose to have a general anaesthetic if they want one.

PickAChew · 21/08/2021 00:06

@Airpit

Women's health needs to stop relying in anecdotes or 84 year old friends or GPs not really knowing "but in their experience...".

Women deserve stats. Frequently refreshed stats. Free from vested interests.

Absolutely. Far too much of women's reproductive medicine relies on us not complain ing.

I say this as someone with a ridiculously high pain threshold.

Fluffycloudland77 · 21/08/2021 00:08

I had mine with no GA or painkiller. It was not painful.

Luckingfovely · 21/08/2021 00:10

Do you want a round of applause? Great that it went well for you, I'm sure we're all really happy for you, but do you realise how patronising you sound?

You've obviously got as far as understanding that all women are different physically, but completely missed the point that what was easy for you might not be for anyone else, and I speak with a little experience.

I would like to believe that you were sharing this honestly and meant to help... but for many others out there who have had very different experiences, it feels very tone deaf.

FlibbertyGiblets · 21/08/2021 00:15

Oh, your whoosh of water was strangely refreshing, that's nice, dear.

IvorHughJarrs · 21/08/2021 00:16

I had one and, rather like yourself, had one sudden burst of pain like period pain towards the end.
I do think everyone is different and we have to accept some will need more pain relief than others but I do also think people on sites like this and some of the menopause sites tend to whip up anxiety in others

OverTheRubicon · 21/08/2021 00:21

@Luckingfovely

Do you want a round of applause? Great that it went well for you, I'm sure we're all really happy for you, but do you realise how patronising you sound?

You've obviously got as far as understanding that all women are different physically, but completely missed the point that what was easy for you might not be for anyone else, and I speak with a little experience.

I would like to believe that you were sharing this honestly and meant to help... but for many others out there who have had very different experiences, it feels very tone deaf.

Why is it patronising? Op wasn't saying that others were foolish for feeling scared (she was too) or that others were exaggerating, just that it's not necessarily going to be horrible.

There are always going to be way more people coming online to share horrible experiences, because that's what happens when you've had trauma, not when you've had an ok but not great day.

Personally I have had 1 amazing drug free natural birth, 1 horrible, and a section that was somewhere between. But any time I try to tell people that actually I have had a great drug free birth that had less healing time than my section, there will always be a few women who jump on me to say I'm minimising experiences of others etc - but apparently my also true story of a mismanaged birth centre experience is authentic and fine. It's important for people to hear from both experiences, especially with medical treatments that can result in unnecessary death if people are frightened out of getting it done.

Boredhimtodeath · 21/08/2021 00:26

Why is OP getting stick? It is very obvious why she has posted, when looking into it she terrified herself only seeing horror stories. She isn’t bragging she is doing a kind thing trying to comfort other women and tell them it might not be as bad as they expect. She’s said she can’t have anaesthetic, not that she’s rock hard and wants praise.

Why turn someone doing something positive into a negative, is it that hard to be positive and appreciative of someone doing a nice thing?

Rosecottage888 · 21/08/2021 00:28

@Boredhimtodeath

Why is OP getting stick? It is very obvious why she has posted, when looking into it she terrified herself only seeing horror stories. She isn’t bragging she is doing a kind thing trying to comfort other women and tell them it might not be as bad as they expect. She’s said she can’t have anaesthetic, not that she’s rock hard and wants praise.

Why turn someone doing something positive into a negative, is it that hard to be positive and appreciative of someone doing a nice thing?

I was about to post the exact same thing. Thank you for sharing OP and I'm glad it all went well.
Ugzbugz · 21/08/2021 00:51

I have seen ladies on here saying coil removal is hideous, I barely felt mine come out although I hate the device that opens the vagina, but the replacement was Horrinly painful, horrible, and she said i can have valium next time and she was the kindest doctor ever so I don't have to dread it so much next time.

I gave birth with just gas and air after 48 hours and was very traumatic.

Then I have very personal issues.

So think I could say I've had good experiences with medical professionals but I would rather not experience any of it even smears.

jozipozi31 · 21/08/2021 00:54

@PickAChew

So, are other women's unpleasant experiences of the procedure irrelevant, then? Are you better than them for being so strong?
I don't think that's what the OP meant at all.

She was put off by all the bad stories and nearly didn't have it done, and wanted to come back here and say it's possible to have an ok experience. She absolutely didn't undermine others' stories.

Luckingfovely · 21/08/2021 00:58

Didn't undermine other's stories? Read the OP again. As I said before, I get that the OP may have been trying to be positive, but they also showed a complete disregard for anyone going through a similar experience differently.

Oh whoopee, I felt a gush, let's go and and have sandwiches on the beach Angry

GreyhoundG1rl · 21/08/2021 00:59

Strangely refreshing is strangely disturbing...

Obimumkinobi · 21/08/2021 01:03

This type of discussion only ever takes place in relation to procedures done to females. No man has ever said "well, I was a bit concerned when they said they were going to slice open my ballsack but I'd had a paracetamol beforehand, so I only passed out for a minute or two".
No man has ever had to be grateful that if he was in pain, the clinician would stop what they were doing.Female pain, or the possibility of it, is approached in a very cavalier manner.

I'm genuinely pleased for the OP but that doesn't help all the other women who may well end up in agony and traumatised by a procedure not going well because their experience may differ from hers. Then they can add guilt to their pain and anxiety.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 21/08/2021 01:14

This wouldn't be an issue if women were offered appropriate pain relief.

Sadsammy · 21/08/2021 10:14

There are two different types of biopsy though. The first one they do(which I guess is like a sweep) triggers a period like pain for sure but then they can do a proper actual biopsy in a targeted area. This is what women are referring to when they talk about the intense pain etc. It's very different.