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On toughness - toughest writers of all time?

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WhisperTree · 11/08/2024 16:38

With a view to adding to my TBR pile, I've been trying to think of the toughest, least sentimental female authors of all time, with an emphasis on midcentury to the present day.

The names which keep coming to mind are North Americans and Continental Europeans. I must have a blindspot for these fair isles, which must surely have their own tradition of stylistic toughness.

Help me out, please?

Who are some of the toughest, least sentimental British fiction and non-fiction writers - the ones who might be criticised as e.g. "cold", "heartless" etc because their style leaves space for the reader to feel their own feels

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kublacant · 19/09/2024 14:54

Plus another vote for Barbara Pym.

Ghilliegums · 19/09/2024 14:57

Angela carter.

Ghilliegums · 19/09/2024 14:58

Also Barbara Comyns, a touch of mistletoe. Brilliant book

Scout2016 · 19/09/2024 15:01

Ghilliegums · 19/09/2024 14:58

Also Barbara Comyns, a touch of mistletoe. Brilliant book

Oh, I just asked for the Sisters By A River for my birthday, I should maybe have gone for this instead. Spoons and Vets Daughter ones I loved.

Ghilliegums · 19/09/2024 15:16

It's one of my all time faves. Dark, funny and absolutely without sentiment

Dappy777 · 19/09/2024 19:29

Great British writers I find hard to read:

John Ruskin
Walter Pater
Henry James (American, but lived much of his life in the UK and set many of his books in England)
Virginia Woolf
Hilary Mantel
Joseph Conrad (Polish, but became a British citizen and set most of his works here)
J. G. Ballard (not stylistically difficult, but I'm always a bit lost when I read him)
Anthony Burgess (wonderful writer, and one of my favourites, but again I often feel lost – he blinds you with his prose)

WhisperTree · 12/10/2024 14:21

WhisperTree · 11/08/2024 16:38

With a view to adding to my TBR pile, I've been trying to think of the toughest, least sentimental female authors of all time, with an emphasis on midcentury to the present day.

The names which keep coming to mind are North Americans and Continental Europeans. I must have a blindspot for these fair isles, which must surely have their own tradition of stylistic toughness.

Help me out, please?

Who are some of the toughest, least sentimental British fiction and non-fiction writers - the ones who might be criticised as e.g. "cold", "heartless" etc because their style leaves space for the reader to feel their own feels

For anyone whose imagination is captured by this topic, I made a video review. Wishing you all the flow this weekend 🌊🩶

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Orangewarm · 26/11/2024 19:24

Zadie Smith? How is she tough?

WhisperTree · 27/11/2024 10:58

2nd tranche of thoughts while reading in pursuit of the toughest British & Irish women novelists of midcentury-present.

This time, Iris Murdoch's The Unicorn.

Next stop, AS Byatt's Possession.

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