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Our Mutual Friend Readalong

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Piggywaspushed · 04/08/2020 16:07

As discussed on the previous Davis Copperfield Readalong, I hope some of us are eager to start Our Mutual Friend!

This is quite a complex one to break up. As usual, Dickens published in 19 monthly instalments but this one has 4 'Books' .

It is split up as follows:

BOOK THE FIRST: THE CUP AND THE LIP
I – May 1864 (chapters 1–4);
II – June 1864 (chapters 5–7);
III – July 1864 (chapters 8–10);
IV – August 1864 (chapters 11–13);
V – September 1864 (chapters 14–17).
BOOK THE SECOND: BIRDS OF A FEATHER
VI – October 1864 (chapters 1–3);
VII – November 1864 (chapters 4–6);
VIII – December 1864 (chapters 7–10);
IX – January 1865 (chapters 11–13);
X – February 1865 (chapters 14–16).
BOOK THE THIRD: A LONG LANE
XI – March 1865 (chapters 1–4);
XII – April 1865 (chapters 5–7);
XIII – May 1865 (chapters 8–10);
XIV – June 1865 (chapters 11–14);
XV – July 1865 (chapters 15–17).
BOOK THE FOURTH: A TURNING
XVI – August 1865 (chapters 1–4);
XVII – September 1865 (chapters 5–7);
XVIII – October 1865 (chapters 8–11);
XIX-XX – November 1865 [chapters 12–17 (Chapter the Last)].

4 instalments is feasible but might be too much for those of us working/ reading other books/child or DP wrangling/ insert other reason.

Therefore, I would suggest 8 instalments, splitting each book in two somehow?

That would take us to March 2021 and then we can pretend 2020 never existed.

Up for it? Thoughts?

Looking forward to it! All usual suspects and newcomers welcome.

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SatsukiKusakabe · 01/09/2020 18:49

Yes Twemlow is a dinner guest - “part of the furniture” at every occasion but not sure quite where he fits in the social pecking order. The other guests always manage to leapfrog him in this respect, so he is extended like a dining table to accommodate them, rather than getting closer in acquaintance to the host. My favourite bit was when another dinner guest mistook him for the host, Veneering, but by the end of the evening said dinner guest was godfather to Veneering’s child, leaving him none the wiser again.

InmyOwnParticularIdiom that’s a great point about Pratchett, well observed. It’s even true of the slightly oddball metaphorical riffs and jokes, as in the above mentioned Twemlow/dining table stuff. It reminds me of when the librarian was transformed into an armchair and later on when he changed back someone said “he still looks a bit green around the antimacassar”.

SatsukiKusakabe · 01/09/2020 18:53

Grin@ piggy. I also really liked this bit where Mrs Boffin reclined on her sofa: as one who would be part of the audience if she found she could, and would go to sleep if she found she couldn’t

I identify with that.

MiddleAgedLurker · 01/09/2020 19:01

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Piggywaspushed · 01/09/2020 19:02

of course you may!!

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Indigosalt · 01/09/2020 19:20

I'm enjoying it up to now.

Agree that the Boffins are the most engaging characters so far. I already feel quite invested in them. I wonder whether Dickens is toying with us by interspersing their story with the slightly dry Veneerings shenanigans?

I always felt a bit intimidated by Dickens so tackling this in manageable chunks feels much more doable.

highlandcoo · 01/09/2020 20:46

May I join in? I read this nearly 40 years ago and enjoyed it but would love to be reminded why

Me too MAL! It was my favourite out of six or seven Dickens novels I read so I'm really enjoying the opportunity to rediscover it.

I agree with those who felt a bit flummoxed by chapter 2, especially the Analytical(?) but I'm loving Silas Wegg and the Boffins. Silas is obviously a bit of a chancer, but a really interesting character. I liked him inventing personalities for everyone in the big house near his stall. Especially "Uncle Parker" - excellent name!

Really enjoyed chapter 9 dealing with the possible "orphan swarms" and the likeable Milveys: "I doubt , Frank, if Mrs Boffin wants an orphan quite nineteen, who drives a cart and waters the roads." So funny.

Piggywaspushed · 01/09/2020 21:03

Oh yes, that was funny!

I am not sure I get Silas Wegg yet.

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SatsukiKusakabe · 01/09/2020 21:23

I did attempt the first few Chapters last year during a holiday and must say I didn’t remember any of them or get much out of it all, but enjoying it on this second pass already.

highlandcoo · 01/09/2020 21:45

Oh, and I aso liked the Lammies each being fortune-hunters and feeling completely cheesed off at ending up with someone equally poor.

It's going to be interesting to see whether they join forces to pursue making money .. and might they actually end up liking each other?

Terpsichore · 01/09/2020 22:23

Having read David Copperfield so recently, it's interesting to flip over to a much later book and see how Dickens's themes and preoccupations had changed. The humour's still there but it's already a much, much darker and more hard-bitten piece of writing. The Boffins are the 'goodies' so far, and really enjoyable, but there are far more characters on the make...people like the Veneerings - even the name damns them for their surface glitter and worthlessness - and all their awful dinner-party guests. It sounds as though Dickens had sat through far too many of those dinners himself (as I'm sure he had, by then) and knew those people all too well.

FortunaMajor · 02/09/2020 01:39

I agree about this one being darker. DC had such a naive cheerfulness about it, but this one is much more cynical about people.

I'm still at the slightly befuddled with all the characters stage, but very much enjoying the language.

MiddleAgedLurker · 03/09/2020 14:32

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HarlanWillYouStopNamingNuts · 04/09/2020 17:28

So are we reading to the end of Book 1 (chapter 17) in September? That looks doable, given that it's a shorter month.

Piggywaspushed · 04/09/2020 18:08

Yes we are!

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HarlanWillYouStopNamingNuts · 04/09/2020 19:42

Excellent, thank you!

Piggywaspushed · 27/09/2020 11:24

Just a reminder that we convene midweek for latest discussion. I have one chapter to read. Enjoying this section more as the intrigue ramps up.

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FortunaMajor · 27/09/2020 11:32

Arrgh! Too soon. Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis I haven't done my homework.

Piggywaspushed · 27/09/2020 11:35
Grin

You have a few days; it's a short section.

I expected better of you, fortuna

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FortunaMajor · 27/09/2020 11:46

I am suitably chastised.

All my library audiobook holds came round at once. I'm drowning in books on a deadline.

InMyOwnParticularIdiom · 27/09/2020 12:21

Finished my pages this am while DD was watching Bob the Builder Halo

Piggywaspushed · 27/09/2020 12:29
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Piggywaspushed · 01/10/2020 08:45

Morning All!

I will be checking in later on today as am at work!

Feel free to chat away and I'll be back to discuss Podsnappery!

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ChessieFL · 01/10/2020 12:56

Has anyone else still not got a clue what’s going on?! Every chapter seems to be about a different group of people without much clue as to what brings them all together so I’m finding it really hard to follow. I’m enjoying individual bits of it, mainly when the Boffins turn up, but struggling with the story as a whole.

Anyone else or is it just me being a bit dim?

Terpsichore · 01/10/2020 14:15

To be honest I think it does help to have read it before, Chessie! Grin I'm remembering all the time how things slot into place, but first time round I recall feeling pretty much in the impenetrable dark until quite a late stage.

I'm still in the camp of the cheerleaders for this book, though. I love the darkness and bleakness of it. All of Dickens as a world-weary, exhausted, guilt-ridden, cynical warrior heading towards the end of his life is in here. He'd abandoned his wife, broken with friends, seen his children disperse; the youthful joy of David Copperfield was a far-distant memory.

This is a book about secrecy and shadows and guilt and ghosts. Intimately personal to him, like DC but through a dark mirror.

BadSpellaSpellaSpella · 01/10/2020 15:30

Has anyone else still not got a clue what’s going on?! Every chapter seems to be about a different group of people without much clue as to what brings them all together so I’m finding it really hard to follow. I’m enjoying individual bits of it, mainly when the Boffins turn up, but struggling with the story as a whole.

No im with you, and I've read a few dickens before but im finding it very hard to keep track of what the hells going on.

I brought a second hand copy as I think that might help (was reading it on the kindle) and the copy I got is a bbc mini series tie in book. So for some reason in the middle of the book are a few pages of glossy pages of the characters from the tv version