The Night is Dark and Full of Terrors - GoT chat # 1

[WinterIsComing]

following on from...

It is vague enough that only real fans will get it.

cut the wheat from the chaff and all that.

Valar Dohaeris

that they do. But i was a lady once, the idea of servitude appals me

there is a forum somewhere that is dedicated to the dothraki language. I prefer high valeryian.

indeed. The Dothraki is a very animalistic and tribal tongue. Great in a Khal but not really what you want for a dinner table.

The High Valyrian is just so much more musical and classy

totally agree. what do you make of Maggy's prophesy?

Well im not convinced that the "younger more beautiful queen" is Maraery Tyrell.
Cersei seems convinced because she is unaware of Daednerys' existence. but Maegaery is only every really described as pretty, whereas Cersei is always Beautiful.

Daenerys is forever having her beauty described in great detail.

plus cersei thinks that Valonqar is Tyrion, since it means little brother in HV, But Im plumping with the majority and going for Jaime.

loving that name valar!

not confused as such but never knew there were two, so if i'm on a thread i may forget about the other one and just group them together as lissie/lizzy lou

well jaime has betrayed her now hasn't he? he didn't come when she asked for help, going by the end of the last book cersei is in trouble.

i think the beautiful queen is daenerys also.

but i do have a leetle teeny tiny conspiracy theory of my own.

Arya.

She is in the house of the faceless men. well as a junior apprentice surely that would make her a "little brother"
She has plenty of reason to hate cersei, she is on her prayer list after all.

and i can't imagine why she would be left to just join the order of the faceless man and be forgotten about. She is the daughter of Ned Stark. she can't just becomea member of a religious order.

So i think that the Kind old man is training her for a specific mission....of which i think it is to kill cersei.

spoiler alert

i read on wiki that they have aegon alive! will he and dany cross paths i wonder? oooh its all too much!

no, i don't believe arya will stay where she is at all! your theory does make sense!

that is if cersei is still alive to kill....

but you've read DWD haven't you so that must mean she is... or is there no cersei in DWD?

errm - well. All i will say is that all some will be revealed in DWD

damn it i need that book!

of course once i get it you won't see me for 3/4 days....

I actually rationed myself to two chapters a day so as to savour it for as long as i could, a la Charlie Bucket.

I have a desperate desire to re read it but i am refusing to. I will wait a while at least. it may be a long long time until we get Winds of winter and i need to make it last

I think the "other, more beautiful" is sansa. She has been at the heart of all cersei's problems so far (joff's death, jaime is looking for her rather than helping his sister, wasn't she involved with tyrions decision to send myrcella to dorne too?) And she has a tangible link to cersei, their fates are entwined. Dany doesn't even know she exists.

did you manage to stick to that valar? my life literally stops, i don't cook or clean more than the minimum possible, dd1 watches tv after school until bed or plays with friends, dd2 sits with her until she needs feeding and even then i pull the bottle out of her mouth everytime i need a spare hand to turn a page, I begrudge reading dd1 her bedtime story (although i do it of course).... i'm a terrible mother aren't I?

hmm, but can sansa ever be a queen? what claim would she have to the throne? she could possibly be queen of the north if petyr's ideas for her work out.

Dany, I'm like you. I absorb books. Am cooking dinner now with minute on my twatphone and GoT on my kindle.

She could marry another contender to the throne, but littlefingers plans for her are huge, I doubt he will stop at just warden of the east, and the north. He plays the game of thrones better than anyone!

She could marry another contender to the throne, but littlefingers plans for her are huge, I doubt he will stop at just warden of the east, and the north. He plays the game of thrones better than anyone!

Well i work full time so that saves me a bit.
but yes ordinarily i can't wait. I would get the train home for work for a week rather than drive just so i could read on the way home.

i knew that i would read it so fast that it would be gone in a couple of days and it would all be over. I wanted to draw it out as long as possible.

though i did have to literally tear it out of my own hands sometimes.

See I can't see littlefingers plan with Sansa working out. The kingslayer is much accursed and she is still in the frame for killing Joff. Would the north really just go "ooh she's not alayne after all hurrah for Queen Sansa"? Im noit sure.

But i like the idea of the two paths being so closely entwined, she and cersei

i might start reading from the begginning again while i'm waiting to buy DWD

Would they not see it as justice for the red wedding? Imo, it would only make her more popular!

Would they not see it as justice for the red wedding? Imo, it would only make her more popular!