i am a fat hideous frump. i need a medical type cure.

[DisasterArea]

am considering going to the drs. am v fat. lifestyle makes it impossible to eat normal food at normal times. i am also partial to cake and cheese and wine. although i really don't eat loads of crap.
i don't do real exercise. again lifestyle and knackeredness is difficult and am really too fat to do much.
don't lecture me. i am not stupid.
does anyone have any experience of what to say to GP? what to start with? who to ask to be referred to?

what do you want?

slimming tablets?

surgery?

ok how big are you?

There is lots of support on this thread but we do need details and there are lots of MNetters in a similare position.

Yes. Go to gp and say that you need help. Say that you have tried and tried to diet, but fail every time and every time you feel worse about yourself. Tell gp that your size makes exercise painful so you feel trapped. Say that you know that it is your fault, you are not trying to avoid taking responsibility but that you can't go back in time and prevent yourself from being in this situation, and you need help please.

You will probably be referred to a dietician in the first instance.

You have to be willing to try, to not close down your mind and say that you cannot do it, and continue to eat the way you do. You have to try to help yourself. You have to be SEEN to be open to try to change.

There is help out there, xenical, reductil, surgery, but you have to be open and be seen to be trying.

I am on xenical atm and am going to have surgery (gastric sleeve) so I know what I am talking about!!!!

HI DA! I have started a thread myself today. I doubt you're as big as me...think there was a poll once and i turned out to be the biggest mumsnetter...!We should perhaps work together?

No, you are not the biggest MNer. I have that 'honour'.

hecate...i'm 18stone6 and 5ft 1!!!

oooh competition!!!!!

I beat you by over 10 stone, although I am an inch taller.

Oh the humiliation.

how are you finding the Xenica hecate? I may have to resort to it in the absence of redcutiland accomplia but am slightly dubious about whether it will work and how I manage job and toddler with the side effects if they are bad...

There are no side effects IF you don't eat stuff you shouldn't!!!!

If you eat fatty stuff, then you will have foul wind, terrible stomach ache and seepage and diahorrea. And it is yellowish and fatty and it's like an oil slick in the loo!

Oh waaaaaaaay tmi!

But it does work.

If you don't want the side effects, then you don't eat the stuff that gives you the side effects - you learn the hard way!!

oh bollocks. so it like a physical conscience... what keeps you taking it when you are desparate for something you shouldn;t have (IYKWIM) I suppose it builds up so stopping taking it wouldn't work quickly

I don't know. I have never not taken it.

I feel like at least I will be getting rid of 30% of the crap I have eaten.

Sometimes if I have binged, I take 2 or 3. I don't know if that actually makes you expel more, but it eases my guilt.

It's a BAD BAD thing to do and I do not recommend it!!

right. admission time and i haven't even name changed.
am 5 feet 7 and a half.
i weigh exactly 16 stones.
am size 20
yes not hugely huge. not discovery channel documentary huge but uncomfortably and unhealthily huge.
DD1 asked to go swimming earlier.
i told her to find a friend to go with her because i can't/won't go with her.
things must change.
when young i used to run. can't no as wobble. people laugh and it hurts my knees.
won't swim as to disgusting.
do walk.
work full time. crap shifts.
am nurse so know about health stuff.
also know dietitians.
am fat. must change,

oh hecate...i really think me and you should get together on this and support each other.don't you?

also is dark and grammar suffering. TOO

Hi disasterarea! (i posted on your thread earlier). Right,the three of us....we need to get this sorted don't we....!

yes. I set up a yahoo group (but haven't been near it since before I went on holiday!) it is closed, invite only, but if you are regular mner I can invite you, is nice and private. it's here but it's closed you can email mud24 at hotmail dot co dot uk for an invite.

or you can email me to chat together if you like!

think i need to see gp this week.
am also making concerted effort starting tomorrow to cut out cheese, wine, fat and crap from my diet.
evenings when i am at home are my downfall.
get the DDs and dh to bed then crack open the wine and make a sandwich.
have started kitting this weekend to distract me. can only do straight lines though.

aw. that is really nice hecate. thanks.
may actually do that.

Do you know what...I refused to go swimming with kids for years.Then, we had an incident with dd2 who nearly drowned on a holiday and I decided I was going to teach them all.Took me another 18months to 2 years before I plucked up the courage.Started going to baths every Sunday morning...dragged reluctant hubbie along too (he's a skinny bugger though).Kids can all swim now thankfully.Went on a holiday with a load of mates earlier this year...and their hubbies.All skinny.I was the only one who got in the pool/sea with the kids...well the blokes did eventually but not the girls.Knew the kids were going to rib me about my weight etc. but strangely enough...after the initial response..which wasn't as bad as i'd expected actually...all the kids/teens etc. were bothered about was that I had to play "tag" with them everyday.Don't know what was said behind my back...y'know what...I don't care.As Dawn French said in an interview the other day,I can't waste my time worrying about what other people think.It's true.I can't.of course i want to lose weight...for my kids if nothing else...but I absolutely love my swimming on a Sunday morning now....I can't run;can walk slowly....but CAN swim without getting out of breath....Take the plunge...you'll enjoy it.

DisasterArea - I really want to hug you cos what you just decribed above doesn't make me think you are v fat.

do one thing at a time.

For example, stop buying cheese. Get used to not having that before you change everything else. I think making gradual life changes has a higher chance of success than feeling like you are going without everything all at once, iyswim.

I speak as someone who knows everything there is to know about dieting and healthy eating and general sensibleness, yet is the size of a house and has been forced to turn to surgery.

So you may not want to listen to anything I have to say on the subject.

That is fab advice eighteen.

God you sound like me DisasterArea - I'm 5ft 7in and nudging 17 stone, size 18/20.

I know exactly how you feel and I am contemplating the docs myself.