i am a fat hideous frump. i need a medical type cure.

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am considering going to the drs. am v fat. lifestyle makes it impossible to eat normal food at normal times. i am also partial to cake and cheese and wine. although i really don't eat loads of crap.
i don't do real exercise. again lifestyle and knackeredness is difficult and am really too fat to do much.
don't lecture me. i am not stupid.
does anyone have any experience of what to say to GP? what to start with? who to ask to be referred to?

hecate,how come everyone who's "fat" eats cheese and has loads of milk in their coffee/tea etc?
I hate cheese...always have and I very,very rarely drink milk...So where am I going wrong? Mind you, I drink (alcohol) probably far too often.(Crisps with wine are my absolute downfall!) Plus,hubbie does our cooking when he's home...i'm sure he deliberately keeps me fat so I can't run away!!!(i've gotta blame someone!)

That is so true hecate. Disasterarea could you not try to buy in a load of fruit like raspberries etc instead of cheese(assuming you like fruit) and when you feel hungry pick at them because if you dont have cheese - they're the next option? Last night I was on a sweetie binge and ate two bananas and it worked, it actually stopped me from eating the biscuits.

tomorrow morning i may be calling for help when the fridge is talking to me.
am a bit determined that i have to do something.
hecate i know i really do.
am a nurse - i know i am heading for a heart attack but do you think i can do something about it?
i know how many calories there are in a custard cream. how it feels after a week on the slimfast. how good a creamy cake tastes. what i should eat when i should eat it vs what i do eat when i do. this is why i have just admitted to the whole world what i look like.
eighteen. i love to swim in the sea. is the only place i do - as long asnobdy is looking. good for you though. your holiday sounds really good.

I only said cheese because she said cheese! I encounter problems because everyone thinks I eat my bodyweight in chocs and cake every day and they will NOT believe me when I say I don't. So I have stopped even trying to tell the truth and just let them think I eat all day every day.

When the truth is I miss breakfast, mostly miss lunch, and eat waaaay too much in the evenings and I'm a carbaholic, not a chocoholic!

Sorry for butting in but can I ask, since we are all in the same boat, how do you all sleep?

I keep reading about how lack of sleep leads to obesity and I know my sleep pattern has been completely messed up since having children, particularly since DS2 when I have put on most of my weight. I probably don't sleep more than 4 hours most nights and anything less than 6 is supposed to have a detrimental affect on your weight. But I have got myself in a rut and don't go to bed. Madness - maybe it is a shrink I need not a doctor!

Hecate, I am the same - often miss breakfast, usually eat a tiny sandwich just before school pick up time and then pig out all evening.

Sleep is a problem for me, I barely slept for 2 years!! Now I have a special bed from social services, that lifts at the feet and head. I have a bi-pap because I have respiratory depression (not breathing enough, leading to build up of carbon dioxide). Sleep problems have definitely made my problems worse. There is a chemical/hormone/something that is produced at night, if you don't get enough good sleep, you lack it and it can cause weight gain. It's not an excuse of course, but it certainly makes a bad situation worse.

evenings are awful for me...allday i am thinking about what i will eat when my children have gone to bed.... and cant wait for them to sleep so i can start my binge.

I had eaten so well all week soup for lunch etc, and lost 7pounds, but this weekend have put it all back on again

and i loved the feeling of the loss...

I know that feeling. I plan binges. I can't wait to be alone. Partly why I get on here so much, while I am engrossed in this, it keeps me away from the bread!!

There's this devil in you that says things like "just this once, start tomorrow, one more won't hurt you, you know you can do it - you've been good all week, you are so big already, one day won't matter...."

The ramblings of a true addict.

hecate what is a carbaholic?

someone who is totally addicted to carbs. (bread etc.)

sleep fine. DDs are old enough that they do sleep all night now. however DD2 was 6 before she slept all night. can i blame her?
i do work crap shifts though. i do think my body never knows when its next meal is coming.
evenings are also a problem. boredom/habit
think i do need a shrink as well as a dr. have huge ishoos.

Right well...here goes...I go to bed late and get up early.Probably have about x 5 hours of sleep per night.
I don't eat chocolate and sweets much..unless i'm due on when i seem to crave them.
I LOVE pasties,pies,bread etc.
and I too "plan"my foodfests. When the kids are in bed, I crack open a bottle and drink...and drink until i'm "STARVING" and then I raid the fridge and cupboards for crisps and stodge etc.THAT'S WHY I'M FAT!!!!

Hi guys. Don't know what kind of solution you are looking for, but I can vouch for the LighterLife programme. It totally changed my life.

You have to get your GP to sign you on to it, and you have to have a regular monthly blood pressure check. The best think about it for me, by far, was the counselling that went along with it.

The biggest realisation for me was that losing the weight was only half of the journey. It would be pointless without getting an understanding of why I over ate in the first place, and learning new ways of thinking and behaving around food.

I was/am very lucky with my counsellor, who is excellent. She was 22 stone 5 years ago, and has stayed a size 14 now for 3 years. I'm one year on now from my weight loss, and whilst it has been TOUGH, I manage to stay fluctuating within half a stone of my ideal weight, and I still go to my management group every week to get my head back in the game, to quote HSM .

It's hardcore, but for good reason, and once you're into it, it's incredibly liberating. I felt free from being enslaved to food for the first time in my life.

Have you guys come across it before?

have emailed u about your group hecate
there are pics of me on my profile, at 25st and now

Thanks hecate. Would lager could come under carbs? Because that is my addiction and as eighteen says once I am starving I stuff myself. Yet come morning - I don't eat until 2pm and the cycle begins again.

sycamoretree

i feel that would be a great one for me as i am a bit all or nothing kind of girl...ie once i start i cant stop.... so if i didnt start then i may have an answer

yep, lager is quite high carb and high calorie too zahrah :/

Cheeky - yes, it's based on an addiction treatment model. They say if you are addicted to drugs or alcohol, you can remove them from your life, and as long as you don't touch them again, you should be ok. It was also devised by a group of overweight people who felt there was nothing out there for them. In the words of my counsellor "we all know we should eat some cottage cheese and a lettuce leaf if we want to lose weight. We are not stupid, we are intelligent women. So you have to ask yourself, why CAN'T we, or DON'T we do it?" The diet definitely answered that for me.

If you're addicted to food, you are screwed because you must eat to live, you can't remove it from your life.

So this plan aims to remove conventional food from your diet, so you can look around your life without the clutter of food and see what it is that is driving you to eat. It can be extremely surprising, but I have never felt as at home as I was in a room full of women like me, who all had the same screwed up ideas and logic about eating and dieting. It really has been revelatory.

Are you aware of what it consists of?

Well...I believe it's a good diet...until you stop.
Plus,my friend went on this.She wasn't that big really but she drank alot of beer at night etc.so felt very bloated all the time.
She looks good at the moment but her problem is that she can't stop losing weight...which we all could say is a good thing!...but to a very dangerous level.She's had to go through loads of tests etc.And she's feeling really poorly now.So,no, I don't believe in this one.Sorry.

i ave just started The idiot proof diet by india knight which is high protein, low carb

i have lost 10lbs in 2 weeks, kicked cafffine, sugar,alochol and carb addiction and feel amazin

i am an all or nothing kind of girl and its changed my life

thankyou for that info....

how much weight did you lose?

do you feel so much better and in control around food

I want to be satisfied after one biscuit, not a packet

sorry...i was talking about the lighterlife one.

i'm an all or nothing girl.
tell me more......

i need to loose 4 stone
avelost 10 lbs in 14 days
there are 3 stages and eventually youll be eating good carbs 2x a week

google it, there is a wonderful forum as well which i love

have no cravins in the evenin which was always my downfall

Sorry i am so slow this evenin, keyboard broken

Well, all I can say is LighterLife has worked for me - it's a shame your friend has traded one kind of addiction for another - sounds like she got hooked on losing weight - she can't still be on the diet though I don't think, as they don't allow you packs once you are at a healthy BMI.

I think that whole idea of UNTIL YOU STOP is interesting, because through the counselling, I have learned that it never stops, because you should always be aware of what you are eating.

Also, eighteen, just because it would be such a shame to shut the door on something just based on that one person you are aware of, do you know for sure she went through the management programme, as well as the weight loss programme? We were told to put a bet on putting all the weight back on if we didn't attend management after losing the weight. It's an incredibly strict 12 week plan based on low GI diet to reintroduce normal food back into the diet. Once you've done that, they encourage you to keep going weekly for counselling. So one year on, I am still going to my weekly group.

I lost 4 stone. Ok, I know it's not as much as some of you, but I was still very overweight, unwell, unable to play properly with my kids, and extremely depressed etc. You can't go on this plan unless you have at least 3 stone plus to lose.

It may not be for everyone, but you know when you find something that just utterly changed your life for the better? I guess I do feel pretty evangelical about it