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Why are the scales not shifting despite loads of cardio exercise???

279 replies

PussinJimmyChoos · 02/06/2008 19:59

Been doing a 30 min Tae Bo DVD 4/5 times a week, plus press ups and weights....although I've lost inches, clothes feel better etc. The scales are not budging!!

When can I expect to see something? I am not dieting but I have drastically reduced my junk intake and don't smoke or drink

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zippitippitoes · 04/06/2008 09:52

nan bread is another thing which has astomnishing number of calories

something like 2000 in one of those i think i know its a lot especially if you eat a whole one and your indian meal

Piffle · 04/06/2008 09:54

us dietetics recommend 40gms a day for women! Protein that is.
nut butters, eggs, lentils....

zippitippitoes · 04/06/2008 09:54

you dont need as much protein as you think

cereals all have some protein as in cereal products generally not just brekfast

milk yougurt pulses etc

you dont need huge amounts of protein

slices of meat rather than hunks

cottage cheese seeds

ChopsTheDuck · 04/06/2008 09:55

hmm I eat tons of lentils.

I have chapatis with indian food, they a lot better than naan. But then don't have rice as well. And make currys with lentils. Had sprouted mung last night, was lovely.

ChopsTheDuck · 04/06/2008 09:56

but isn't protein essential to building muscle?

Piffle · 04/06/2008 09:57

I know zippi. Moderation is key to stabilizing weight loss.
dp is overweight comes ip borderline obese on bmi he dips between the 2
exercise hard for him as he works long hours. But trying to get him to cut down aaarghhh
I supply healthy cereals. Cook very healthy meals.
his 2-3 cans of beer few nights a week, the weekly curry and he also has staff restaurant where he says he just buys sandwich and fruit
I cannot make him do itthough I wish he would try harder
he carries his weight well as he is stocky but...

zippitippitoes · 04/06/2008 09:59

yes i dont have bread and rice just one or the other

if you read the food labels in the supremarket re calories it makes fascinating reading

sandwiches in packets are another extraordinary high calorie thing

and just by choosing a different sandwich you can halve the amount of enrgy and of course if you make your own then you can lower that again

having said all this i dont think the measurements given on packets are always that accurate but they do give you a broad idea

many is the happy day i have walked to the supermarket spent 20 minutes reading the food labels on the cakes and puddings and then thought it isnt worth it and bought a paper instead

this is a ver self satisfying activity

zippitippitoes · 04/06/2008 10:00

you do need protein but we overestimate how much

assuming you arent planning on geting in the boxing ring

ChopsTheDuck · 04/06/2008 10:02

lol zippi!

I jsut can't face it, eating a cake that is about 400 calories when I've slogged my guts out down the gym in the morning.

Wine is my biggest downfall.

piffle, can't you pack a lunch for him?

zippitippitoes · 04/06/2008 10:02

and protein doesnt need to equal meat

but it is a matter of finding a pattern of eating which you like

i am happy with mine

i think as well if your partner doesnt want the same foods then you have to either ignore them and do your own thing or else eat a lot less than you give them make some substitutions

ChopsTheDuck · 04/06/2008 10:04

at the thought of me in a boxing ring. I don't want to build too much, I'm too tall for it for one thing. I do dream of being toned and athlectic looking though! I will prob have a PT session again once I've got to my target weight and talk to them.

zippitippitoes · 04/06/2008 10:07

read the sports nutrition book it is interesting

zippitippitoes · 04/06/2008 10:09

here sports nutrition but if you are interested in exercise and food etc it is a good read

zippitippitoes · 04/06/2008 10:10

im afraid i am one of those researcher type people who gets a bit interested in anything i start doing lol

zippitippitoes · 04/06/2008 10:13

i hope i dont sound too awful

i made a big commitment to changing my lifestyle and getting fit before i popped my clogs

i was also drinking the nightly wine too

and i gave that up ciompletely for a year

my blood pressure wetn from 140 over 90 to 110 over over 70 too

zippitippitoes · 04/06/2008 10:14

i got dumped by my long term partner tho so it wasnt all good..and i had to then continue regardless

ChopsTheDuck · 04/06/2008 10:16

gave up wine for a year Well done, I couldn't do that. I'm trying to restrict it to weekends, but I do like a glass midweek when the kids have been driving me up the wall and I need to unwind.

I think I'm going to get that book. Are the eating plans good?

zippitippitoes · 04/06/2008 10:23

yes well i was drinking a lot and doing no exercise at all

and going to be 50

i am going to climbing lessons starting next week

and i went scuba diving last september

and on a 22 mile country walk at easter

i cant understand how people manage to run tho i havent tried that

i didnt really follow the plans as such but i would definitely say it is an excellent book with loads of info and very readable

and very strong credentials

you will learn a lot from it

43Today · 04/06/2008 10:24

I think Puss that you really should ignore the scales, like others have said. Surely the point of the diet/exercise is to look better and be healthier? So if your clothes fit better (ie you are getting slimmer) who cares about what the scales read? It's not as if we go round with 12stone or whatever printed on our forehead for all to see..

Just carry on the good work and you will definitely improve. And by the way, don't do lower intensity for longer, if your time commitments mean you have to do 30 mins high intensity that is fine. Your cardio vascular health will improve much more quickly by working at moderate to high intensity than chugging along at 'fat-burning' level. Working at a high intensity burns more calories than more moderate training, so you still burn more fat overall even though as a proportion of all calories used it may be lower..

Re exercise helping weight loss, I am a trainee Personal Trainer and for one bit of my course i had to write a programme and train a friend of mine. In 3 months she went from 18st to 14st 8lbs, with NO dieting. She improved her diet (ie healthy eating) and cut out some treats, and reduced portion sizes, but she didn't follow any crazy low cal thing at all. She exercised 4 times a week for about an hour at a time, 40 mins cardio, mostly running, and some resistance training. I know this is anecdotal and not scientific, but it is my experience!

zippitippitoes · 04/06/2008 10:26

i am pleased i did it when i did tho as i think i would struggle to get the motivation now if i was starting but it is very rewarding and i am sure completely changed my life

i am considering travelling to south america some time in the next couple of years and that is a lot to do with what i managed so far

and it has given me the strength to cope with splitting up

Piffle · 04/06/2008 11:43

power to you zippi!
now packing dp a lunch....
I would feel like his mother although I have offered to do chunky raw salad with boiled egg or tuna roast chicken whatever.
but he declines to accept saying he will do it... But never does!

DLeeds · 04/06/2008 12:41

Zippi

On your veg, fruit and protein diet - can I ask what did you have for breakfast?

This sounds a reasonable 'non-diet' diet to follow!

MsDemeanor · 04/06/2008 12:50

Cote, don't argue with me, argue with the studies! As a weight loss tool exercise is really, really ineffective. This doesn't mean it won't prevent cancer, help you live longer, give you energy, lift your mood, make you and become disabled with old age, make you look better and feel firmer, make you more able to run around with your kids, have thicker firmer skin, ward off diabetes and a zillion other absolutely vital benefits that really mean you are a bit mad not to do anything. It just won't, on its own, substantially shift the numbers on the scale.

Piffle · 04/06/2008 13:33

hmmmm < sceptical>
I'm sure its like many statistics and studies. Too many different aspects to test.
someone who eats well has steady weight and does no exercise... Then starts doing exercise.
weight does come off.
I saw that with my own eyes.
however the power of diet is far more than the power of exercise imho but together they work very well

dinny · 04/06/2008 14:04

hello, all

thinking about exercise - am sure the benefits are obviously cardiovascular etc but also that it lifts your mood AND your self-esteem

I really love running and I really love yoga, I suppose that's why they are the two things I do regularly as I love the way they make me feel

re diet, why don't you do WW Online as it will give you an idea of portion control. for instance, I had a scone with jam out at a cafe this morning for breakfast and it is SIX POINTS (am doing 18 points a day)

so, OK as a breakfast but not as a snack!!