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Weight loss chat

A space to talk openly about weight loss journeys and challenges. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Please only reply if you're female and closer to 50 than 40

612 replies

IWillSurviveHeyHey · 29/12/2017 09:26

Because how in the name of the holy cheeses does one loose weight at the age of 48, when nothing that used to work in the past, works anymore?

I am reasonably active and don't overeat although admittedly I do drink alcohol and have a weakness for sweets. This was never an issue before but clearly it is now. Simple I hear you say, stop drinking alcohol and eating sweets. But I have. And whist in the past I would have started noticing some change after a couple of weeks, nothing moves at the moment. In fact, I am just getting bigger and bigger.

I have extremely large thighs and I am only short so I feel really uncomfortable within myself. My only saving grace is that I don't have a fat belly.

I am a bit sick of being hungry pretty much all the time and still, it seems I need to accept that I've gone from a size 10 to a size 12 in the space of a year and I've been hungry for the most part. Well I don't want to accept that. I need to go back to a size 10 or by the end of 2018 I'll be a size 14.

Please help me.

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YearOfYouRemember · 19/01/2018 19:59

I think I'll look at 5:2 as well.

ppeatfruit · 19/01/2018 21:42

pontious If you pay attention to your meal and chew slowly really enjoying it. You fill up much better. I have never calorie counted and lost a lot more than you doing this!.

If you normally throw your food down your neck standing up or in front of a screen it doesn't help the digestive process properly.

pontiouspilates · 19/01/2018 22:19

Ppeatfruit, I don't usually stare at a screen when eating; we are a family that eats together at the table. However, I am a super fast eater and always finish first - I'm going to make a real effort to slow down and chew more!

ppeatfruit · 20/01/2018 10:00

It works pontious ! It's the Paul Mackenna way of eating. Well it's from the Edwardian days actually (they said chew each mouthful for 30 - 40times!) but he borrowed it.

pontiouspilates · 20/01/2018 10:20

Ppeafruit have you done the Paul McKenna 'I Can Make You Thin'? I was looking at the app the other day and thought that I might give it a try

EBearhug · 20/01/2018 16:13

Not being organised enough to get round to eating doesn't actually count as 5:2, does it? Smile

teta · 21/01/2018 08:59

Can I join in?
I’m 53 and need to lose at least 3 stone.I’ve already lost over 7 pounds I think.But didn’t weigh myself at the start for fear of demoralising myself ( 27th of December). I’ve cut out alcohol during the week and try not to eat until lunch time. I’m also going to have some Apple cider vinegar every day mixed in with water and Stevia.I already eat loads of vegetables and find myself eating a lot more fruit now for my sugar cravings.
The discussion about Carbs being bad for you is interesting.I developed Glucose Intolerance when I was pregnant with twins and have a very high chance of developing Diabetes. So I try have some healthy protein and fat with my carbs .So for example I have something brown toast with smashed advocado and poached eggs.Last weekend I had a crumpet with jam as a treat and felt really shaky with low blood sugar 3 hours later.Not everyone would react like that though but diabetes and glucose intolerance is becoming more common.Especially as kids diets are often very carb-heavy.
However I still enjoy rice , but I do have brown rice mixed with Quinoa often to reduce the glycaemic Index rather than white rice 😊.

OliviaD68 · 21/01/2018 10:37

@teta

When you say 'glucose intolerance' do you mean 'insulin resistance'? Have you heard this term used in your case by doctors?

If you are 'insulin resistant', you should remove carbs from your diet immediately.

OliviaD68 · 21/01/2018 10:49

@teta

Know that mixing carbs and fats in a meal makes the carbs much worse than on their own. I can describe the technical interplay of hormones if you'd like, but it is a bit involved.

OliviaD68 · 21/01/2018 10:49

@teta

Know that mixing carbs and fats in a meal makes the carbs much worse than on their own. I can describe the technical interplay of hormones if you'd like, but it is a bit involved.

ohfortuna · 21/01/2018 11:27

Oh here we go again the dogmatic Dr Olivia 😒

MagnifyingGlassSearch · 21/01/2018 11:36

Please stop fighting. This thread is proving to be a godsend for me at this time in my life.

ppeatfruit · 21/01/2018 11:38

Yes pontious I still do it (it's for life as far as I'm concerned!) It addresses the emotional side of eating too which is very helpful.

I don't eat after 7.30. pm. I'll have a nice hot drink if I feel the need! Which is my version of the IF thingy (intermittent fasting) often I'm not hungry till gone 10am. That's not strictly PaulMc. but then I like to be flexible.

BIWI · 21/01/2018 11:39

I agree, @PeaceLoveAndCandy. It's really tedious seeing you @ohfortuna and @OliviaD68 continually spatting with each other.

You can have different views and/or argue your points without needing to be so sneery and unpleasant to each other.

ohfortuna · 21/01/2018 11:44

Ok then folks crack on it's no skin off my nose

OliviaD68 · 21/01/2018 12:20

I agree.

I'm happy - for those that are interested - to provide evidence of what I write. Most seem disinterested however. Can't say I would blame anyone; it's dry stuff.

BIWI · 21/01/2018 12:23

No - lots of us are interested! It's the sniping and arguing with each other that's tedious.

OliviaD68 · 21/01/2018 12:28

Agree ...

In any case, I looked up glucose intolerance and it seems to be a precursor to insulin resistance, itself a precursor to DT2.

It's a slippery slope but definitely reversible.

Happy to explain if there is interest, otherwise I'll just hold off ...

TalkinPeace · 21/01/2018 12:31

otherwise I'll just hold off ... yes please

BIWI · 21/01/2018 12:41

Why hold off? If you have information, just post it! @TalkinPeace, why don't you want the science posted on this thread? I would have thought you would be interested.

ppeatfruit · 21/01/2018 12:41

Without the spatting Grin there is a very interesting way of eating (also old fashioned, but IMO and E there's nothing wrong with that!) It's the Hay Diet which is basically just not mixing carbs and protein at the same meal!

It cures IBS and other health problems. It is a bit extreme. I've got a good book called Wheat Belly by William Davis MD and he's got good recipes for no carb wraps etc. So there are ways !

TalkinPeace · 21/01/2018 12:59

BIWI
Olivia has already posted her version of the science at least once on the thread
and once she stated that fruit and rice cause diabetes I got rather bored of her blinkered views.

Obestity in the west comes down to quantity of food
and everybody needs to find the way that works for them to manage it.
Dogmatically saying that one type of food is bad does nobody any good.
Its about finding a new balance for each individual.

That is why I like 5:2
WHAT you eat is up to you. HOW you eat is moderated in a time based manner.
Beyond that its all a journey.

OliviaD68 · 21/01/2018 13:00

@BIWI

I'll keep it simple.

The normal way carbs and proteins are processed is they are converted to glucose (proteins do this via gluconeogenesis in excess of what is needed for amino acids). Glucose enters the blood and raises blood glucose levels from their normal level. Fats do not typically convert to glucose - they can, but in other circumstances.

In any case, the pancreas then produces insulin to transport the glucose to the cells to nourish them. The cells accept the glucose which causes blood glucose levels to drop back to normal. Sometimes blood glucose levels will drop too far (hypoglycemia) causing light headedness.

Now some bad things can happen if one eats carbs (or proteins) in excess. It is different for each individual threshold-wise but generally true for all.

Cells can become tired of the insulin (again, in excess) and become 'resistant' to opening themselves up to the insulin and therefore the glucose. This causes the pancreas to produce more insulin because blood glucose is not coming down. The cells are still not being nourished so the fat cells begin accepting the glucose through a conversion process of glucose to lipids. And thus begins the vicious cycle of insulin resistance: fat storage, inadequate nutrient absorption by the cells, overworked pancreas, need to eat again etc.

My understanding of glucose intolerance is as follows:

  • cells are somewhat resistant to insulin because it's early on in process of causing the damage
  • pancreas overproduces insulin
  • eventually there is absorption of nutrients by the cells
  • blood glucose tanks leading to hypoglycemia

Taken to an extreme, the pancreas is so overworked it can't produce enough insulin ... then we are in Diabetes 2. Need to supplement with shots of insulin to get the nutrients to the cells. Still in a stage where there is insulin resistance and significant fat storage.

OliviaD68 · 21/01/2018 13:03

@TalkinPeace

I never said rice and fruit cause diabetes ... That's an oversimplification. Only that rice and fruit (and associated foods - excess of carbs and proteins in some cases) in excess can lead to a situation where diabetes T2 happens.

Make no mistake: DT2 is metabolic in nature. As are many other modern diseases.

TalkinPeace · 21/01/2018 13:08

Olivia
Read what you typed on Friday at 16:14
and stop being so flipping dogmatic.

Different things work for different people.