Please only reply if you're female and closer to 50 than 40

[IWillSurviveHeyHey]

Because how in the name of the holy cheeses does one loose weight at the age of 48, when nothing that used to work in the past, works anymore?

I am reasonably active and don't overeat although admittedly I do drink alcohol and have a weakness for sweets. This was never an issue before but clearly it is now. Simple I hear you say, stop drinking alcohol and eating sweets. But I have. And whist in the past I would have started noticing some change after a couple of weeks, nothing moves at the moment. In fact, I am just getting bigger and bigger.

I have extremely large thighs and I am only short so I feel really uncomfortable within myself. My only saving grace is that I don't have a fat belly.

I am a bit sick of being hungry pretty much all the time and still, it seems I need to accept that I've gone from a size 10 to a size 12 in the space of a year and I've been hungry for the most part. Well I don't want to accept that. I need to go back to a size 10 or by the end of 2018 I'll be a size 14.

Please help me.

The Hay diet!
Really???
Hahahaha

@TalkinPeace

Let's - per suggestions of other posters - have a calm and rational conversation.

My post did not say what you claim.

And sure 'different things work for different people' depending on goals, lifestyle, body composition, DNA.

But the human (not gorilla) body only works one way. That's not dogma; it's biology. You can ignore biology in how you eat if you want; we all have that choice. Some are not afforded that luxury however.

Some are not afforded that luxury however.
Yup, lots of people have to get the bulk of their calories from rice and fruit.
And most of those people do not get T2 diabetes.

But in the Western world - aka the people who started this thread! - things like fruit and rice do contribute to weight gain and also - ultimately/possibly - diabetes. Because we eat too much of them, along with other sugary foods, in combination with too much fat.

You well know, TalkinPeace, that it's not just how much we eat (although that's definitely part of the problem) that causes obesity. It's also the type of foods that we eat.

By definition 5:2 will help with that too - you're controlling/reducing the amount of calories you're consuming as well as also reducing the amount of carbohydrate/sugar that you're taking in.

I'd add that this Western world trend of being fat (and associated diseases) is relatively new ... The UK is not far off this as are many other countries. China is now getting heavy so it's not just the West!

Reason? A change in diet suggestion by the US FDA in the 1970s, copied by many governments.

ohfortuna Why is it funny? It's not actually , it gives reasons why so many people are unhealthy and obese.

BIWI
My point is that demonising food groups is NOT the right approach.
Fat was the enemy
now Sugar is
when in fact the problem is that much too much food is available and people have to learn to show restraint.
The whole I do not want to be on a diet forever stuff.
Cutting down on carbs or skipping meals are just easy methods to exercise restraint.
There is nothing special about either of them.
And trying to medically justify giving up fresh fruit is not constructive.

Not eating carbs and protein in the same meal .

@TalkinPeace

I think you're misunderstanding.

No one is demonising food. Food macros need to be understood in terms of their impact on the body.

200 kcal of a simple sugar like gummy bears will have a completely different metabolic effect than 200 kcal of lean chicken breast or 200 kcal of saturated fat.

The failure to appreciate that and incorporate into lifestyle decisions leads to frustrations surrounding health and weight management.

Talkin The problem as I see it, is , that the majority of people see food in an emotional way, due to the "treat' mentality.

It's almost impossible to get over the "healthy foods are tasteless and boring' To "gimme sugary treats". And of course the food industry cashes in big time!!!

Olivia
And you are wilfully ignoring the fact that it is entirely possible to eat rice and fruit with most meals without being overweight or diabetic

moderation in all things

ppeat
Oh yes, the sodding treat mentality
I ask people what exactly they did to deserve a "treat" and its usually things like "I woke up" or "I went to work" or "I walked up the stairs"
ie nothing at all at all at all

I think the key to this is finding a way that you can keep doing and find sustainable. Each January there are loads of threads with people saying they are going to be ‘good’. Then back to work, long nights, bills come in and January can be a bit depressing. The new regime goes out the window and phases like ‘off the wagon’ start appearing and a lot of people give up.

The issue with cutting out a food group is that the minute you have any of it then potentially a psychological aspect comes into play and the concept of ‘fail’ gets introduced and that’s where it starts going wrong for a lot of people as they find it hard to push through that feeling and the fuck it button goes off which ties into the whole treat mentality thing as well.

Talkin

Yes true PostNot That's why I love the Paul Mackenna WOE , you can just go straight back onto it!

Postnot
the fuck it button goes off
With bells on

@TalkinPeace

Of course. It's possible. I don't think that is what BIWI was saying and it is not what I am saying.

If you recall one poster was saying she had glucose intolerance. And I was responding to that when you jumped in. Would you suggest this poster add more glucose to her diet to aid her glucose intolerance? Would it not help to understand what this means to assess a course of action?

moderation in all things
This is one of those sayings that I find rather silly. My preference is to understand what is less good in life and avoid. So drugs are a no go. As are excessive carbs.

I broadly know what glucose does / how it works and choose to fuel my body primarily with the only other fuel we can: fat, both dietary and body. I believe - and this is an opinion; I cannot prove this - that this is how humans were designed. We did not have a lot of carbs at our disposal for most of our evolution - ie only the last 10,000 years.

We did not have a lot of carbs at our disposal for most of our evolution - ie only the last 10,000 years.
You need to read more current anthropology and archaeological science then

I'm getting fed up with the preaching on this thread, mostly by Olivia. I don't want a lecture on glucose metabolism, thank you, especially from someone who is not medically qualified.

Please stop preaching half-baked science on us & allow us to share our positive experiences, which is what the thread is about. If you want to be "head girl" - go start your own thread.

@MoreProseccoNow

You might not want to read this but I was asked to explain. And I have received many DMs thanking me for the explanations I provide. So this does not go unappreciated by all,save for the noisiest.

If you think it is half-baked please explain. It's easy to criticise when one doesn't know the facts. Many have claimed that what I describe is wrong - it may well be - but I have not yet had someone correct me.

Olivia - I have a nutrition degree. At least half of what you're saying is incorrect. I'm not going to engage further with you, as I don't want to derail the thread.

Hi I'm 45, I crept up to 10 stone 4 from 9 stone 8 over the last few years. I am 5ft 4, has always been a Size 10 with very little effort! Everything seemed to change overnight and everything stopped working.
I bought the blood sugar diet recipe book in May last year, by August I was 9 stone 5 and am now 9stone 2 and have been since October last year.
It's a game changer, I'm not on a diet I just eat very differently. After 4-5 days your craving for bread, biscuits etc does go.
I found it so easy and I now enjoy so many more things. I'm pescatarian and have found it very easy.
If I go out for a coffee I will have a scone - but only maybe once a fortnight. But I don't feel deprived as I'm genuinely satisfied with my food and am never hungry!
Feel free to ask me about it. I'm back to my pre baby weight at nearly 46 and I'm thrilled.

Gratuitous assertions ...

Old style - Ancel Keys inspired - nutrition degrees are unfortunately misguided. Happy to debate with you over DM if you care to. Happy to learn if I am indeed wrong.

cheese
I'm not on a diet I just eat very differently
Yes, this.
And well done on finding one that works so well for you

olivia
Happy to learn if I am indeed wrong.
Its not about you being wrong - its about you being less strident and preachy.
Low carb / cutting out rice and fruit is not the only way.

Olivia glucose intolerance is different to insulin resistance but you’re correct in saying they can both lead to diabetes. It’s not picked up with a fasting glucose test which is incidentally how you would be tested on the NHS. Luckily I was living overseas and had a glucose tolerance test ..Yep, some of your ‘science’ is flawed (biology degree and years of pharmaceutical background here). But I do understand what you are getting at but perhaps this thread is not the right vehicle for discussion. And nutrition advice is changing constantly .I love Coconut oil but stopped eating it recently because it was considered unhealthy - now Michael Mosleys trial says it has a beneficial effect on Hdlp.
Made Tom Kerridges lighter Apple tarts today as I had loads of Apples and Puff Pastry that needed to be used up.Kids had two each and I accidentally dropped the others on our filthy kitchen floor.Could have cried 😳.