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Weight loss chat

A space to talk openly about weight loss journeys and challenges. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Exercise Buddies - anyone want to join?

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Lorns · 09/02/2007 15:45

Hi this a new thread linked to "We want to lose 10lbs NEW THREAD"

I'm a Group exercise instructor/Personal Trainer and have been offering advice to mumsnetters!

Following suggestions that it would be good to start an exercise/nutrition advice/motivation thread - well here it is!!

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speedymama · 12/02/2007 13:55

Unfortunately not - having twins by CSection saw to that! Even though I am nearly the same weight that I was before I had them, my bust is larger (no complaints there) but so is my midriff. My body shape has really changed a lot. Plus I'm 42yo so shifting the extra layer of fat requires more effort. Consequently, I've determined that I need to lose another 7-10lb plus increase my cardiovascular activity to help trim my midriff.

A female colleague at work remarked on my firm bottocks when I was wearing trousers a couple of weeks ago so at least that end is OK.

Lorns · 12/02/2007 20:56

Hi everyone - day 1 of half-term and I feel frazzled - how about you all???

I'll try and post at the end of each day (or when I can)... Hard to know how much technical stuff to give you. Please let me know if I go "too deep"!!

For you all... All exercise burns fat by increasing the metabolic rate. You need to do as much work as you feel you can in the time available. This will differ for different fitness levels. One person may be able to walk briskly for 30 mins before feeling fatigued, so at 5 calories a minute will expend 150. As they become fitter the pace will become faster in that 30 mins and/or time will be extended and more calories will be burned. The key to success is to choose forms of exercise that can be sustained for (benefits after 15-20 minutes though) 30-60 minutes on a regular basis (minimum x3-5 a week).If using machines try and build up to staying on the same machine for this time to ensure a sustained heart rate 60-90% of predicted maximum heart rate). It's a mistake to think the only way to burn cals is aerobically. Strength training can play a significant role in weight management and fat loss. (I'll let you know the results of a study done on this sometime soon)!!

Going back to frequency. Above average fitnes s can be maintained exercising 3-4 times a week. (Beginners 2-3 times). USE THE PRINCIPAL OF REST AND RECOVERY (Have regular rest days - your body NEEDS IT!!). If a maintenance programme is the objective, research has shown that frequency can be reduced to as little as 2 sessions a week but intensity needs to be HIGH.

Duration - minimum length of time for an exercise session for aerobic benefit is 15-20 minutes.

Marls100 - Hi there. What is a MD?

Unknownrebelbeing - Hi and welcome! Hope the above helps you re exercising on your bike. It's good to have a variety of exercises!

If the heart rate thing has confused you - think of a scale of 1-10. 1= at rest 10=can't breath easily. You need to think about working between 6-8 moderately to fairly puffed for as long as you can during your workout. If the "gentle" keep fit class was not working you - can you find something that is?? Remember weights will also aid fat loss.

Nearlyfourbob - What is BAT (bums and tums)??

MuckyAnthea - hi and welcome. Please see above general comment on guidlines for MHR. You can work up to 90% of MHR (mainly athletes do this). It will not have adverse effects, but depending on your aerobic threshold (linked to fitness and overall health) you need to feel challenged but comfortable!

You say you shouldn't go above 159. How did you work your heart rate out?? As for running speed. Are you on a treadmill? You're most likely shuffling because you are going too slow. Walk with even strides - heel to ball of foot. Run with relaxed arms and quicker but still long strides - not knees up mother brown!! Hey if your in a gym the staff should be there to help you!!

Laloop - how did your gym sesh go today?

Hi speedymama and welcome! Please make sure your not overdoing it. You are doing 2 sessions a day - even though they're broken up. That's like going to the gym x2 a day! There's nothing wrong with doing 2 hours, but would it be possible to break the days up to allow your body some much needed recovery? This maybe why you were exhausted by sunday!!! Church is good !

That's all for today!!

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speedymama · 12/02/2007 22:29

Well after a day at work, picking DTS up from nursery, feeding, bathing, reading stories and then putting them to bed, I did Keli Roberts Kickbox DVD. I am really exhausted now and think I have let my enthusiasm get the better of me. I'm going to have a break tomorrow (will still do crunches and press ups when I get up) and do something like Tae Bo on Wednesday.

I'm really looking forward to DH coming back tomorrow. I need a break!

Marls001 · 12/02/2007 23:05

Lorns - Medical Doctor What are they called in the UK?

unknownrebelbang · 13/02/2007 00:38

Thanks for that Lorns.

The keep fit class was a good workout even though it was fairly gentle, as I'm not as fit as I should be, and I've not done anything like that for years, but the bike isn't hard-going because I can't alter the dial, and just wondered how much use it was to carry on doing it - it's the easiest thing to fit in iykwim.

I do swim (and put the effort in there) but tend to do that more later in the year.

nearlyfourbob · 13/02/2007 01:19

BAT - Butts, Abs Thighs. Went to the slower one and it wasn't slower - and I'm a musician so I can tell how fast a beat is.

MuckyAnthea · 13/02/2007 07:46

Thanks for taking the time to answer my q's Lorns. I got the heart rate thingio from the bupa website I think? my heart rate is around 60 at resting, then I had to calculate something to do with my age [33] and I came up with 159 being the max heart rate.

Anyway, having swam 50 lengths today, am going to the gym tomorrow arvo to start the 2nd stage of the Bupa running plan. Can't wait!! somehow, the running yesterday has done something to me, can't put my finger on it, but I'm alive - ALIVE I TELL YOU!!!
Will try running a bit faster tomorrow though, yesterday I think I was too aware of my arse swinging to and fro

PeckaRolloverAgain · 13/02/2007 10:06

Im going to try this BUPA thing and do it outdoors then its a workout I can do on the days that I cant get to the gym.

How sad am I but I only started exercising a month ago and cant imagine life without it now.

If someone said to me "I can wave a magic wand and you will lose weight without exercising" I woudlnt want it!

I keep getting despondant as a friend of mine is following slimming world and doing no exercise and she is losing weight pretty easily - I keep thinking hmmmm Im busting a gut and not getting the same loss BUT what I AM getting is -

*increasing muscle which will improve teh look of my body, make me stronger, leaner and increase my metabolism even when Im not exercising.
*looking after my heart with CV exercise
*Feeling fit and healthy and ALIVE
*Getting endorphin rush after exercise
*Enjoying the challenge of pushing myself

So, yes, weight loss aside there are lots of good reasons to do it my way

PeckaRolloverAgain · 13/02/2007 10:06

Im going to try this BUPA thing and do it outdoors then its a workout I can do on the days that I cant get to the gym.

How sad am I but I only started exercising a month ago and cant imagine life without it now.

If someone said to me "I can wave a magic wand and you will lose weight without exercising" I woudlnt want it!

I keep getting despondant as a friend of mine is following slimming world and doing no exercise and she is losing weight pretty easily - I keep thinking hmmmm Im busting a gut and not getting the same loss BUT what I AM getting is -

*increasing muscle which will improve teh look of my body, make me stronger, leaner and increase my metabolism even when Im not exercising.
*looking after my heart with CV exercise
*Feeling fit and healthy and ALIVE
*Getting endorphin rush after exercise
*Enjoying the challenge of pushing myself

So, yes, weight loss aside there are lots of good reasons to do it my way

MuckyAnthea · 13/02/2007 10:11

Hurrah Pecka!! hallelujia. I think exactly the same way as you. I am disappointed with the lack of weight loss, but I think you gain so much more satisfaction from the effects of exercise, then what you see on the scales.

Lorns · 13/02/2007 10:57

Hi Marls100 - We call them Doctors - but Medical doctors is just fine. Wondered if you'd seen a specialist or Physio, Osteopath etc. who'd diagnosed no more running!! Hey does anyone else find that you'd typed in letters that your fingers were nowhere near!!!???

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laloop · 13/02/2007 13:01

Hi everyone

No proper exercise for me today as I just don't have time to get to the gym today. I have kept active though as I have been out to the shops earlier this morning and have spent nearly two hours on the housework.

I think my problem that I can't shift a few lbs (7-10lbs ideally I reckon) is that I am eating far too much at the moment. I was doing fine before Christmas but I think my portion sizes and snacks are adding too many calories to my daily amount.

I'm going to follow the weightwatchers diet for the next month or so and see how I get on. I started keeping a food diary again over the weekend to see where I was going wrong and it was scary how much extra I was eating without even realising - a biscuit here or there, or nibbling while making the kids' tea then having a full meal when dh gets home from work. So I will have to watch what I eat as well as keeping up the exercise levels.

speedymama · 13/02/2007 13:25

Laloop, I'm following WW too because I have got into bad habits wrt to portion sizes and nibbling. I blame the dark winter months for leading me astray.

Lorns · 13/02/2007 15:23

Hi nearlybourbob - Instructors are using faster music for types of conditiong classes - somteimes dictated to by the licenced music we can purchase to play. However, personally I believe that anything above 128bpm is too fast for conditioning. Slower is more effective as it recruits more muscle fibres. However, the beats should be slower for say ab work than squats (on the whole)!!

MuckyAnthea - I've looked at the BUPA site and they give one method of calculating your target heart rate.

Can I give you another?

First I susgest you take your resting pulse first thing in the morning for three mornings before you get out of bed to find the average. You may then want to use the Karvonen formula - similar to the BUPA caculation.

For females it is actually 226 - age and not 220!

Formula is 226-(age) 33 = 193
191 - (resting pulse) 605 = 133
133 x 60%= 79.8
79.8+ 60 (RP) = 139.8

So for 70% = 153.1
For 80% = 166.4

Use the 220-age is would be approx. 150!

Unknownrebalbang. Would be good to have some resistance. Maybe a new exercise bike as I know it's soo usful to have around and just fit it in!

Keep up the balanced dieting everyone (I'm talking to myself too...). When you keep a food diary you can really see what extras your taking in...

Laloop - housework is great for keeping in shape especially when you put wome welly into it!!!

You're posts have put a smile on my face today. I FEEL ALIVE!!

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Lorns · 13/02/2007 15:24

Typo - should read resting pulse 60% not 695!! [BLUSH]

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Lorns · 13/02/2007 15:24

Wrong again - not 605!!!

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speedymama · 13/02/2007 16:02

Lorns, I work out 191 minus resting pulse of 65 to be 126.

speedymama · 13/02/2007 16:04

Also, should the 191 be 193 following on from the previous substraction?

thirtysomething · 13/02/2007 19:58

can I join please? I have 3-4 stones to lose and for the past 3 weeks have been going to the gym 3-4 times a week, doing 45-50 minutes on a combination of x-trainer, treadmill, rower and stepper, plus weights and a 30-minute swim once a week too. I am also doing weightwatchers. In the first 2-3 weeks I lost 7lbs but this past week haven't lost anything! I do feel better for doing all this exercise though, but am wondering whether that is it for my weight loss, as I do feel I'm putting a lot of effort in! My gym instructor wants to review my gym routine in a couple of weeks and increase the intensity on some of the machines. Well done to all of you who are trying so hard with exercise, it's never easy getting started!

Lorns · 13/02/2007 22:25

Hi MuckyAnthea - sorry to confuse you - I'd typed some of the numbers wrong, but the caluclation is correct. I was taking your resting pulse rate at 60 - (mis-typed and it read 605! Also 226- (your age) 33 = 193

Here's that calculation again..

226- 33 = 193
193-60+133
133x60%=79.8
79.8 = 139.8

You're 60% MHR = 139.8

Your Resting pulse might be different if you take it first thing in the morning!

Hi thritysomthing and welcome! Your exercising seems fine and it's great that the gym staff will review your programme soon. Remember that muscle weighs more than fat and that you will loose more weight in the first few weeks of dieting and then even out. If you're able to follow the weightwatchers system then you should see results soon enough. Why not also see how your clothes are fitting. You're body shape will change when you do exercise!

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MuckyAnthea · 14/02/2007 03:28

Thanks Lorns for that, much appreciated. So it means I can go up to around 170ish and not worry.

By the way - do you know if exercise can be linked to a break out in spots? I have terrible acne on the side of my face and one spot by my lip that will NOT disappear. I can only put it down to going to the gym, could I be right? Its depressing me to be honest, and nothing will shift them.

Off to the gym in a bit. Going to run like the wind!

Lorns · 14/02/2007 10:21

Hi MuckyAnthea - sorry to hear you're breaking out. I can understand how you feel! I hadn't heard of this before and so looked on a site called Acne-advice.com. They said the following (which I agree with...
Exercise can help acne by increasing the blood flow to the skin and providing oxgyen to the skin cells. Moderate sweating will clean the pores from the inside. This in turn will aid skin health and reduce acne by both preventing further outbreaks of acne and helping existing acne disappear. Spots and blackheads will heal quicker and scars will fade.

Exercise will improve the fitness of your internal organs so they will be able to work more efficiently. Improved cardio-vascular fitness will mean your heart and lungs will get oxygen round your body more effectively. Your liver, kidneys and bowel will be able to work better to get the right nutrients out of the food you eat and get toxins out of your system more quickly. Exercise rebalances hormones and reduces stress ? both are precursors of acne.

What about going to your doctor for some antibiotics or maybe asking to see a dermatologist. In the past I had an outbreak of 3 types of spots and I saw a dermatologist who gave me some medication and some fact sheets about keeping the unwanteds at bay. This included only washing my face with water, not using creams on my face, not drinking red wine or having spicy foods and not going in the sunshine! I have some red wine, love the sunshire and am allergic to spicy foods (like them tho). Do find it hard to not use anything on my face and at the mo am trying to find somthing suitable for my ever increasing wrinkles. I do get spots easily but have dry skin aarghhh!!!!

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Lorns · 14/02/2007 10:26

Hi everyone - hope you ahve a good day. I was going to preasure wash all my flagstones today (try and get the DSx3 to help) - but it's raining cats and dogs so no chance there! Good luck to all who are running outdoors today...!

Hi speedymama - confused you as well I see - must be tiredness I guess! See calculation for MuckyAnthea.....

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McDreamy · 14/02/2007 10:39

Haven't started my running yet!!

MrsFish · 14/02/2007 18:21

Hi all.

Well I went to the gym yesterday, had a PT for an hour, then went shopping, I was absolutely knacked when I got home (btw I am pregnant for those of you who don't know ;)) He told me I have to keep up some of the exercises whilst at home and walk as much as I can (good advice) hoping to keep weight gain to a minimum this time round. So today I did a 3mile walk this morning with a friend, and the MiL came this afternoon, and the day turned out so nice, we did another two miles, so I feel like I have achieved something. Off to the gym again tomorrow afternoon, and the weekend we are off to London so lots more walking to be done then aswell

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