New Mums: Pre-diet we had pride, now we want new bodies!

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Here we go again!

Ok it's the magic thread where we find inspiration, motivation and actually see the results we want and manage to hold on to them once we get them.

No more excuses (unless they are hilarious or necessary).

Welcome all!

sol that would be amazing if you PM the details. Im so worried that his speech is going to have a huge knock on effect with his education. He has no trouble understanding and follows instructions well.

I did a lot of research in the nurseries in the area and this place is fairly new but I think Dc's will do well there together. The also do after school clubs where they pick up your child from one of the local schools and take them back to the nursery. (although ds1 wont be at school for another 1.5 years but its good to plan)

beyond I feel for you with your DD and the sleep issue how old is she? how is the exante going? I hardly ever go out with dc's on my own in the buggy.....its the car all the way as I cannot control ds1 :) I hope you all recover from your colds, ds1 and 2 keep passing it back and fourth but I have managed to avoid it so far (keeping fingers crossed)

green i run up the stairs and jump into bed if I got told to go up at 19.30 but alas as my dc's dont nap in the day I end up spending my evenings doing house work and cooking (if not on mumsnet :) )

I hope dd and dh are feeling better? did your dd's speech happen over night? My ds1 has stayed the same for along time now with no improvement.

I agree parenting is hard, i take my hat off to stay at home mums I love my dc's but man are they hard work. Ds2 is going through a clingy cant leave the room stage at the moment which I am finding very hard. I am also looking at giving up BF as due back to work in 6 weeks but its just so easy and I wouldnt know where to start by giving bottles.

sorry to off load :)

I hope you all are having a good week.

That's no problem Rachey, I'll send you on any details form the class. It's worrying isn't it? If you explain to the new nursery that your DS has speech delay and the tricks you use with him, they should be able to work with you. If they don't know about it, they won't be prepared. It just means that they may put someone with lots of experience with him to make his time there much easier (I've worked in loads of childcare settings and when children need extra support we would always work with the parents and make sure that any specific help is given).

Children are bloody hard work, I don't know anyone who has it easy. There have been days where I have given the kids bowls of crisps and put the telly on just so the boys will leave me in peace for 10 minutes. I used to feel quite guilty about it, until I saw that they saw it as a huge treat and it really reduced my stress levels. I'm working (slowly) on becoming a less shouty parent, I'm a work in progress but I'm getting there. DS1 told me he hates when I shout, I told him he needs to stop being so annoying . Not my finest parenting moment but he seems unscathed by it all.

I didn't go to weight watchers last night. I was talking to some of the Mum's up in DS1's school and they were saying that they used to go to our local class but they had a lot of trouble with their weights not being recorded properly and the woman who ran it didn't always have adequate supplies of books, handouts, bars etc. One lady was telling me that she had weighed in at home as having lost 3lbs, went to the class, the leader said she'd only lost 2.5lbs and then only recorded a loss of 1.5 lbs on her chart. It led to a massive row and lots of other members said the same thing had happened to them.

There's another class that's a little bit further away but it's run properly so I think I will go to that one. It's on Monday so I'll have to wait. I've actually started ww myself today, I'm going to see if I can do it by myself for a bit. I'm very fat now, it's depressing. But my plan is to lose a minimum of 1lb per week until my holiday, which means I will be 20 lbs lighter. If I lose more, that's great, but 20lbs is my goal.

Rachey, there are bottles called Closer to Nature. We used them when we were bottle and breast feeing, they were great. I think Tomee Tippee make them. Buy one and see how you get on. We tried Avent with DS2, they make a similar bottle to Closer to Nature, they were very good too. He had reflux so wasn't breast fed as long so found the transition easier.

My advice would be to buy one bottle at a time to try them so you can try lots of different brands, don't buy loads in case she won't take them and it'll cost you a fortune. Then when she finds a suitable one, buy loads. Your DD may be unwilling to take a bottle from you initially as she associates you with breast feeding, so get your DH to do it. It took a week or so to get DS1 to take a bottle properly, but it was worth the struggle.

DD and DH are both much better now Rachey

DD had hardly any words at 2. She slowly added some over the year but I was worried when she got to 3 and didn't talk much. But she never went to nursery before then. She was looked after by myself or grandparents and just went to toddler groups.
To be honest that year is much of a blur. As you know, a baby and a 2year old is hard work! SIL kept reassuring me that she would catch up, but said that I should get her referred into the system if I was worried. My HV was concerned too.
So I got her hearing checked (all fine). She was 3 in the May and just started to pick a lot more words up. She started school nursery in the September and coincidently got an appointment for the SALT on the same day. She got discharged, but I could get another appointment if I was still concerned in afew months. She just seemed to take off after that, it seemed to be linked to gaining more independence too? I think that I spoke for her too much and just knew what she wanted a lot of the time. Once she went to nursery she had to be more forceful? (This might all be a load of BS!)
She's 5 this year and seems fine now. She's not a really chatty child though, she's quiet and reserved. She wouldn't dream of speaking to a strange adult.

Anyway, try not to worry.

How old will DS2 be when you go back to work? I never managed to get mine onto bottles. With DD1 I just cut out the morning and day time feeds (but she was 10 months). DD2 BF forever, but I also cut the day feeds out for her. I just gave them formula in a sippy cup.

I can send you pictures of the WW smart points if you like Sol? Or are you doing Pro points till Monday?
You're doing the right thing finding another group. It makes a huge difference. The leader at mine is very professional and supportive. It's a lot of money to pay, so you don't want a poor job done.

I didn't go to WW yesterday as DD was still off school. I'm trying to stick to plan. My problem is still that I want the weight to just fall off. I have to get used to it being slow and not pigging out so much! I did some cooking yesterday so have some healthy things made. I must get more organised for the weekend and think of some meals.

Actually DD1 did have a bottle a few times. It was the MAM bottle. Problem was she'd only take it from me, which defeated the objective somewhat!

Thanks for all the helpful bottle advice. He does take a Dr Browns but has to be really sleepy otherwise just chews it. Ds2 will be just shy off ten months, I am happy to continue but I am not sure how this would work with my hours and nursery. I could try the sippy cup as he is great at drinking water out of one.

sol thats awful form for ww. Did they complain to head office? It really makes a difference liking the leader. I struggle with shouting at DS1, the strange thing is its as if he likes it and he laughs at the naughty step :(

thats a great goal, 20lbs is an amazing amount of weight to lose.

green glad to hear your dd adapted well to nursery and started speaking. Ds1 has been attending nursery 1 day a week since 8 months. as from March he will now be attending 3 days so maybe there will be a advancement soon?

Its so hard dieting i want the weight to drop off aswell. I have had no change in my measurements but Im down to 11st 2.5lbs. I havent been sticking to my diet 100% and feel very guilty about it as I could have lost more weight if I wasnt such a greedy guts :)

Sorry I said DD instead of DS Rachey, I blame work and family based exhaustion, it's killed my braincells.

I don't know if they reported the leader. I didn't ask, I was too shocked. That's amazing that you are down to 11 stone 2.5lbs, even if you aren't sticking to it 100% you are doing bloody brilliantly.

Oh I'd love pictures of the smart points Green. I am trying to do propoints but it's day one and I'm bored already. Fat, hungry and bored. Seriously considering lipo - just need a lotto win.

Morning all.

DS2 decided we should start our day at 3.15am and we are currently snuggled up watching Ben and Holly and having peanut butter on toast. The wind is howling here and as we are end of terrace the noise is dreadful, it's also bloody freezing so he was never going to go back to sleep. So the heating is on and all I can do is hope he goes for a sleep later on in the morning.

My goal for today is to avoid eating masses of sugar, that always happens after a night of poor sleep.

My heart goes out to you sol is it just you and ds2 today? If so it could be a "chill out" day. I find a coffee with a sweetener normally helps the sugar pangs or a big spoonful of peanut butter

I don't want to rub it in but ds2 went from 23.15 to 5.00 without needing a feed, I just soothed him and put dummy in. He hasn't done this since 3 month growth spurt. I don't want to jinx it thou.

Maybe get jan out the way and start fresh in February with Ww? Sometimes I feel I need to get it out my system before I knuckle down.

That's brill that your DS slept so well, hopefully it's the start of things to come.

I just had a small piece of chocolate orange cake . It was really bloody nice though. I have both kids today, DS1 is in school at the moment and DS2 is snoring his head off in his bed, I've just cleaned the house a bit and now I'm having a sit down. I don't want to do much today, but sadly that's not going to happen.

Sol 0315 is brutal, you definitely needed cake to get through the day, well done on only having a small piece. at that weight watcher leader. I'd have been fuming if she didn't record any loss I had made!

Rachey 11.2 is amazing. I am so thrilled for you. Great news on the sleeping as well. Have you tried the Advent Natural teats? They are the only ones DD would drink from. What formula do you use? Apparently Aptamil is closest to breast milk and quite sweet.

Green I'd be interested in the weight watchers points too please. I have a plan for next week. I am going to limit my carbs to maximum 100g a day and also aim for under1400 calories a day - 1200 may be optimistic but going to try and make 1200 my max a couple of days ... Also doing a fast day on Monday (Because I am going to a birthday thing on Wednesday and want to limit any damage). I did 4 days of exante this week and so hoping to have lost a couple of lbs on the Weigh in on Monday.

I finding the fitbit pretty helpful, are you still using yours? I am going to log my food. Had porridge this am, chilli chicken salad for much and steak tacos (no shells) for dinner and have calories counted for some dairy milk this evening. Did 1st run this morning after 2 weeks not running. Was hard but not as bad as I thought it would be.
Hope everyone is having a great weekend.

sol how are you after your very early friday morning? I dont blame you with the cake.........i would have eaten the whole thing :)

alas the sleeping was a fluke, oh well.......! I am hoping one day it will click and he will sleep through. He feeds quite a lot during the night......Oh thinks that if we gave him formula he would sleep better and be in more of a routine. he is in a little routine which doesn't really involve sleep :)

beyond he does have aptamil. When he is at nursery I may give them a sippy cup as ds1 was on sippy cups by 11 months.
Well done on your run. glad your enjoying your fitbit my one has died and wont charge back up.

Not having such a great weekend, have a sore throat, ache all over. God its so hard entertaining kids when you feel like something you trod in.

hope you all have a good saturday night

ok i have totally screwed up my diet today. Not been feeling very well at all and I prob shouldnt have gone spinning for an hour........anyway felt like absolute poo afterwards and thought I was going to pass out........so I havent stopped eating. Also I am drinking cough mixture like pop and sucking on strepsils like they are sweets (tons of sugar which are a huge no no) Oh well I will never look the people on instagram.

Confession over. Hope you are all well

Be kind to yourself Rachey you need to eat when ill. get better soon and then you can start again. A couple of days of eating won't undue all your hard work. Hope your DS sleep tonight and you get some rest.

I was also over today, carbs and calories. Trying for a fast day tomorrow.

Good luck on your fast day beyond
It's easy to beat yourself up thou isn't it. I stupidly weighed myself and I've put 1.5 pounds on. That is pure narcisstic behaviour I knew it wasn't going to be good but did it.

Ds2 had an awful night sleep......went to bed at 18.30 woke up at 9.30 I was tired so I got him in bed.fed him at 23.00 then went back to sleep at 23.30 then woke at 1.30 till 3.30 oh had enough and slept on the sofa. As soon as oh went down stairs the cheeky bugger fell asleep nxt to me.

I still feel like shite but I'm at the gym sitting in the cafe while the kids are in the crèche

Hope you all are having a happy Monday

I hope you went out to the car for a snooze instead of working out Rachey. That sounds tough with your DS2, it's so hard when they are little. Can you suggest your OH have the sofa tonight? He might get a better nights sleep and you could have an entire bed to yourself and DS2 if necessary. Is he teething? We always gave the kids Aptamil as their last feed, it seemed to fill them up. I'd just express the milk and use if for another feed. It might be worth a try. I ate like a savage all weekend too, I always do, I have put on the 2 lbs I'd spent 2 days losing - it's so annoying.

Well done on the run Beyond, how long do you run for? Did you weigh in this morning? Fair play on 4 days of Exante, I don't know if I can go back to that again.

I am home with 2 sick boys today, they both have temperatures and are out of sorts. Their sleep has gone to hell too so we have been stuck in all weekend, I am exhausted. I didn't make it to the ww meeting this morning so I have decided to count some calories over the next week. 1500 per day and see if it makes any difference. I had ordered ankle weights to pick up today, but what with the kids being ill I couldn't get them. I'm hoping that they will be available tomorrow. I made a chickpea balti for dinner with rice, I was really surprised how many cals was in rice but I can't get to the shops to buy an alternative so will have to make do.

I found a great way to keep kids entertained if any of you want to try it. Hang a balloon off the ceiling on long string, so that the kids can reach it. Give them a light sabre and tell them it's Jedi training school. I didn't see either of my two for about 45 mins on Saturday morning as they were playing away bashing the balloons about. It was bliss!

sol haha I was tempted but the cafe was a nice safe haven. Im starting to feel a little better tonight.......but that might be down to the copious amounts of bread, butter and chocolate I have eaten :)

that curry sounds delish. I bet you are knackered your poor ds's I hope they feel better soon. That balloon idea sounds amazing my oh cant wait till they boys are old enough to get into star wars

beyond wow 4 days on exante sounds extreme you deserve a medal.

Ds1 has a stinking cold (again) and has been very naughty all day. and ds2 is very whiney and clingy........I think its his teeth. I think I might be in for another rough night.

I'm glad to hear you're feeling a bit better Rachey. I hope you had a good nights sleep last night and that DS1 feels better soon. It's exhausting trying to diet with sick kids and broken sleep, I don't think any diet plan for Mothers takes that in to account. There should be separate weekly plans to follow for when your kids are sick, nicer ones, that incorporate carbs, sugar and rest.

DS2 now has the virus as bad as DS1, he seems to be exactly 24 hours behind him with the symptoms. So DS1 has gone back to school feeling great and DS2 is sprawled on the sofa watching Peppa. I have so much stuff to go out and do today but I really don't want to drag DS2 out, it's -4 here at the moment and I think he'd be so annoyed at leaving the house.

I had 1564 calories yesterday. I found it pretty easy to stick to, so I'm going to do 1500 for a week and then bring it down to 1400 if I don't see much loss on the scales.

The terrible 2's are in full here, everything is a battle and I am just exhausted.

Sorry to hear DS is now unwell Sol Hope it passes quickly. Well done on your 1500 calories. I quite agree re a new diet for mum were were can eat what we want and still be skinny.

How was your night Rachey Glad you are feeling better, in awe that you went to the gym.

How are you Green

Sol when I say run really I mean inelegant waddle, I am still on week 1 of couch to 5k, which in only about 10 mins of running and 20 mins of walking! I feel better for doing it though.

Oh and I lost 4lbs, hoping to lose 2 this week.

Hi everyone. I'm okay, just been tending to all the ill people in the family too. Plus I decided to start de cluttering too, which probably wasn't the best idea.
Diet is going okay, but I feel like I've hardly moved in the last 2 weeks. I really need to start doing some exercise. I had planned to start yesterday, but it never happened. I might do an exercise DVD on Monday. I might start with Davina's post natal one, maybe it won't kill me!
I've tried to email some WW stuff to Sol and Beyond, but it won't let me send pictures. I'll try to upload them to my profile later.

Well done on the 4lb Beyond, I think you are doing really well with the running too. When the weather improves I'll have to start walking to school, like you say, you feel better for it.

Hope DS2 gets better soon Sol, there are so many different viruses going round at the moment.

Are you feeling better still Rachey? Did you get any sleep last night?

Inelegant waddle sounds very poetic Beyond, I think you should be very proud of yourself. You are doing so well, I couldn't run for 10 minutes even if I was being chased by the hounds of hell, I'd just lie down after about 60 seconds and would let them eat me, it would be less painful. Congratulations on the 4 lbs, what is your goal weight?

Sorry to hear that illness is visiting your house too Green, de cluttering sounds like a good plan if you're stuck inside, at least you're being productive. It's hard to get motivated for exercise isn't it, I can't muster the energy at the end of the day.

We had a very long day here, DS2 wanted to sit on my knee all day and he barely ate a thing. Whereas DS1 was in brilliant form and full of energy and got annoyed I couldn't play with him all day long. I felt awful but sick DS2 needed to be cuddled as he was miserable. We have the terrible 2's here too, there is literally nothing that won't send DS2 off in to a tantrum, it is exhausting and I really feel your pain Beyond, I'm on the countdown 'til he's 3, only 11 months to go - woohoo!

evening all.

beyond 4lbs is amazing. Very happy for you :) I feel for you with the terrible two's DS1 has been going through these since 18 months. Im not sure about yours but he just cannot control his temper..... throws toys, throws himself on the floor, screams and headbuts the wall???!! How do you deal with the TT's?

sol I hope ds2 is on the road to recovery soon. Its so tough when they are poorly. Glad ds1 is better thou :)

green I wish I had your energy for de cluttering....have you made good progress? How is ww going?

I have started to get a bag of baby clothes together to give to the salvo's baby bank. I feel sad getting rid of the 0-6 month stuff but I know OH doesnt want any more :(

Day 4 of no dieting and I really starting to feel it. I emailed the body coach and they said dont exercise but eat from the no carb meals.........well when Im ill all I want to do is eat carbs. Im just going to have to carry on cycle 1 alot longer.

I have polished off nearly two bottles of cough mixture in 4 days but on the plus side my stomach muscles feel alittle tighter :) Im well and truly fed up with coughing, as its giving me awful headaches.

Alas still not much sleep as ds2 is waking every 2 hours for a feed. Tonight I have given him a bottle of aptamil at 18.45 so lets see how this little experiment goes......I just dont know why I feel so guilty about it.

Hope your all having a good evening OH watching the football so I might have an early night :)

The illness has almost gone now Sol. I don't feel great, but I'm not allowed to be sick.
DD1 was really poorly for 5 days. When she went back to school is was jumping around at the door to be let in. I was worried that they'd be thinking I was a liar!
DD2 hasn't been as bad. She's reduced the tantrums slightly but still likes to be as stubborn as possible about everything.

I hope DS2 gets better soon Sol. Illness and being 2 doesn't go together very well. Only 6months left for us.

I can't be bothered to do anything on a night. I feel too tired. One dinner time is over it feels like an impossible task to get everyone ready for bed.
I'm going to have to do exercise during the day and be stricter with myself.

WW is going okay thanks Rachey, mainly because I've felt more organised in cooking healthy meals. But I really need to stop snacking, I've got back into the habit of eating the WW fake chocolate bars because they are low points. Once I start on them I can't stop and end up picking on everything in sight. I don't think I'll have lost anything tomorrow.

It's almost 12 weeks to my Birthday. I want yo lose another stone by then and start doing some exercise.

The decluttering wasn't too energetic. I've mainly got rid of a lot of DD2s clothes. She has far too much stuff and looks like a badly put together scruff most days.
I still have a lot left to go through, but I'm waiting till Thursday when she is at my parents. im going to do DD1s stuff too and the toys. Plus we have a ridiculous amount of dressing up clothes that my SIL keeps giving us.

Oh I decluttered my makeup and skincare. That was fun. Plus I sold some unused things from gift bags.

I find it hard getting rid of baby things too Rachey. I found a bag full of dummies in the cupboard the other day. Goodness knows why. I've binned them now. I feel ready to tackle the bags of baby clothes in the loft.

I would give yourself a few days to feel better and then just restart. It's hard to go low carb when you are feeling awful. Plus the lack of sleep isn't going to help. Coughing can be really awful. I pulled muscles in my chest when I was pregnant and got a bad chest infection. I couldn't move for days.
You don't want to rush back into exercising until you are 100%
I hope the baby sleeps for you. Don't feel bad about the formula, it really won't do any harm.

Sorry to hear you're feeling so awful Rachey, you should definitely take it easy. Don't weigh yourself until you are better and have followed the plan for a few days, you'll just drive yourself mad. As for coping with the terrible twos? Wine is good, consistent rules, more wine, ignoring tantrums (DS2 hates being touched during a tantrum so I leave him be, when he needs a hug he gets one when he's ready. DS2 can tantrum for hours and is exhausted by the end of it), wine.

You sound very organised Green, it's good to de clutter. I always try and give the clothes to charities that give them to people who really need baby stuff. I don't feel so bad giving it away if I know babies who would be cold or have very little without them. I know it sounds dramatic but I have emotional attachments to some of the kids clothes but I really can't keep them all. I'm sure you will lose a stone by your birthday, it;s a really good target to have.

I'm up early with DS2, he is feeling rotten and we have been up since 5 am. Had another good day sticking to 1500 cals, I even managed 3 bags of crisps! I'm such a pig but I blame totm. I find myself looking at the calorie content of stuff and working out if it's worth "spending" so many calories on, clearly crisps are , but it's nice not having to work out points, syns, carb grams etc.