New Mums still seeking new bodies - this time we'll do it.

[SolitudeSometimesIs]

So a new thread, a new more motivated state of mind.

We will be skinny. No more excuses.

Well done on the trousers Sol. Don't worry about the Lindt balls (they are blooming lovely I agree). It won't do much harm, I think we should try to be 80% good. I'm sure this is a big improvement on what we were all eating pre diet.

We have laid of chocolate too - I have hidden it in a cupboard. Like your 12stone goals. It's my birthday in May too Green and I want to be 10 1/2 stone (which will leave me with just over half a stone to go).

Past few days I have felt a but hungry, I have also got some dry skin/eczema which I normally only get when I am stressed. I wonder if it's because of my lack of fruit and veg. I am starting an evening meal from tomorrow (Will weigh in the morning that will be a full7 days on meal replacements). I feel for me, exante is only a quick fix and I am going to go back on 5:2 when back from holiday.
I like the exante bars too Green, not tried the atkins ones. I have had lighter life (you can get those in Superdrug) and they were nice and filling as well. I am not at all keen on the exante soups and I don't really find the shakes as filing as the bars.

We must keep going :)

Grrr just cracked and had some cashes nuts and slices of chicken. Can't believe I gave in on day :(
Hopefully will not have done too much damage and I was going to start having some food tomorrow anyway....

I got asked round the in laws for dinner. Didn't eat too badly but I've drank a full bottle of white. Just because I want to stay fat! I'm feeling cheerful though. Wine is the best (I feel so drunk).
The nuts and chicken will be fine Beyond. It keeps your metabolism going. Both good choices. You've done really well this week. When are you weighing in?

A drunk Green - yay - I like a tiddly post!
Weighing in tomorrow, will post when get a moment.

When did you start eating food Green? And can you remember how much you lost week 1, 2 and 3?

I'm a disgrace! More wine, more wine
I think it was 11 lb week one ( 5 lb was toblerone) 3lb week 2. I think 2 or 3 in week 3 then about 2lb after. I'm sure I had a meal out during the first week. I had salad type food with meat/eggs from week 2.

Thanks - I was hoping you had added in a meal at week 2 as I knew you'd still lost.

Enjoy your wine :)

Yay! Drunky behaviour, I love it!

I would drink heavily if I had to have dinner with my in-laws too.

I'm having wine too. It has been the first week back to normality after Christmas so I think alcohol is needed.

I can't wait to see how much you have lost Beyond. Can you see any difference? I had a pretty good day. We had family over for the evening and we ordered pizzas, I had half a slice of a veggie one that had no cheese. I suppose that makes it a vegan one. It was lovely.

Ha, they were planning a family holiday (without DH!). I don't want to go! Plus they were all drinking red so it was rude to,leave some of the White?
I was supposed to,have homemade pizza.
Well done on your day too Sol. I'll start again tomorrow.

They were planning a family holiday without your DH?
Are they going on holiday with his siblings?
If so, that is really crap behaviour.
Where are they going?

i typed a massive reply then the Internet went off
DH works with his dad and brother. So difficult to take time off together (well for DH and Bil )
His brothers' daughters (my lovely neices ) go to private school. It breaks up 2 weeks earlier than the state schools.
SIL teaches in state school. Her plan is that PIL take DN on holiday with them, and me DC and SIL will follow when she finishes work. Our husbands will follow on whenever they can.
I can't be bothered with it all. They want to go to the Grand Canaries (I think I stoppped listening). I don't like the idea of going away with others. I'm a control freak when it comes to timings and all that. The PIL won't be helpful. it would be rubbish. I'm aware that I sound like a spoilt brat.
Smile and nod, smile and nod.

That sounds like my idea of hell!

I like to get away from people on holiday, not bring them with me. I have to say that I would be similar to you when it comes to organising and timings and if anyone can't get with my plan then I don't want to know. Especially if your PIL won't be helpful, it would really just lead to stress and a row - it's not worth it. You don't sound like a spoilt brat, you sound very sensible.

Also, I don't know about everyone else, but we get such little time to spend as a family that I really get quite territorial over that time. I don't want people intruding. I want to enjoy taking my kids places and seeing their little reactions, as far as I'm concerned my family and in laws all got to bring up their kids already, this is my time. Childhood zips by so fast, I want to keep it all for myself (greedy emoticon).

I've just eaten a fucking Terrys Chocolate Orange that I found in the press. Yum! But for God's's sake...

Felt slightly rough this morning, so I've been eating hangover normal food today. Don't low carb and drink ladies and don't expect 2 roast potatoes and a yorkshire pud to soak it all up!

It's years since I had a chocolate orange. Yum indeed. I'm starting again on Monday. Probably the Exante punishment diet or I'll never be 12 stone.
I'm glad I don't sound too mad about the holiday thing. We called round today and it wasn't even mentioned. Totally agree with you about family time. They are usually lovely but can be suffocating (and controlling) I won't go into a PIL rant. My parents can be just as irritating, but they do a lot more for me and expect less. They are happy to watch the children but don't try to take anything away from us as parents. I'll stop now or I'll start ranting. They are nice people really.

How are you feeling now Green?
Definitely try and avert any holiday discussions. Totally agree with Sol, family/holiday time is so precious. DH yes off very lightly with me as I don't have much family.

So I lost 6lbs. I am pleased but disappointed my tummy seems worse, I appear to have lost weight from everywhere else, I fear I am going to have to start exercising.... Tummy area just vile.
Starting to introduce an evening meal (low carb) - had stir fry tonight.
Worried about going mad surrounded by all the delicious food in America and will put it all back on.
Have lost 8lbs since Dec 26th, 20lbs to go.

Sol - I love chocolate oranges at least it has gone now (mildly helpful?>

Wow, 6lb is excellent Beyond. Well done. That's a really good loss, you've done so well going straight back on your diet after Christmas. Is your stomach sort of deflated and wrinkly? Mine went like that. It looked very sad. It's perked up more now. Or do you mean it looks bigger? Maybe you're bloated from the lack of fruit and veg? don't worry.
You won't put it all back on, I thought Sol's suggestions for meals good. Maybe just allow yourself one or two treats per day? Most places have quite healthy options anyway don't they? Just avoid sugary stuff and bread?
You can always low carb again for a week when you get back. You survived it now and you know how much you can lose.
I weighed in this morning (no idea why) and I'd lost most of the holiday weight from the few days of low carbing. Probably put it all back on again after today but I'll tackle it properly next week. So if you do gain you'll probably lose it quickly too.
I felt okay today. Once I'd had some tea and toast. I just hadn't ate much yesterday and it really affected how drunk I felt! I can normally drink a bottle of wine and feel fine if I've had food that day. Silly mistake. No more wine for at least a month now.

Congratulations Beyond. That's a fantastic weight loss. I think post CS bellies are never a thing of rare beauty - unless your Myleene Klass (cough tummy tuck cough cough). Mine looks like a balled up jumper in a pillow case. But it will go down, as you lose weight your figure will trim down, but just remember that you won't have your pre-kids figure.

Oh Green I hear you about the in-laws. I can tell you something that will cheer you up though, my MIL booked herself and FIL to come on our honeymoon! I've totally outed myself here, but I thought it would give you an understanding as to how I understand how good it is to rant about in-laws. We made MIL change her flights and they never came with us, but it was very overwhelming (I had told DH that she would do it but he never thought she would).

We're going super low carb for the next few months in our house. DH has put on some weight over Christmas and is feeling pretty miserable about his health. So, we're going to be supporting each other and aiming for a stone gone before Easter. I know he'll do really well and will lose loads quickly, but he has gone from a very physical job to an office based one so he isn't burning off the calories the way he used to.

Anyone else just tempted to have all over liposuction? I am. This weightloss thing is so tiresome.

I think liposuction may be the only way forward for me now. The dishwasher broke today. DD2 vomited everywhere at bed time and has only just gone to sleep. I took DD1 to a party at soft play from hell and I was reminded that I am a loner who freezes in social situations. (Although I won't really want to talk to some of the other parents) Then I got paranoid that the children will end up the same. I'm now drinking wine and eating Christmas cheese. Life seems better now.

That inlaw story wins hands down. I don't think I would have gone ahead with the wedding. That is very controlling. How did they react when you told them to change them? (And why on earth would they think it would be fine to go with you?) MIL was quite mad when it came to our wedding but she has calmed down since.

That's great that your husband is suportive. Mine is slowly improving.

I'll see if I have the energy to start again tomorrow. Tuesday might be more sensible.

How is your daughter today Green? Don't worry about freezing in social situations, I tend to be very apathetic in such situations. I have a very lovely friend who could small talk the legs off a donkey, I am not arsed. I don't want to be chit-chatting with some randomer all afternoon. But then , I'm a grumpy cow. Have you tried CBT or anything to boost your confidence?

The honeymoon was booked after the wedding. We were given the use of a villa belonging to a family friend's of DH as a wedding gift. It's in a lovely place and we'd been there previously. MIL booked herself and FIL for the first 5 days of our 10 day holiday. I feel I should point out that the villa has 2 bedrooms, so there would have been me and DH sharing a single bed in the same room as DS1, as FIL and MIL would have been in the other bedroom for a week (they were flying out the week before us). I actually laughed (in quite a hysterical fashion) when DH told me, then I hit the roof.

In his defence, FIL had no idea he was coming on our honeymoon and when he found out he went MENTAL - and he is a very quiet man so when he goes nuts it's a big deal. MIL had been meaning to keep all this a secret but couldn't keep her mouth shut and told DH, she was so delighted with her plan. Her idea had been that we would arrive from the airport and they would be sitting on the patio waiting to welcome us! If that had been the case I would have booked myself in to the nearest hotel.

What did your MIL do? What is it with weddings? People lose all sense of social norms and turn in to raving lunatics.

Day 1 of super low carb has been done. I followed an internet recipe for a tofu omelette, it looked like hot sick and I couldn't eat it. Poor DH has had a tough day, he looks as if he would happily sell me for a bag of crisps - he's had quite a grumpy day.

Sorry for the epic post. How is everyone else getting on?

That's a terrible thing to do to you all. At least your FIL is sensible.

My MIL likes to show off, especially if it makes her look well off or clever. We'd decided on a wedding venue and numbers of guests (both sets of parents had wanted to pay for their own, we were paying for everything else, but hadn't wanted so many people) then it transpired that she was planning on inviting all number of random people she hadn't seen for 20+years. They were all ready inviting loads of their own friends and had 20 more than my parents. DH had never met them (it was just to show off). I pointed out she'd be going over her guest allowance and she went nuts (we were at a small family get together).
Accused me of lying, started crying and screaming. Sobbing that she wasn't allowed exactly who she'd wanted at BIL wedding so she was having her own way this time! Then tried to say I wanted her to have no one of her own at the wedding (which was BS, we'd even asked her cousin to do a reading!) I walked out. I'm not confrontational and she goes on ridiculous. She really showed herself up. SIL gave her a right telling off. DH, BIL and FIl pretended they didn't know what was going on. (But they are too soft with her)
She came and apologised afew days later, but it really soured the day. She didn't get her extra guests and we've still never met them yet.
Oh and she was loud and pompous on my hen night much to many people's enjoyment.
There was afew other things but that was the main one. My mother is so laid back and has never had a tantrum in her adult life, never mind in public.

She just has a mad fixation on making others think so well of you. People take total advantage of her and she often doesn't realise till it's too late. She is obessed with not not offending people.

Examples of offensiveness:
MIL: what type of baby hats have you bought?
ME: White M&S ones, why?
MIL: girl,or boy?
ME: unisex as I said white
MIL: but there are different styles of peak for each gender. You need both or someone might be offended when they see your baby and get their sex wrong.
ME : who the hell will be visiting us that won't have been told? If they're that offended by that they're mad and I don't want them near the baby.
MIL:

Another example:
ME (almost 2 weeks overdue with DD1): I can't see this induction going well, so if I end up staying in hospital after having the baby please tell people I don't want visitors. (We had parent and siblings of course)
MIL:you can't say that. You'll offend people
ME: they'll be more offended if they turn up and I tell them to piss off. I'll be offended if they show up.

Christening for DD2
MIL: you have to invite people. They'll be offended.
ME: just don't tell them. I'll live with the guilt.

She's much better now. I just don't involve her with things.

Now that was an epic post, but therapeutic.

Well done on the super low carb day. Your omelette sounds vile. Dieting is bad enough without eating hot sick. Did you have to have tofu !

I must start tomorrow. I can feel,the fat sticking back on.

DD2 hasn't been sick anymore but is till teething and very sad. She must have the worlds slowest growing teeth.

I should do some sort of confidence boosting thing. But I'm also a grumpy cow. I also like to watch the children properly and don't think you can if you when you're talking.

Ha, that last sentence sounded a bit arsey! DD2 has been the victim of random toddler attacks recently so I have to be on guard. Talking is fine of course.

Your MIL sounds like a nightmare. That thing of screaming and shouting and wailing just sets me off, I don't even listen to whatever point someone's trying to make when they start that behaviour. How do you put up with it? I think you are right not to involve her in things, especially if she's a drama queen.

I think you need to start on your diet again. You have been doing so well. I know it will be hard to get back in to the swing of things, but just remember how good it felt when you were losing weight. Can you look at some photo's from before you started and now? It might spur you on.

Day 2 of low carb is going ok, I'm not too hungry but I am super bloated. Really hope it's not wind

I hope your DD is feeling better, teething is hell. Can she take calpol or anything?

She's fine most of the time. The last big blow up was a few years ago. I think she's realised they didn't get her very far, especially with DH and I.

So I've re started today. Could face all meal replacements so I've had an omelette for dinner (no tofu). I've had a think about it all and decided I'd rather weigh myself next week and be lighter (after dieting) than continue eating badly and find myself over 14 stone again.

What type if things are you eating Sol? I don't know how you do it without eating meat.
The tooth is nearly through now and another has started. She's still slightly off but I persauded her to have Calpol twice today so that's helping. She'll only have it if DD1 has some as she hates missing out. Luckily DD1 understands why she has to pretend.

How are you doing Beyond?

I have PMT which means people are lucky to be alive. It's dreadful this month - I caved and had a bit of a croissant and a mini mars bar, I don't even like mars bars that much but I needed some sugar. So as punishment I had only lentil soup for my meals, which was suitable torture.

I weighed in this morning I am 190.3 lbs which is the lightest I have been for years. I mean, it's still heavy, but it's lighter than this time last year!

I eat a lot of tofu Green. Lots of vegetables, salad, soup. I make my own hummous, black olive tapenade and baba ganoush and eat that with chopped up veg (it used to be pitta). I eat a bit of qourn stuff but it can give me really bad heartburn if I eat too much of it. I love nuts, but I'm a piglet when it comes to them and end up eating all of them so the healthiness of the snack is completely wasted.

How goes your return to low-carbing Green? Did you venture back in to meal replacements? I think you're right not to weigh yourself if you feel it will de-motivate you (un-motivate you?), well whichever it is, don't do it.

Beyond - where are you? How are you doing?

Hello ladies,

I am at your MIL stories. It was actually my own mother that was really horrid around my wedding, in fact at one point she said she wasn't coming. her behaviour has been flaky at times over the years (bit narcissistic really) but she absolutely outed herself before my wedding. I never forgave her really although and when she died 2 years ago, I felt like I'd already mourned her. Feel sad I didn't have a positive maternal figure in my life and totally do not overcompensate with Tiny and Little :)
Gosh this thread is like CBT :)
But Sol you honeymoon just really!! Sorry about the tofu, I had a chinese tofu thing once and it was really nice. Is it worth another tofu attempt or are you put off?
Sounds like you really handle your Mil well Green. Well done on restarting.
I have got PMT and so I think my weigh in on Saturday won't be accurate, weighed myself yesterday and looked like I had lost another lb. I am thinking about doing meal replacements for another week. I think the strict eating works for me short term.

Don't worry about the party Green - I can't be bothered to socialise either. Its so rare to find people you click with. Especially new people. I did strike up a friendship at a toddler group but she turned into a bit of a stressy nutter.

Definitely up for the liposuction, my arms and tummy have never been great. I have got an absolutely gorgeous tummy overhang, not sure it will ever go away. 2 x c section and it wasn't exactly flat before anyway...

How are you both?

Cross post Sol :)

Well done - terrific news.

We seem to have synced out periods. We are total chums now!!