Welcome to thread 12 of the Paul McKenna's I Can Make You Thin weight loss system.
The Golden Rules that will aid you on your journey with our like minded support system are:
1. Eat what you WANT
2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
3. Eat CONSCIOUSLY
4. STOP eating when you are satisfied and full
This weight loss system is about re-educating your body; learning to listen to it and in doing so losing weight and inches. After all, eating a meal is not a competition, it's about enjoying what you are putting in your mouth, but not feeling bloated and uncomfortable (or guilty) afterwards!
Many people have issues around food. Many of us have been brought up by the 'clear your plate' parents of yesteryear which leave us feeling guilty if we leave even the smallest morsel of food, but we are working through this guilt or any other hang up we may have, and we are learning to leave a bit on the plate; return to it another time if we really want to or even feed it to the dog or the bin!
So!! forget diets; they may work for a while, but they aren't permanent solutions. This is a new way of living for your brand new life!! Let's get lighter for those summer clothes!
The Paul McKenna system really works and is easy to maintain.
I've C&P'd our previous threads links as they are helpful.
Here are the book choices on AMAZON which is all you need to get started! they aren't compulsory, but they do help! it's something to refer to and listening to the cd's can really focus you.
This is the tapping technique EXPLAINED - this can be useful to combat cravings.
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The Paul McKenna Thread Number 12. A Simple Title, for Simple Weight Loss and All amongst Friends!!
Solo · 19/05/2013 11:04
Nope, can't be doing with rules either. 4 is my max 
It wasn't really eat what you want to suit yourself though - it was don't eat fruit because it is only just better than junk. There was a bit of backing down but it kind of feel like there was a superior, 'you can eat fruit if you want to but I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole'. You could almost feeling the rolling if eyes to dare to think that fruit is good for the average person. Anyway, I've given up now.
Hi Rules, I do have the gastric band book but I still haven't read it. Having bought I decided it was too much like a diet - you have to restrict what you eat by unnatural means and too many rules even if they are absorbed unconsciously. It doesn't appeal. So, that was money well spent. Damn that '1-day one click' button on Amazon - no time to think about the error of my ways. 
Hey....your a dark horse. Why didn't you say about the weight loss. Your doing really well. Know what you mean about the band, I had the same reservations but if you don't like it you just don't listen and any effects wear off. I did it to reinforce the mindful eating. Your doing fine anyway. How much do you want to lose...I want a stone at least two even better. I went buying clothes for an interview and I hated seeing myself in bloody changing room mirrors.
Just popping in to say I'll be on here occasionally (weve sorted me out an old laptop ) so I 'll be using it in London but wont have much time at all till next week when everything will have calmed down and I'll be cat sitting while DD2 is on her honeymoon! So love to you all and keep Pauling xx (the key with apostrophe is faulty!!)
Have a fantastic week ppeat. Hope the weather stays as fine as it is forecast to be and you all have happy and memorable day. 
Rules - I have loads to lose. A lot more than you. 4 stone would be good. I keep moving forward and then stopping and sometimes going backwards.
TBH I haven't been using the thread much as it seems to be going off the track a bit for me. Too much talk of banning or cutting out foods and food groups. I do understand some people are intolerant to certain things but there seems to an assumption that we would all do so much better if we banned them even if we don't need to. The whole point of Pauling for me is that you can eat what you want without traditional dieting and cutting things out. It has worked pretty well that way for several of us, me included (when I put my mind to it).
I know ppeat is passionate about her blood group diet too but it won't come as a surprise to her to know that I deeply sceptical about the whole idea and whilst I am happy for her that it worked (cutting back that drastically on the range of food you eat would though and low cal diets are the way to better health and longevity) I don't think this thread is the place to promote it. So rather than be rude or start a row, I stay away and pop back to say hi to people like Solo who I don't 'see' much these days.
I do keep reading and I am mightily impressed with the progress people are making but I am not sure I have anything useful to add.
Trying desperately hard not to tread on anybody's toes here.
BBB I understand what you mean. I'm trying to eat like PM says. Not that he had the idea first mind. I am eating anything I want but using this method . I agree that when you restrict your diet by cutting out certain foods then you end up losing weight anyway cause you eat such a limited diet and that's not really in the spirit of this woe. Sorry pp I know you do your blood group woe but to me you havnt really lost weight PMing, you've done it with this other way of eating. BBB come on the gastric thread. And why not think about giving the band a go. It might be the icing on the cake. I wondered why you didn't say much now I know 
Glad I am not alone Rules. Like I say, I really don't want to upset anybody.
I had teeny bit of a falling out with ppeat on another thread last week so she knows my views. I was glad I was able to keep it off this thread though because generally it has been lovely but it had been niggling me for a while.
To be fair, I am sure ppeat has only been able to maintain because of this WOE. She has done so well considering how many people put the weight back on so clearly whatever she has done has worked for her but I know it won't work for me.
Anyway, I will try and pluck up some courage to at least read the gastric band thing. I'll have a look at the thread too which I haven't done yet. I am actually a little bit embarrassed at the moment as having said that to ppeat last week that I never get colds either, in response to her saying how healthy she felt cutting out certain foods, I now seem to have caught a cold off DS2 who also never gets colds (At 9 he seems to have no idea how to blow his nose if is so long since he last had one!) so I am now forced to eat my words.
The end result is that I can't actually summon up enthusiasm for anything at the moment so bear with me for a few days!
A lot of people have kept the weight off by continuing with the system. I guess it's like anything.....you have to keep at it. . I saw the other thread that you were both on too. Thought a row was going to break out. In my opinion food is my medicine and I have always eaten fresh natural food all my life but I also enjoy chocolat and real icecream crusty bread and kettle crisps so the reason I eat this way is because off a childhood of being unallowed to eat when I wanted when I was hungry. If I try and deprive myself of anything my inner self rebels. Try the band....maybe....?? .
I dont want to upset anyone either. It's a lovely thread but sometimes it strays away from its basic message.
My weaknesses are chocolate and crusty bread too. I don't much like ice cream although I have it occasionally and Kettle crisps aren't my favourite either - Pringles or McCoys are my favs. My other favourites are jelly sweets like wine gums and cake. All of them are so much easier to resist if you know you don't have to give them up completely. Chocolate I regularly give up for Lent and after breaking the habit part of it in the first few days, I find it really easy but again, I know I can have it again so probably it helps. I do like the 80/20 thing as a guideline. I am not going to beat myself up if I have a 60/40 day but obviously you can't do it every day and expect to lose so it is in the back of my mind to think about what I have eaten over the course of a few days rather than just one.
I also didn't have a lot of this stuff as a child - we didn't have the money more than anything. Crusty bread was always available though - no sliced bread allowed in our house - we used to fight over who got the crusty end bit. Crisps and ice cream were holiday treats. Sweets were once a fortnight. We always had cake but it was home made. I am ashamed to say, knowing how much better home-made is, that having been deprived of shop bought cake, even now, 40 odd years later, it still seems like forbidden fruits to me. Just goes to show how deep our early conditioning goes I suppose.
Better go and have some breakfast. I really didn't eat much yesterday with feeling so ropey and I feel a bit weak and feeble this morning. I am not sure I am actually hungry but I might just have got beyond it so I do need to eat something I think.
Have a good day.
BBB it's nice to hear more about you and this woe. It is working for you again. I know you said once that even with this woe that you have to ignore your craving and make healthy choices...but with this GB thing I seem to be doing that without thing. seriously!!! For me I would have to say that it is totally
re enforcing the 4 golden rules sooo well. And I do feel slightly fuller much quicker and don't want to eat much. All he's doing is giving you another mind tool. Another suggestive image. It's nothing scary I promise. I went clothes shopping in Saturday for some interview clothes for an interview (haha) and I hated myself in the mirror so am more determined than ever to consciously eat and lose this weight. I'm size 14 to 16 but have had enough of not liking what I see in those bloody changing rooms 
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You aren't going to give up until I have read the book are you?
It is difficult to explain really. I don't think I crave things as such because if I decide to give them up it isn't an issue. It is more about eating for the sake of it and forgetting that whilst something might be tasting nice and I am not stuffed I shouldn't just keep going especially if it isn't nutritionally useful. This is an evening problem. I don't do it the rest of the day. Being more mindful is probably the way to solve it.
And sleep. I do keep saying that sleep is an issue but it is a bit the reverse of food really. I keep seeing how much I can do without and it isn't good. Maybe I should tackle that first but I am not sure the weight problem can wait that long.
I am an 18/20 but sadly more at the 20 end than the 18 at the moment. I dream of being 14/16 again.
Actually there is another thing I disagree with ppeat about - weighing yourself. If I went by my clothes feeling looser or tighter I could have put on a stone which would be pretty disastrous, so I have to weigh regularly. When I did the Alternate Day thing about 3 years ago, before starting Pauling, I lost 2.5 stone and barely moved in clothes size. I went from 20 to almost an 18 (I wore a mix of 18s and 20s). I think I am an unfortunate shape. I am curvy/pear shaped and I think I am right in saying that designers are designing for the more boyish figure these days without a waist but with smaller hips (not sure where I read it but that is what is seems like to me). All that happens when I lose weight is that my already loose waistbands get a bit looser but my hips don't reduce enough to go down a size. A bit depressing really. When I was 9.5st with a BMI of 21 I still had to wear size 14 trousers. Still, being a size 14 is a pipe dream for the moment so I shall have to keep plugging away.
Yes, you have a bit but you clearly think it is working and want to share. Nothing wrong with that.
hehe!!! BBB I will say no more!!!! I'm so losing weight though ....ha ha
The same weather every day would be boring. i don't like it really hot and I would rather be cold and try and keep warm than be hot and try and cool down.
Pauling, what's pauling? Not had the best day. Nothing huge but a little catalogue of inconveniences and cock-ups and a grade A chauvinistic builder.
We are having a proper porch made rather than the open sided thing we have now. The builder turned up this morning. We were discussing what sort of bricks to use as they don't make the ones used in our house but apparently DH has to chose the alternative bricks, I can't. 
DH couldn't care less so long as they are not glaringly different and he is colour blind anyway. I had to go out today or I would have taken him to task there and then. As it is, I am concocting cutting put downs for tomorrow when I tell the builder which bricks I have chosen.
Anyway, not much mindful eating going on. I had a Kitkat for lunch after my sandwich, just because. I did have to go out and buy it though so that sort of mitigates the bad effects. It was very nice but not actually necessary. I shall do better over tea now I settled down a bit.
Hope everybody else's day has been OK.
God I sound like a grump.
What I should have said was that the current weather is very pleasant and not too hot so I am not wishing for cold weather yet. Just don't want it to get over say, 25C. At the moment it still has novelty value. If it were like this until September and we had hosepipe bans and people stressing about water shortages I might be a bit bored.
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