Super Hard Chiefs (don't mention the poo)

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New thread for chiefs who choose their hard - all welcome!
Moving on from this thread which is full:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/big_slim_whatever_weight_loss_club/1696110-Calling-all-Chiefs-who-Choose-Their-Hard

Well, I can't claim to have kick boxed for cake (ossom motivation btw) but in preparation for some serious euro-randalling I have spent the morning re-arranging all the downstairs furniture.

It's one of my favourite pass-times and happily it burns calories too. Win/win

Now off to a local food fair. Today is not going to be a chiefly day!

Happy 12th birthday mini Tea, enjoy the cakes
Randall, enjoy the food fair, sounds lush.

Back from gym, making a caramel apple cake with ds1 shortly.

It's all about the balance, innit

Happy Birthday little tea enjoy the cake and gingerbread!

Caramel apple cake sounds fab lizzy

Actually everything sounds fab, I have squeezed in an extra fast and finding it tough, though only a couple more hours and I'm done. I know I'm going to eat and drink to excess this week so an extra fast sounded like a good plan. Weekends are not the place for such ideas though.

I wish I was going to a Eurovision party with costumes and food.

I'm off to pin some things and stop myself eating. Sure there's some nice cake and bread to drool over.

Have a happy birthday Master Tea, your cake sounds scrum!
Have been to Ikea, Laser Quest party and bought a new car today (separately), so the DCs have ruled their must be celebratory Chinese. I can just about fit it in as I've eaten very little so far.

Hope mini-tea is enjoying the cake!

I did a bad thing. I only had a tiny lunch before I went, rookie mistake. I bought a fuck tonne of cheese, a bottle of booze, then fell face down into a massive bowl of freshly made Massaman curry

It was bloody lovey though!

Never mind mini-tea. I loved the cake and the gingerbread and the booze. I am awaiting the small boys fecking off to bed so I can discuss Terry Wogan's cock with Eurovision in the background. Is anyone else following it on Karaoke channel? My DSis has just called to say she has sung in Lithuanian and I am vair jealous.

SDP you deserve a great big badge for fasting on a weekend. I'm not sure that it's been done before.

Randall falling with your mouth open helps break the impact due to extra air. It's unfortunate sometimes that tasty, calorie laden goods get in the way but shit happens

May the beautiful, and tone deaf, prosper this evening and may I have a small hangover tomorrow

Mmmmm apple and Carmel - that's my next Pinterest cake. Oh after a minecraft cake for DS3's birthday next week

You appear to have embraced the cake-making ethos rather tea!

Well I'm not so sure about a badge but I did deserve a huge king prawn chow mein....sad thing is I couldn't finish it. I did however find room for a huge very moderately sized blueberry and raspberry sponge.

Hola all! Much needed fast today after a typical weekend.

Have spent non-eating time ( oh the irony! ) reading up on the value of not snacking in between meals to give our digestions a complete break and allow the body to burn fat reserves rather than constant supplies of food fuel. It makes perfect sense to me for non-fasting days and a natural progression of 5:2 as I'm already used to long hours without food. I am a natural snacker, even whilst losing weight, but am aware that it's a better longterm maintenance strategy to knock this habit on the head.

There's a good summary here if any of you are interested:
The dangers of frequent eating

And I've also read a couple of books:
The No S Diet
and
The Leptin Diet

Double - a new car! What did you buy?

Tea looks like the birthday weekend was a hit!

Bssh I should fast but today will be all about staying under 1300. I may fast later in the week as otherwise I may gain on last week and I'd hate that. I'm getting sooo close to being under 150lb and I have exactly 6 weeks to NY where I'd love to be 140lb (I CANNOT believe that is even possible, six months ago I was denying I needed size 18 jeans)

Tea the red top had two outings this weekend, I went for a red bra tart and it looked lovely, thanks again. It is my current favourite thing!

I missed Eurovision completely as it was my brother's 40th and sadly he did not welcome the option of showing it at his party

DH is abroad all week and that's always better for my eating as the only stuff in the house is healthy. I really need to start exercising but am not feeling the motivation at the moment...

Here's to a good chiefly week for us all!

Bssh interesting re the no snacking as there are lots of eating programs that promote the opposite, arguing that lots of small meals keep the digestive system working at all times and avoids binging and therefore overloading ourselves. I think in the past I've subscribed to that view and therefore have just eaten too much. This time I've tried to snack only when I'm genuinely hungry and not as some kind of preventative measure.

Lego that first link (Dangers of frequent eating) made so much sense to me. When I think back, it's snacking that made me put the weight on in the first place. As usual I'm not going to be so strict on weekends but certainly for 80% of my week I will try to only eat at proper mealtimes. Even a carrot in between meals will make my body burn the carrot and not the fat. Makes sense (for me).

Morning Chiefs, did everyone have a good weekend?
My in-laws took us all out for dinner last night, an unexpected surprise! I had a huge bowl of pasta, which was delicious, but way too much. So I am definitely going to have to stick to my fast today.
I also have such bad cramp, the pain made me sick last night and I had to have a hot water bottle strapped to my tummy to get to sleep. Sometimes its rubbish being a woman...
Be back later!

Bssh we are getting a Skoda Octavia. It made our current car (which we are part-exchanging) look like a piece of junk TBH.
Very interesting re. snacking. I am currently thinking about how to reduce snacking in my children as well as me, as I suspect they may have inherited my propensity to put on weight. When they are out, I guess they are distracted so it's not bad but when they are at home it's an almost constant stream of asking for food, and while some is healthy, some isn't. I'm trying to think how to stem the flow without inducing some kind of eating disorder! We don't let them have many sweets, as DD has dodgy enamel on a couple of teeth which didn't form properly in the womb, but really it seems like they want to constantly be eating and this can't be good.

That does make sense Bssh, constantly grazing sounds a bit daft now

Lego, you'll get there, you are doing so well!

Tiger, I too am suffering at the moment and have bitten the bullet and made a GPs appt for today after 6mths+ of procrastinating. There is something awry with my uterus and I am going to fix it! Sick of feeling so ill and drained and having 2 weeks a month of hideous sciatica.

Had lovely (if also menstrual and hormonal) weekend, beat PB at Parkrun by 6 seconds (in the mud and rain) and gymmed lots. Yesterday went to a food fair which was fab and boys really enjoyed it. Had a yummy (if not bit peculiar) dinner last night of Gravadlax, Wild Pigeon breast, salad, and lots of local cheese that we were enticed into buying

Happy Chiefing.

Double Skodas are meant to be excellently made and highly reliable cars so good choice. I am the main snacker in our house - my DH always laughs that when ever he comes home from work I have a bowl of something (crisps or grapes or raw nuts or...) by my side. I'm stricter with my DD who's nearly 5yo. She's allowed to snack (as she's very tiny, no weight issues at all) but only at scheduled times - during the week it's only just after school and in the weekends it one time in the afternoon only (though we're more flexible on long car drives or train journeys).

It's science of snacking that has finally made sense to me - the fact that if I'm constantly feeding my body with even healthy foods it won't ever get a chance (except during fasting or sleep) to burn my fat stores.

Hello all. Yet another indulgent weekend, couldn't really be arsed, logging the details on mfp, so just did quick add calories. All fairly healthy though.
Haven't weighed for a bit, but think my new low I glimpsed around 10 days ago, has disappeared . I do seem to get a good result then relax a bit much, it's so silly! Must do better this week. Am fasting today.
lego our weights sound similar, my best is 147 and tbh, would just be happy around 145 ish, but am sure I am around 152 ish again today.. Let's head for the early 10s together!!
By the way, I have only made about 3 cakes in my entire life, but if I look at pinterest anymore, think I may turn into Mary berry, sooo tempting. Someone recommend me something, tea how was the lemon blueberry thingy?

Thanks for the link Bssh. Made an interesting read. And has reminded me of the importance of fasting today

What you say about your kids Double has prompted me to remember something which I think needs to be taken into account with regard to snacking. And that is body type. There are three basic body types - mesomorph, endomorph and ectomorph. Linky for pictures. Most of our family are mesomorphs and we are able to function without snacking IYSWIM, however we have one lone ectomorph - the body type that is tall and carries no fat at all (DS2) - he has to eat six times a day not just to be able to do the sport he wants to but actually, because he has no fat reserves, to control his behaviour even if he's having a sedentary type of day. I think body type influences your ability to process things too so things like yoghurt (fat), nuts (protein) and bread (carbs) are better suited to different body types in the world of snacking or indeed in building a basic good for life balanced diet. I suspect we chiefs are not ectomorphs naturally, otherwise we wouldn't have had our chiefly status , but it's important to know about them if we do have one in the house.

Personally I've done nothing but snack this weekend I think I am going to have to change my eating patterns and what I eat if I'm going to do a long run once a week. I fasted the day before and ran on an empty stomach but I have paid for it over the weekend because I was so hungry. I think I'm going to have to separate my week out into fasting at the beginning and building up the amount of food I eat to allow me to do the 2.5 hours worth of exercise without crashing and burning for two days after . If anyone has any thoughts on this I'd be really interested in them because I want to continue to get the health benefits from fasting and maintain my weight too.

Tiger and Lizzy hope you're feeling better and good luck with the GP Lizzy.

Yey to PB at parkrun. That's great.

I'm going interval training today.

Lego I think wearing it with nought under was much more tarty and that was my default option with it

dinks It was lovely. It's the one on Pinterest.

BTW I'm not experienced. I'm learning to bake at the moment, I only started really in the last year. I try to do something different every week or two. I'd really recommend the bake off series of books to start because there is variety, some easy stuff and some more technically challenging things. It also does cakes, pies, bread and savoury stuff.

Lizzy, hope the doc can help. Mine usually just lasts half a day but it's been going since last night and disrupted my sleep making me extra grumpy. I'm just hoping its not my age...! Well done on your PB at the Parkrun.

Bssh - I'll need to read the stuff on snacking. I have noticed with the fasting though that I can last much longer without food than I ever thought possible.

Double - a new car, how exciting! our neighbour has an Octavia and loves it.

Lego - Your weekend sounds like fun, and a trip to NY to look forward to, how exciting!

Dinky - Pinterest is too tempting isn't it. I made a carrot cake last week and both kids turned their noses up - I had to take it into school and give it to the other mums so it wasn't in the house tempting me! Lemon blueberry sounds good though (healthy??!) and it is dh's birthday on Thursday...

Tea - That's interesting about the body types. I've noticed my Dh eats completely differently to anyone in my family. He's always snacking but is the same weight as he was when I met him 14 years ago (annoying face!) - I can't tell with the kids yet I'm hoping they take after him though!

I have less than 5 weeks to go till the Algarve. It's the first time we've taken the kids abroad so if anyone has tips on how to keep DD(3) and DS(8) amused on a 4 hour flight plus all the waiting around, please let me know. Also what on earth do I need to pack? I need to do some research I think.

I may have Randalled my arse off on Saturday
It was lots of fun though, plus I now have a fridge full of locally made delicacies!

Fasting was not possible yesterday as I had the post-Randalling hunger so I'm doing it today and tomorrow instead.

Sorry about all the ladies problems going about, sounds seriously unpleasant.

Massively impressed with all you runners and exercisers, you put me to shame.

Here's to a week of losses, onwards and downwards chiefs

Oh to be an Ectomorph, Tea
Tiger, you will look fab on holiday and the dc will LOVE the flight, trust me !
Randall, you will pull it back, no fear.

So gp thinks could be menopause He laughed when I exclaimed "But I was only bloody 40 a few weeks ago!", having a fasting blood test next week to test, erm hormones n shit.
Least I have set ball rolling anyway.

Have ran (badly, was humid and legs of lead) and done some pilates for my core.

Blimey, I had no idea we had to worry about starting to dry up this early

I mean I know it could be worse, and I'm glad there's nothing wrong as such, but bloody hell.

Tea the body types info is very interesting. I will look into that and observe DD closely.

Lizzy the menopause? Oh goodness, well at least you'll have a plan once you know what's what.

Not sure if any of you lurk on the 5:2 threads (main one and maintainers one) but there are quite a few of us now trying out the no snacking between meals thing. Tomorrow is a non-fast day so I will attempt to put it into action. My plan is to leave at least 5 hours completely free of food between meals and, as I have no interest in giving up my goodies (chocolate or crisps or cake etc) to include them as part lf the meal (eg a few crisps with lunch sandwich or a few squares of chocolate straight after dinner as pudding.

Definitely want to take my day's emphasis off food.

I know, bonkers eh?
I mean, my family is complete, no worries there, but still....
Will I have to get a blue rinse and some sensible slacks?..

It's funny Bssh, some days I can sort of forget about food and not crave anything, other days it is all I think about.....