I had my hypno gastric band 'fitted' by Paul McKenna last night...

[lynniep]

...so far so good! Admittedly its not even 11am yet, but I havent eaten my snacks which are sitting on my desk and not even tempting me! Normally I don't allow myself anything till 10am, then I pounce!

I am doing this in conjunction with weightwatchers, which Paul McKenna would not approve of, since he despises 'diet clubs' (boy does this come through loud and clear in his book).

However since I don't know the man personally, and I feel I need the WW sessions for support, I am carrying on with pro- pointing and hoping that my gastric band will provide the backup I need to not binge and eat more than my body needs.

I've been (back) on weightwatchers for several months now and failed miserably because I am both a compulsive eater and a (hopefully) reformed bulimic.

I'd like to think this will help me - and I'm willing to try it because I am now as heavy as I was just after I gave birth to DS2 3 years ago (my heaviest, unless you count when I was 40 weeks pg!)

If anyone is interested I will report back :)

Hi clench I'm approaching menopause. I dint want to gain weight either. And I want to stop having the days when I see myself as " fat". Thing is I'm not fat and never have been but even at size 8 I always felt fat. But to be totally honest my mother and father are to blame for that 100%. My mother wouldn't allow me to eat food unless she gave it to me and they both always said negative things to me.

But of course it's up to me now to not punish myself and its something I have spent a lifetime trying to fix. This method definitely helps you feel better about yourself.

Well,as I've probably known for years, hunger really is all in the mind!! I spent 4 hours gardening yesterday and didn't even realise I'd missed lunch.

Although I think a lot of it is to do with the rules, keeping busy and keeping my mind off food helps.

Clinch hows it going after the "pig out".? When are you inserting your band?

Clench sorry...

Hi Rules I fitted it this morning
I like PM but I really wish he would mix his hypno up a bit sometimes. I've listened to a few of his CDs and bar the subject matter they always follow exactly the same pattern and even the same wording in parts.
So far so good.
I might do the CD again in a few days just to reinforce it.
How are you getting on?

Hi Clench....he he....well you would know more about his hypno style than me. I find him really relaxing and I switch off soon after putting it in my ears then come to when he says "Wake Up". That's ok isn't it?
I put mine in a week ago yesterday and I have listened to him every night. Just the band trance one.....and I have actually lost 4lbs. Proper 4lbs....not water loss or fake reading. Im eating very little but enjoying it all. Its like having a voice in my head that says "your hungry" and then says way before I have finished eating "your done". And I listen. Im aware of what im doing. Sometimes I think that im really hungry and that I will probably eat loads but I start eating and after a good few mouthfuls I just don't want anymore. But like I said I am listening to him every night. I think you yourself said that this is good because it re-enforces the habit more.

Yes I think if you're enjoying listening to the CD then thats a good thing. Hypno is an accumulative thing so the more you listen to it the better really.
It's obviously working well for you too because 4lbs is great, well done!!
Are you enjoying losing weight this way? It's the easiest way to lose weight I've ever done.
How is everyone else getting on?

yes clench I would have to say that at this time it's like losing weight effortlessly....really is. I'm amazed. I don't think about food other than when I'm hungry.

Although I'm following the rules, I still haven't got round to fitting my band again.I'm slightly worried because of its over- effectiveness last time, but feel like I need it to back up the rules.

clench Do you think (generally speaking), that listening to the cd less would give a less dramatic result? Or does it just depend on the person's receptiveness? I used to listen to it every couple of days, mainly because I was worried the effects would wear off.

I had my first BBQ today since starting following the rules again. Instead of the usual meat feast, I just had one burger! No counting, trying to fit it in to my eating plan, or having to starve myself for the rest of the week to compensate.

I listen to it every night Fairy so for me it re enforces this woe every day......and every day I find I don't over eat. Lost 4lbs last week and I eat whatever I want when im hungry. Heres the thing though ...although I only serve myself really small portions....like a quarter of a large plate I sometimes still leave a bit.
How much did you lose each week then Fairy since you think it was too much?

Thank god for this thread! I was seriously considering paying £500 for a hypnotherapist to do this. Just bought the book and will try that instead

Hi jib .....wow...this is definitely cheaper.

Fairy what I would do if you are worried about the effects of the CD being too much for you, if maybe listen to the CD once a week but use Havening every day. That way you can gauge it and see if you need more CD or less. Start off with seeing how the next 7 days go. The advantage with having the CD is you can use it as much or as little as you need.
Havening should keep you on the straight and narrow.
Keep following the 4 rules and see where these next 7 days take you.
I am here if you need me We are doing this together!

HI Jib welcome!
How long have you been doing this?
Wow £500 is a LOT for a hypnotic gastric band or any hypno for that matter!

Rules - yes am really hoping this book will work as if it does I can then spend the money on stop smoking hypnosis

SirRaymond I only just bought the book about 30mjns ago (due to get it Monday). Was sceptical about hypnosis but am desperate so was willing to fork our that money. But thanks to mumsnet I only spend £7!!!!

Silly question but how am I meant to listen to cd? I don't have a CD player. Can I just load it into iTunes and onto my phone?

Jib you can put it in your laptop maybe?
Mine loaded onto my itunes when I did that.
I am a Hypnotherapist so I can promise you hypnosis works

hello all! i've had a busy few days & TBH have been getting really really hungry!! was a bit gazumped by this - was it just that i was to-ing & fro-ing quite a lot so burning more calories (i don't drive so it's by foot or bike) or was it stress as i'd such a lot of whizzing about to do?? my tummy was really feeling empty & growling. i'd taken packed lunch of what i usually eat & it was no nearly enough. but sometimes i ate because i knew i wouldn't get another chance for ages. felt that horrible diet urge to steal food off kids' plates . just starting eating GF (& feel less tired) but it's no as stodgy as wheat-based bread products. not sure if i'm just not used to it yet. my DD2 was performing solo & duet in a dance show at the Royal Lyceum i nearly died of pride!! she's only 9!! but all that backstage excitement took it out of me bigtime (i like people but more on a 1-1 basis) so may have ended up emotionally eating more after it was all done

fairy i'm so happy for you having a good BBQ experience, i've always found that hard when the food keeps coming... well done!

clench i'm sorry you had a gluttonous dinner but at least with Pauling you can get right back on that wagon straight after.

rules well done on your 4lbs! i too have felt myself having a really fat arse day at size 8, i could feel it wobbling across the width of the pavement & knocking people over!! but conversely i've felt thin on size 14 days (until some bastard shouted "awright ten-bellies" ou of a ned-car ) so it's all in the mind, clearly. sorry you had shit to deal with fe what your folks telt you about food, that must be hard. i know my mum looks harshly at fatties but she never transferred that to food, for that i'm grateful. stuff your parents tell you as a child you just accept, as an adult you would probably challenge that but when you're a kid you just think that's the way it is. good for you fighting that. now i just think i'm shit for being fat, not for what i eat hahaha!

jib welcome, i too had considered personal hypnotherapist but at £140 i decided £6.49 PM was better! keep us posted...

very awwww....thanks so much for reading my childhood stuff......My parents actually hadn't talked to me for the last twenty years and have only recently come over from Australia and found me again so that's opened up a lot of old wounds. But my experience has made me a much better parent and for that I am grateful. With regards to your hunger, maybe your body has been needing more food and you have not really been feeding it? Have you tried listening to the gastric cd again? What about his other original cd ICMYT? Have you listened to that? So far for me listening to the gastric cd each night is doing the trick.

And very ....you do make me giggle with the way you tell a story.

aw cheers rules blimey that must've been a big deal seeing them again. i never spoke to my mum for 18months ~6 yrs ago & it was hard enough after that but 20yrs - jeebus!
i'm getting a bit fed up here. i've listened to HGB CD every night bar 1 (when i really needed peace) & still nuffin grrr. i'm now starting to get bored of what he says because it's not true for me, i'm not satisfied by a few mouthfuls etc. in previous weeks i've listened to ICMYT particularly if i wanted a nice positive fluffy feelings boost. last night i ate an entire chinese takeaway (usually would only have half) in front of the telly, not slowly, i did enjoy it & didn't feel bloated after. but i felt like i was racing to get it finished before i felt too full. i'm wondering if i'm sabotaging myself subconsciously because when i was thin i had recurring depression. i was happy too inbetweentimes, but i was very depressed a lot. my antidepressants give me constant appetite which is how i got fat. so while i've been fat, though hating my girth, i've been in relatively good mental health. i don't know how to get past this, could this be why it's no working for me? help!

very its far more important that you are mentally happy, it really is. I remember having depression years ago and panic attacks and it was the worst thing ever and I would never want to go back to that. I didn't take medication but started seeing a hypno therapist and did alot of reading and self help. Got through it a much better person. I think it was connected to me changing from a single woman to getting married and having children. Now I take St. Johns Wort tincture ( not tablets) and that keeps me happy and stable. Think you are not relaxed when you listen to the cd. I couldnt really tell you what he says on the cd. I'm totally spaced out. If you can keep concentrating on counting and if you lose your way start counting again. The counting stops you listening on a concious level so it goes into your subconscious.

rules thanks, yes i agree i would never want to back to how i felt then, such a dark place. i've learnt a lot through CBT, relaxation techniques, challenging depressive/anxious thought patterns etc, & i'm definitely a stronger person for it, for being able to do something about it myself aswell as taking the tablets. so i'd definitely rather be fat & happy than thin & miserable, but even more i'd like to be thin & happy! i'll try to focus on the counting more next time, i had wondered if i was too awake when other posters were saying they just crashed out by 288! i've just done both CDs lying in my backgreen snoozing in the sun, aah soo warm! glad to lie about doing nothing after some gin & a lovely bottle of wine last night

and did you manage to zone out and not here him? From what I learnt from hypno therapy you need to be able to switch off IYKWIM. What about doing more walking like an hour just for you each day. Did you say you used to run on our other thread? It's really nice chatting with you very