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Happy New Year! Happy New Paul McKenna Thread Number 11. Healthy Weight Loss Without Restricting Your Enjoyment Of Food! Come Join The Paulettes For Support And Chat.

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GoodKingWenSOLOslas · 01/01/2013 03:58

Welcome to thread 11 of the Paul McKenna's I Can Make You Thin weight loss system.

The Golden Rules that will aid you on your journey with our like minded support system are:

  1. Eat what you WANT
  2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
  3. Eat CONSCIOUSLY
  4. STOP eating when you are satisfied and full

This weight loss system is about re-educating your body; learning to listen to it and in doing so losing weight and inches. After all, eating a meal is not a competition.

Many people have issues around food. Many of us have been brought up by the 'clear your plate' parents of yesteryear which leave us feeling guilty if we leave even the smallest morsel of food, but we are working through this guilt or any other hang up we might have, and we are learning to leave a bit on the plate; return to it another time if we really want to or even feed it to the dog or the bin!

So!! forget diets; they may work for a while, but they aren't permanent solutions. This is a new way of living for your brand new life!!

The Paul McKenna system really works and is easy to maintain.

I've C&P'd our previous threads links as they are helpful.

Here are the book choices on AMAZON which is all you need to get started! they aren't compulsory, but they do help! it's something to refer to and listening to the cd's can really focus you.

This is the tapping technique EXPLAINED - this can be useful to combat cravings.

You don't have to buy the book and CD, but we have found that they do help and somehow they keep you on track, so it would probably be a good investment and will cost you far less than a couple of trips to WW or SW meetings, so do consider having them in your life.

Please feel free to join us, whether it's 10lbs or 10 stones you want to lose.
We are friendly, supportive and successful, but we're not hungry OH NO we're not!!! so come on in and start living your new life today and make 2013 your year to drop a dress size or several.

OP posts:
Dottiespots · 01/02/2013 22:52

Hi Cowboy......so day 1.Welcome and Well done for trying to change the way you eat. Its not quick but it is something that can be done for life. Whats not to like. There are good days and bad but keeping a diary helps me to see where i go wrong and what was happening that day.
BBB......I do weights and they really are good for contouring your body and shrinking it as the muscle gets bigger and takes up less room in clothes. How much have you lost altogther BB?

CowboyPie · 02/02/2013 00:43

Well, it's the end of my first day. I didn't manage to find time to listen to the cd, thanks to DP being ill and DS being a toddler. There's always tomorrow though!

First day didn't go so badly, I certainly was very conscious of everything I ate and I'm starting to be more in tune with feelings of hunger already. Satiety though, that will be hard, but I did the 'stop as soon as you think you're full'. I suppose 'knowing' when you're full comes with time?

Dottiespots · 02/02/2013 00:54

Hi Cow......ha ha.....that sounds soooo wrong!!!... Feeling truly hungry is the first one to master. For me its that feeling that if i dont get to the kitchen and eat "now" that the world will stop. And as for full.....for me its the feeling that the food just loses its taste. ie....doesnt taste as good as the first couple of bites did. Then i stop. Have been really munchy myself today , hormonal i think. But havnt really eaten alot all told. About 1500 to 2000 cals. Im trying to write down what i eat more as an exercise in my eating habits than counting calories. Realised i ate too many biscuits instead of food so trying to rectify that.

chinhealer · 02/02/2013 02:54

@awsangel - I guess the only aspect about following the Golden Rules which might be unwise for bfing and pregnancy is that I, for instance, have been actively conscious of reducing my portion sizes down to the point where I am pleasantly satisfied on the whole. Or even neutral, sometimes. And on Thursday I went nearly 12 hours without food between breakfast and dinner because I simply wasn't hungry despite being very active and, even, going to the gym for a short cardio workout during that time! Now, I don't think that would be wise for bfing and pregnancy. But maybe, as long as a bfing or pregnant woman listens to her body (and is properly in tune with her body) she will be able to gauge how much to eat and when in a healthy way.

If anyone's interested, I've recently begun a blog to document my experiences following the Four Golden Rules:

cheeriofatty.wordpress.com/2013/02/01/eating-consciously-day-10-a-day-of-no-hunger/

chinhealer · 02/02/2013 03:41

@BBB - I know what you mean. But, actually, if you're doing it right, (ie. heavy enough and slow enough with perfect form) the high intensity weights workout actually makes your heart work harder and in a healthier way than it would doing steady state aerobic exercise and it will leave you feeling like you've run a marathon! It sounds a lot easier than it is. But, mercifully, it is over quickly!

But, unless you are very familiar with the inside of a gym, I would definitely ask one of the gym staff to guide you through this new way of weightlifting initially. (And, it goes without saying that you should make sure your GP is fine with your exercising like this - especially if you have been sedentary for a long time.)

Dottiespots · 02/02/2013 03:42

Chin....I can see what you mean but when breastfeeding I was always hungry in the early weeks anyway so ate more. But generally, after having a baby most of us are carrying extra weight which is there for that very purpose ie so the body can use up the fat stores to keep the milk supply abundant. I breastfed my two for a couple of years each.

HavingALittleFaithBaby · 02/02/2013 09:00

I find the basic principles of PM are compatible with pregnancy but sometimes I find I'm listening to cues from my baby and not just my stomach. I found if I didn't eat enough some days my baby was less active (not good) so I start eating maybe a little sooner than I usually would. I also get to 'very hungry' on the scale more quickly and feel full faster. Obviously I'm not trying to lose weight at the moment, but I don't want to binge and gain tonnes because with a high BMI, I've been told to try to minimise my gain to about a stone. I am very much enjoying the freedom to eat whatever/whenever I feel I need to (absolute Pauling!) and am very happy with my body :)

Welcome to cowboy! Glad your first day went well. I found the easiest time to listen to the CD before bed personally and I feel more relaxed before I sleep!

Cupcake1982 · 02/02/2013 10:31

Hi, I'm new to this sight and just wrote a long message introducing myself and it didn't work for some reason (so hoping this one does :) )
I have been dieting on and off for years and I am bigger than ever so thought i'd give pm a go! I have tried pm in the past and do like it I just need to stick with it!
It is great to find people that have had success with the system!
Do people suggest the new pm book with the gastric band?
Looking forward to getting to know you all :)

TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub · 02/02/2013 12:57

Hi all

Jan is over and I'm back. Except I left my iPod in work so no meditation for me this weekend.

Have decided I need to somehow be more active in day to day life but that means getting up earlier to walk from the station to work. Good luck to me [shocked]

TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub · 02/02/2013 12:58

Hi cupcake

chinhealer · 02/02/2013 15:42

Hi Cupcake (can I call you Cuppy?)
I would suggest giving PM's I Can Make You Thin and his Four Golden Rules as explained in his Gastric Band book a good go for a decent amount of time first. (A month or two?) But you absolutely HAVE to follow the four rules to the letter. And it is essential that you eat away from the TV, reading material, radio and all other distractions. (Including friends and family if at all possible. Or, if others are present, please keep conversation to an absolute minimum. Only then can you truly focus on your food and the signals your body is trying to give to you.) In fact, PM says himself in Gastric Band that if you are unwilling to give up TV when eating, he can't help you! I totally understand, now, why he is so uncompromising on that point.

See how you progress without the gastric band first. I reckon that, with most people, the Four Golden Rules are all that is needed to absolutely transform your relationship with food. I know that's what happened with me two weeks ago.

And I'm beginning to understand why PM is so against the entire diet industry. For the vast majority of people, dieting - in whatever shape or form - does not work in the long-run. Mostly because most people cannot sustain a diet for an entire lifetime and because diets encourage neuroses about certain foods or food groups! But his Four Golden Rules are totally sustainable throughout one's life! And you don't need to deprive yourself of anything. No food is forbidden. I love that aspect of it all!

chinhealer · 02/02/2013 15:45

@awsangel - you deserve to be on some sort of honours list for breastfeeding for so long!

And HavingALittleFaithBaby's insights are very interesting too.

Solo · 02/02/2013 15:51

Boo!! hello all! I'm home for the weekend! crap access to the internet in Rugby, so I've given up trying tbh!

Good news is that I've lost a further 1.5lbs, so another 2lbs and I'm back to 2stones off!! and much nearer to being 12 stone something!

Hello to any new Paulers and to all the regulars.
I am not even going to attempt reading through the bits I've missed because I have so much to get done before driving back up there tomorrow
3 cooked meals a day available to me there, but I'm being very sensible and eating normally....seems to be the right thing to do eh?!

Hope to catch up again soon :)

Dottiespots · 02/02/2013 17:21

Hi Everyone....Cupcake.....I would just read the oringinal I Can Make You Thin book with cd and poss. 90 day journal if you want. The gastric band actually goes against PM original thoughts. He did disagree with hypnotic bands orginally but seems to have jumped on the band wagon with that one and "sold his soul" lol but he also says somewhere that the "band" does not address the underlying issues with disordered eating which ICMYT does.
As Chin says.....all you really need are the four basic rules....the rest is really up to you. But it is a case that you have to really really concentrate when eating till it becomes second nature.
Chin....thanks for the proposed award Grin .
Solo.....Hi.....what do you do away in Rugby ?( being nosy)
Faith......ooooo your date is getting closer and closer. How you feeling.?
Doctrin......Im glad Feb. is here to and the days are getting longer and lighter. Hows the weight going?

Dottiespots · 02/02/2013 20:12

Hey Cupcake.....its meeeee!!!!!

Cupcake1982 · 02/02/2013 21:29

awsangel that just made me laugh! I nearly spat my wine all over my lap top!! :)

Cupcake1982 · 02/02/2013 21:31

Thanks for the lovely welcome ladies and chinhealer cuppy is fine :) x

Dottiespots · 02/02/2013 21:44

O dear....hope lappy is ok.

Dottiespots · 02/02/2013 21:48

You know you said you have been on loads of diets and yet are now even heavier.....well I dont believe in diets. I know deep down that they dont work and that they are just money making companies. You need to find something that you can do for life. If for instance you had lost all your weight and were the weight you wanted to be, how would you continue to keep your weight stable? If you had been on a "diet" then you would probably find yourself binging on all the food that you couldnt eat freely before and before you know it you are back to gaining the weight again. So......if you lost the weight with PM and were the weight you wanted to be and didnt want to regain then eating mindfully as you have done would be the only way to keep it off wouldnt it?

Solo · 03/02/2013 01:02

Retraining to do my job!

Divster · 03/02/2013 10:59

awsangel I was wondering why you suggest the first icmys book? He has updated the 4 times since the first one, just wanted to know your thoughts please Smile

Dottiespots · 03/02/2013 13:49

Divster....sorry not very clear...I just meant the first book ie ICMYT not the Gastric Band one.

CowboyPie · 03/02/2013 17:20

Hello, Paulies, I'm on my third day and checking in.

Yesterday wasn't so great as I ate sweets and a slice of DP's pizza once I was already full. I struggle with feelings of satiety though, so I'm counting it as a plus that I actually recognised the 'full' feeling, even if I did decide to ignore it.

Today has been great. I've had a few cups of coffee when I've fancied them and I didn't want to eat for hours after I first got up because I just didn't need to. I had two slices of garlic bread with cheese, then a can of full-sugar Fanta because I fancied it. Two teeny tiny (really, they're minute-sized and so cute) rich tea finger biscuits and now I've just had 8 jalapeño poppers with BBQ sauce to dip them into, followed by a small creme fraiche fruit pudding. That is hardly ANYTHING compared to what I'd eat before. Right now, I'm satisfied too and genuinely don't want to eat anything else. Does this last? It's amazing!

TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub · 03/02/2013 22:50

Thanks aws, weight is steady which is an achievement for me as I usually comfort eat through busy work times.

Vampygirl · 03/02/2013 23:00

Hi everyone
So I've been Pauling for 5 days, god sounds like some kind of confession! I no mr mc wouldn't approve but I weighed myself today and found myself a few pounds lighter.
Have tried this a few times, got the book a while ago, lost it, got it again, did it a few times, it works. For some reason I always lose about half a stone, feel great, people say ooh your looking thinner, get all smug and eat, a lot. Last week I thought I can either get fatter or do this. Think it's working, tried to eat half a bannoffe pie to, to check it was working of course, but that devil man mind bender has smooth talked me into only wanting a few mouthfuls.
Forgot to say I have done the gastric band thingy this time, tbh I think the golden rules is what works, the hypno band is kinda like someone shouting 'your full your full stop eating' at you. Just makes it easier to recognise the signals but you still gotta follow all the rules of ICMYT. My actual weigh in day is Tuesday so I will keep everyone updated, hope I can get my head round doing it for more than a few weeks this time