When shall we three meet again? The not quite NT, not quite weightloss thread ......

[moosemama]

We were full up ladies, so we finally have our very own weightloss-ish thread!

Always on a friday... Maybe you do need to think about getting a routine appt to check this stuff out? (and maybe with a doc who has slightly more knowledge about possible neuro symptoms than blowing on a bit of paper... Which is still baffling me, tbh. I have no idea how or why that particular diagnostic 'test' makes any sense at all..). I would start keeping (you know what I'm going to say) a diary though.

Kind of makes sense that it all happening now - they are all tired at the end of the year etc, but worrying as this so many incidents in such a short space of time...

I feel better today, less likely to burst into tears at any given minute! Last night was really busy as it was the dd's dress rehearsal for their dance show tomorrow, so I spent four hairs getting everyone in and out of costumes and redoing hair etc. gave me something else to think about anyway! I did have pizza and a glass of wine last night though. Homemade with lots of veggie toppings, but pizza nevertheless! Bought lots of salad for lunch though. And cherries. V excited that it is moving into soft fruit season here! (even if we did get four inches of snow on Saturday!)

Dd1 got up to get in the shower this morning and got a nose bleed. It bled on and off for an hour and a half, so I told her not to stress to catch the bus and I would take her. That's about the fifth this week. She gets them in the night, first thing in the morning, and when she goes to bed. I'm going to have to get her an appt too - it's only a minor thing, but the child bleeds constantly and it is areal pita. It disturbs her sleep as well, not good.

No time to exercise today, going to visit a ranch this afternoon to see if they are willing to partner one of our not for profits to provide therapeutic riding. and this morning I have a lot of admin stuff to catch up on (including making an appt with psych no. 1) psych no. 2 didn't call. I wonder if she discussed it with psych no.1 yesterday and they are having a row about how to proceed?

Good luck lollipop! I'm sure your show will be awesome! If you ever want to come and make a film about adaptive skiing and winter sports (including VI) in the beautiful Canadian Rockies, you know where I am! (we are currently making a promo for fundraising)

Apparently the paper thing's a well known diagnostic test (here).

I have already started noting anomalous episodes in the diary and I have this thread to look back on which is also good for fleshing out the details.

Spoke to his teacher today (not her fault she didn't catch me yesterday, as she was dealing with a major 'incident' - whatever that was - in the infants). She said they haven't noticed anything in school, but then he was decidedly odd when we were both speaking to him after school and she didn't appear to notice.

Glad you are feeling better today. I think you were very well deserving of pizza and wine last night. Dd is loving cherries at the moment - she cleaned my mum's fridge out of them at lunchtime today - along with about a million blueberries.

Interesting you should mention about your dd's nose bleed. My other niece has been beside herself because her 3 year old (4 next week) has been having nigh on constant nose bleeds for a couple of weeks now. He bleeds to the extent that he saturates his top, his mum's top and several cloths. The bleeds last over an hour each time, with the longest being over two hours. There are some other concerns, he's pale, exhausted and catches everything going around at nursery, is skin and bone, despite eating like a horse, plus has been falling over a lot. She's desperately tried to get him a GP appointment, but they keep telling her it will be weeks. She finally panicked and called the paramedics when he had a particularly bad one last weekend, only to be told off for calling them, despite the fact she was home alone, with no phone credit and no money to get him from the village to OOGP or A&E and he was bleeding heavily for two hours. Dsis wanted to take her to the walk-in centre with him, but her dh refused to lend her the car. He needs to be seen by a paed, there are just too many odd things going on and we're all concerned there's something underlying it all.

Honestly, my family are dropping like flies!

sorry your DS had a bit of an episode again today, agree with madwoman about getting him re-checked out. Have had a look at the link re paper test- an eh mixed with wtf - surely you can't trigger absence seizures in a 100% guaranteed way by hyperventilation (and would that even be ethical?) mind you wiki seems to think hyperventilation is a reliable test and would trigger over 90% of them.

could it possibly be something else, like vertigo - just your description reminded me of my very rare vertigo attacks - its like the world suddently starts to tilt and it's hard or impossible to balance.

Ah. That would explain why I had to hyperventilate whilst having anactual EEG, but doesn't really give you an idea of the accuracy of a) using a bit of paper to blow in to induce hyperventilation, or b) percentage of absence szs ( or other szs) that are triggered by hyperventilation.

I've had what was supposed to be benign positional vertigo and it does sound quite similar (and am now a bit as I hadn't thought of that the other day at work).

I'm all for a simple solution, but I'm not sure if I'd be appeased personally by blowing on a bit of paper. But then I guess I haven't had 7 years of medical training to convince me...

TLP, that's just reminded me. We've all had an odd ear thing over the last month or so that had fluidy ear symptoms as part of it. Ds2 had it first and then ds1 had it about a fortnight-ish ago. Worth getting his ears checked as something like Labrynthitis might explain at least some of the symptoms.

Cross posted. I know what you mean madwoman, I wasn't at all comfortable with it, especially as ds coughed twice while he was doing it, so didn't actually hyperventilate at all.

Monday! Soooooo, did you get his ears checked? Quiet weekend with no more recurrence?

Psych no. 2 called me and made an appt to go over history. Better late than never, eh? Psych no.1's sec is also going to call me this morning to make an appt.

I have been maxed all weekend with dance shows, and worked yesterday, leaving dh to do the final show on his own. it all seems to have been fine, dd1 won an award for tap, and dd2 managed amazingly on the stage (so proud of her!). This week is bring a friend week, and then dance is ooooover. I thought it was over already, but have had the 'bring a friend' dropped on me.

On Friday I was called out of the blue to see if I wanted a job interview (I applied a while back and hadn't heard anything). It's quite a good job, though, so I'm going to go anyway, and I do seem to have exactly what they are looking for... And it would be miles better pay! So, tomorrow I have another job interview. Dh desperately wants me to get it. If I do it will disappear my summer completely. Swings and roundabouts! It's all in the timing! (my timing is always abysmal- dh still hasn't got over the fact that I've taken a summer seasonal job, which means paying out for childcare...)

And I have to say, those jeans were annoying me all weekend as the waist band is too loose! I was hoiking them up the whole time - I need a belt!

No, we didn't get his ears checked, as we'd only have got him into out of hours if it was something acute. Also, we had a complete mare of a day with him on Saturday over transition and the blooming campervan of all things. Once he'd let it all out on Saturday he seemed much more here and with it on Sunday, although still very pale and tired.

No more 'episodes' over the weekend that we saw, but at bedtime last night he came to tell me that he was in his bedroom and felt as if the world suddlenly slipped sideways. He said he tried to push against it the other way, but couldn't stop himself and fell over. I think that has added weight to the balance/ears thing rather than anything scarier.

Unfortunately he's had a bit of a rough day today, as a girl in his class had two epileptic fits, the second of which needed paramedics and the lot and she was sitting by him when it happened. His teacher said he was terrified and obviously extremely distressed and affected by it. That, plus being attacked by one of ds2's friends in the playground at lunchtime hasn't made for a good day - again.

I received a letter from the GP this morning effectively telling me off because ds1 was taken to A&E in May and ranting on about how much A&E visits cost them and the taxpayer. They picked the wrong time to do it, as I was just going through lots of statement/appeal stuff and was already in a really bad mood, so grabbed the phone and called them straight away. I pointed out that, not only was he not in my care when he was taken to hospital, he actually had a nasty head injury that the medics said needed to be properly checked out, so they had no reason to write to me, as OOD wouldn't have been an option, even if I had been the person in charge of him at the time. FGS, he was triaged and passed through to see a paed, rather than being patched up and sent home, so the hospital obviously thought it was a legitimate visit. They said there are no notes on mine or ds's file and they can't explain why I received the letter (which was also unsigned ).

I have had this before when NHS direct called an ambulance based on my symptoms, assuming I was having a heart attack. Dh called for OOGP, but they insisted of calling an ambulance, who then came did an ECG and were extremely rude to me. They told me I had indigestion when in fact I had a trapped gallstone and for all they knew could've had pancreatitis. Gastro was livid when I told him, as he said gallstones are one of the worst pains known to man and that NHS direct were right to call an ambulance as in the worst cases, the symptoms are indistinguishable from a heart attack without an ECG. I got a letter from the GP telling me off for wasting ambulance time and threatening to charge if it happened again - even though it was the NHS and not us that called them.

Well done to your dancing dd's, not long till you can breathe a sigh of relief and put dancing to bed for another school year.

Good luck with the interview. I'll keep everything crossed for you.

Get you - needing a belt. You deserve it, you have worked so hard to lose those inches.

I on the other hand can feel my clothes getting tighter with every meal. Dh and I made a pact yesterday that we are going to ease back into healthy eating starting this week. We both feel bleugh now, after a few weeks of eating all manner of rubbish and are ready to get back on track now.

Whoa - super post!

there was a snotty note in our GP newsletter about too many visits to A & E, must be part of some cost cutting exercise to harangue patients about being too expensive!

glad to hear good news on the weight front and job front!

Hello everyone.

So, 2 days ago I weighed in at my heaviest ever :(

Yesterday and today I've been very careful (had a treat earlier - pancakes and ice cream, yum!) but have been eating salad and fruit all day. According to MFP, because of walking round town and gaining some extra calories, I still came in under my daily goal :)

I weigh every morning, just to keep tabs, and after yesterday's very good day, had dropped half a kilo, so whether the one from Saturday was a weird reading, I don't know. I can't lose half a kilo in a day, surely?

Anyway, off out with DBF tomorrow, not sure where we're going but I'm determined to be good - if it's the cinema, he can have the popcorn, I'll have...

Erm...

I dunno. Water, maybe?

Hi LV, see that heaviest ever reading as your baseline, your rock bottom, that anything from now on is going to be an improvement.

I don't entirely understand the science of it, but sometimes salty food etc can make you retain water, so you look like you put on weight, when you haven't. THis is partly why it's not recommended to weigh in daily (but I usually do too , as weight and water etc fluctuates from day to day.

I typed a really long reply to your NHS post, moose, and it isn't here... No idea whether I posted it on the wrong thread, or what!

Totally agree with the salt thing. And I crave it more if I eat something salty, so it's a totally vicious circle. I'm trying to avoid it completely as I know what happens!

things not looking great re my work, but don't want to risk discussing on a public site!

glad you are enjoying your job and drinking more water. fingers crossed with your interview today.

dare I ask is there any particular instrument your DS has an affinity for? IM very limited E,violins are difficult but not that big and dont have high running expenses (just the odd string and resin), whereas wind instruments tend to need various odd bits replacing, reeds and the like. keyboard with earphone socket may be a good idea

He wants to play trumpet.

Trumpet, I tell you.

To be honest, it makes v little difference - we live in an open plan two bed apartment. We're all going to live every single note with him...

Bummer on the work thing, tlp. Friend found out last week and so is desperately searching. She's been doing contract work as a technical writer from home for ten years, and the thought of having to go somewhere to work as an employee is causing her some sleepless nights.

Gosh madwoman, you sound like you're meeting yourself coming back you're so busy. Glad your job is going ok, with the bonus of helping with the healthy eating.

Will keeping everything crossed for the other job for you.

Suppose it could be worse though - Violin? Drums? I like TLP's idea of keyboards with a headphone socket.

Ds2 has had his viola for a year now, due to some local musical inclusion scheme. Fortunately he's not interested enough in it to practice at home very often.

TLP, sorry to hear things aren't good on the work front. Hope you can get it sorted.

One of the very few perks of my health is that I don't work anymore - of course the flipside is that we are beyond broke. It's not too bad when dh has some freelance stuff going on to top us up, but things have been very thin on the ground on that front this year. I'd love to find something I could do part time from home, just to top up our income and take the strain off a bit. We are a couple of hundred pounds short most months and that tends to add up month on month, so when we do get some freelance pay or a windfall we end up using it to pay off the overdraft. Constant vicious circle that can't change until I find a way of getting an income.

Food wise, I have been doing much better this week, no snacking, lovely big salads for tea and drinking more water. Still not doing any exercise though.

On the downside, I've had some new neuro symptoms, which upset me quite a bit, mainly because they are text book MS really. Yesterday was a baaad day, but have been more positive today and managed to get a few things done. Onwards and upwards I suppose.

New symptoms? You sooooooo know what I'm going to say, so I won't.
That sounds really rough.

Have you had any response from your letters re statement?

Lunch interesting. Food great but friend in a bit of a state, this job thing seems to have shaken her up. She's a card carrying AA member who's done rehab, and has to keep a really tight hold on her anxieties, and she is definitely struggling. Not enough to relapse, but enough to be visibly noticeable. She's had quite a bit of interest from recruiters though - three different companies called her to ask if they could put her forward for the same job, so they must all think she is a great match. Hopefully something will come up, but that will still mean she's freaked about worked outside of the home...

Funny you should mention the skint thing. It popped into my head this morning when I was fretting about having messed up on the wages question, that this would make one hell of a difference, however much it turned out to be... I loathe being skint.

Lol madwoman. Yes I know, new symptoms but still not a major event, so not calling just yet.

Nope, not a dickybird re statement. If we haven't heard by next Tuesday (which will be 2 weeks from the day I hand-delivered the letter) we are following it up with a legal type - 'you are denying us our legal right to appeal by refusing to finalise' - letter.

Your poor friend, it's awful going through job stuff like that, as you have so little control. I really hope something comes of the job she's been asked to apply for.

My younger sister is just about to resign after taking her employer on and eventually finding she didn't have the strength to see a tribunal through (mainly because the employer has pushed her beyond the bounds of human endurance and sanity). It's affected her so badly. She's gone from super outgoing and confident to a virtual recluse and is constantly anxious and tearful. She lives in London and is almost certainly going to have to leave her lovely flat and have to go back into studenty shared accommodation, which is the last thing she needs in her current state and she's brokenhearted about it. I really feel for her, because a similar thing happened to me in my second ever job. We tend to give too much to our employers in our family and end up taken for granted and pushed to give more and more until we crack. Some sort of life lesson in there for us all methinks, although I think I finally got the balance right in my last job - albeit 10 years ago!

I am statementing again today - going to try and rewrite the damned thing from scratch the way I would like it to be and clearly referencing the evidence/reports. Hoping my brain will work better today than it did last time I tried and ended up in tears on frustration.

Oh bless you. Fortify yourself as required, and try to er some fresh air as well periodically to clear your head.

Psych first thing this morning, then fundraiser all day, so going to be manic here! At least I can get it all off my chest with her this morning and then keep myself busy all day to stop thinking about it!

re:new symptoms - head says - yes, phone/e-mail neuro this minute, heart says - give you time for you to feel ready to do it. so I that averages out as a bit of a manly tap on the shoulder.

Yes, sad to see so many job woes around us, like your poor sister, Moose and your poor friend, Madwoman. Hope things work out for both of them.

Enjoy your manic day Mad (and ahem interesting choice of trumpet...)

re:the diet stuff - 12 stone 5.5 this morning, which isn't too bad as not been doing as much exercise as usual - had a nasty allergic reaction to a bite on my leg last week, so was resting it and feeling sorry for myself! but need to try and get it down further. I need to lose about a stone more, as I'm not optimistic about this winter/Xmas and maintaining.

Thanks madwoman.

Have made a good start on the statement, currently typing all the identified needs into a huge table and lining up evidence for provision alongside each one. Am then going to do another column with what I want quantified and specified and why. Hoping having it lined up against all the evidence will be a good way to present it.

Have had to hand number all the SA reports as only the EP bothered to number her report, so cross-referencing is a nightmare. Can't say much for the spelling, grammar or punctuation either. The school report is the worst. I know my typing on here can be dreadful sometimes, but I always make sure I do things properly for reports and correspondence etc. Funny thing is, they haven't put in any full stops or capital letters and those are both things they say ds needs support with.

Good luck with the psych.

We are into full-one summer fair and end of year fundraising mayhem as well. I hate this time of year, but obviously not as much as ds1 does.

Cross posted.

Thanks for the manly tap TLP. and woo hoo for 12 stone 5.5 - well done! You'll be overtaking me at this rate, although I am too scared to weigh-in so have no clue what my current weight is.

I am 11.12. I can't decide if if that's okay because I know I'm smaller, or I'm pissed off because it means I am just not doing enough and need to make more radical changes and stick at it. I haven't weighed for a week or two and as I noticed I was smaller I was kinda hoping I would have dropped.

Today I am absolutely knackered. I also have a ranch meeting at 9am to discuss therapeutic riding, and then another meeting at ten to empty all of the cupboards in the guide hall and sort everything out ready for next year.

Psych came at 9 yesterday, and I thought she would be here for about an hour. She stayed for three. So I was already two hours late for the fundraiser, and knew it was going to be pointless going at that point, as it would have been entering the 'sit around for hours and wait for 4pm' period, so decided to stick at home and wait for the kids and just veg. I'll put an update on the other thread, but ultimately she does want to go ahead with this plan, but she sees more as a handing over of responsibility to him, with concomitant removal of 'stuff' if he doesn't take on the responsibility he needs to. She isn't going to deal with the actual bed wetting (I expressed my concern that I didn't want him punished for something he couldn't control) but she still wants him to face up to the realities of what the bed wetting means, which is that, at 10, it is unacceptable to lie in sodden sheets and read a book. S she has a whole set of non-compliance stuff which eventually means he is left with nothing, not even a bedroom door.

We discussed a lot that he is a bit of a conundrum because he is all over the place in terms of development - way ahead in some areas, and like a 4yo in others, so he will need lots of support and he will need to know that it isn't him, we love him, etc, but that he needs to learn different behaviours in order to function better as a 10yo.

It's tricky. She 's also pretty certain that he will dig his heels in and it will get worse before it gets better, but she's going to be doing a lot of work with him in the interim.

I'm kind of only half way through processing it all in my head, so I'm not v clear about it at the mo, iykwim. Haven't quite got to lucid!