Paul McKenna's Successful Eating Thread (part 5)

[SoloIsAHotCougar]

The Golden Rules that will aid you on your journey with our like minded support system:

1. Eat what you WANT
2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
3. Eat CONCIOUSLY
4. STOP when you are satisfied

I've C&P'd part 4's links as they are helpful.

Here is the book on AMAZON which is all you need to get started!

This is the tapping technique EXPLAINED - this can be useful for cravings.

Please feel free to join us

Welcome scalehopper. Just one thing - if you chewed it twenty times and really concentrated on savouring the taste and texture you might find that cheese is really gross not what you actually fancy after all

FAB I cannot do that. I cannot think about it that much, i get taken over by an imoulse/need to eat and I get pissed off when I am not eating, like right this very second, I am massively pissed off and I won't feel better until I have had chocolate.
That probably sounds really pathetic, but that's how it is, how it has alwas been and looks like how it always will be.
maybe I should jut accept that I am fat and be done with it

Not at all. I have been where you have and thought fuck it, life is too short to care about a few more pounds. Then I thought about how unhappy I am at the weight I am.

I am being rather sold here, Silvery, but I am volunteering to always be here if you want to talk rather than eat food you know you don't need.

You think you will feel better if you have chocolate. Why? Is it because you get a genuine warm hug when you have it or is it because you want to feel in charge if a piece of sugar, cocoa, etc all moulded together. So you eat the chocolate. it doesn't know or care what it is or what it is meant to do. While you feel crap that you have given in, again, when you were not hungry.

Go and have some chocolate now but savour it, enjoy it and tell yourself next time it will be a conscious decision to eat it as you will be hungry.

Thanks FAB
I do genuinely feel better when I have chocolate, it does give me that warm loving feeling .............until I allow y thoughts to drift to guilt. But then I feeel guilty, I feel fat and horrid so then I punish mmyself by eating more shit to feel better again and so the cycle continues.
I don't know what to do, this was great at first, I did really well, but then with each slip-up I started to think, well no big deal, then it turned into no big deal iykwim.

So have the chocolate but have a smaller amount of the really good stuff. If you are going to have a treat at least make it worth while!

*Flo and Niecie!!!^ Goodness! I hope you both straighten yourselves (and Dd flo) up soon. Have a ((hug)) from your buddy here!

Dc's have throat infections, but I've not been to doc's yet (been in bed for most of the day). Dc's off school fighting trying to get well.

Am hungry now, so off for some soup! Maybe catch you all later.

Not sold but bold.

Evening everyone :)

Fab - please take this as the compliment it is intended as. That is the most wise and sensible post I have ever seen from you on MN. :)

Today has gone well - and DH has begun to follow the rules a little. We were both dithering over seconds of dinner (macaroni cheese, a house favourite), and decided that we weren't hungry so the leftovers are in the fridge. Progress :)

Silvery - can you draw a line and start again? Yes you are the same weight as when you started, but you are no heavier. Where might you be if you hadn't tried to Paul at all?
WRT the chocolate, I get it. I love chocolate, it is wonderful stuff. That loving feeling you get from it - can you get it from anywhere/anything else? Because maybe it is that feeling you are craving rather than the chocolate itself?

Hi everyone, have been lurking for a while and want to give this method a try. I want to lose a bit of weight (probably no more than a stone), but mostly I want to be in control of my eating and not have my life ruled and dominated by food the way it is at the moment.

Tried to 'start' this a couple of days ago actually, yesterday went quite well (though it's a bit difficult for me to tell when I'm hungry or not, because I'm so out of the habit of listening to my body that way, have been either dieting or binging/overeating for years), today it started well then all went wrong because of an unexpected social situation where I had to eat to be polite even though I wasn't hungry, felt all angry and ashamed afterwards as though I'd ruined everything and ended up eating a whole packet of biscuits and two chocolate bars...I know it's illogical but that's how my mind works sometimes. I wish I could just be 'normal' about food :(

Silvery - I get a massive endorphin rush from overeating. I seriously get a physical high. It is very addictive and I struggle with that most. I miss the feeling when I am not binge eating. I get a similar (but not as intense) high when I do intense aerobic exercise. The only other thing that comes close is the boxing I was doing yesterday! I even feel the high when I am cramming cake into my mouth and the tears are rolling down my face.

Overeating is my crack. I therefore struggle to stop. I am as addicted to overeating as I was to cigarettes (and at some points alcohol). What I am trying to do at the moment is accept it and just gradually improve things. I miss the high but I infinitely prefer the calmer version of myself that shines through when I am in control of food.

Regardless of how I may come across in my posts, I have not got this sussed in the same way as some others on here. I am however trying to see that I am worth making the effort for. And I am slowly getting happier and a little slimmer. I look back on decades of dieting and I just think what huge waste of precious life.

Please give yourself a chance.

Ephiny - you'll get there. This is a far better start than any diet. Well done for being aware of what is going on. This thread is a great place for support. Just take things a meal at a time.

Thanks nora. I think I'll copy and paste that post to a word document so I can read it again and again. It's actually brought tears to my eyes.
Thank you for sharing that.
Big un-mumsnetty hug to you. X

No probs, Silvery.

In the meantime, if anyone needs cheering up, have this little gift from me. Very sweary but painfully funny.

Solo - sorry you aren't well. They are a bugger these summer cold or virus things, aren't they?! What is going on at the moment - everybody seems to have them in some form or another. Stay in your bed, stay warm and get well soon.

Thanks for your kind words re my arm. I am not on a par with Flo's DD though - I haven't broken anything like she has, poor little mite. What an awful thing to do. I do, however have a bruise that has caused the rest of the family to take a sharp in take of breath and wince. It is a corker!

Silvery - I get the chocolate thing too. Sometimes it is the only thing that will do. So much sympathy with your struggle and the effort it takes to change years of habit and programming. I know exactly where you are coming from.

Good news: Have lost 7lbs
Bad news: Celebrated with a multipack of milkyways
WHY?????

I find this method really easy most of the time, but like lots of you once I have had a taste of something nice I just keep going til it is gone. If anyone finds my self-control, please send it back. Big reward would have been offered in confectionary if I hadn't eaten all the chocolate

Tired and off to bed, finding it hard keeping up with everyone but sending well vibes to Solo and DCs and to babyflo and sending positive, because you're worth it in the style of Cheryl Cole style vibes to everyone else. Nora I get the same physical high, I can go without food all day and then will actually look forward to stuffing my face til I feel sick, can't work out why because I get no pleasure from it at all! Trying to recreate that high using no food...

Silvery and everyone else struggling at the moment...Stay with us here and we will try to help keep you encouraged, supported and focussed.

Quite often, I just couldn't get into the zone and would binge, eat far too much and far too quickly; have to eat all the cake that I'd bought for the Dc's for a treat (and the poor sods get very little as it is) and feel really despondent about it all and myself. Suddenly though, I cracked it. No idea how or why, but I did and I now find many of my absolute favourite foods unbearably sickly and can eat only the tiniest amount of it ~ if any.
Please don't feel like you've failed or let yourselves down; it just hasn't quite popped into position yet; it may take a little time to have it all fall into place, but when it does? you will get your high with the feelings of control around food you'll suddenly find you have. Seriously! I am amazed at myself and you'll discover that feeling for yourselves too...

Oh! and we want you here, because those of us that are already on our way will eventually become less frequent posters on these threads and you will be giving the support each day instead of us as you lose your unwanted lbs :)

Thank you all for the well wishes.

DingDong, well done on the 7lbs. I have no answer as to WHY??? re the Milky Ways, but maybe just try celebrating with one next time? but only if you are hungry

Ephiny, I'm sure that many of us began that way, but as nora says...'you'll get there' so be kind to yourself and start to listen to your body and you definitely will get there.

Hope everyone is safe now.

Oh and I've thought of the next thread title!

We're Going Down On Paul McKenna Well, I thought it was funny...

solo

Solo with Silvery !!!!

Well done on the huge loss Dingdong.

I totally understand the issues some of you are struggling with. I am so much an all or nothing person. I have had to go along the nothing line, then when I feel totally in control of myself I seem to be able to have just one piece of chocolate, just one biscuit, a small bit of cake etc. I dont know when this happened, or how, but it will come if you keep going. We have all struggled on here. Thank you all for being so honest here. I am finding it really helpful myself to read that I am not the only one with these issues.

I hope everyone has a better day today.

nora That link is hilarious! I am in floods of tears and I haven't even hit page 2 yet!

Thanks shrinkingnora and Solo for the words of encouragement. I guess it'll take me more than a couple of days to break old habits and get the hang of this properly!

Not hungry this morning after yesterday's overeating, so am holding off on breakfast (unheard of for me!) until I feel like I actually want it. Normally I'd force myself to eat it because eating breakfast is the 'right' thing to do - but that's not the Paul way...

Very encouraging to see how well many of you are doing, both with the weight loss and with feeling more in control around food :)

Stickwithit thanks the exam went well thanks, but my tummy started rumbling about five minutes in. I'm not sure if it was nerves or something as I was not at all hungry when I left home. Luckily I finished the exam early and left before it got too bad - I was in quite a small room with about ten people so I felt really guilty for disturbing people. Hopefully I'll manage to be hungry before my next ones. Only eight more to go! :)

Dingdong well done on your loss, that's fantastic! And congratulations to any one else who I have forgotten

I hope everyone who is injured or ill makes a speedy recovery.

SilveryMoon sorry to hear you're struggling but hopefully you'll soon have a bit of a break through and things will get easier :)

Solo - at your thread title. That wasn't an image I wanted in my head this soon after breakfast.

Dingdong - Well done on your loss. You must be feeling great.

Hectic morning here. Just had a skip delivered so we plan to spend the weekend dejunking the house. Not sure our little skip will be up to the job the state the house and garden are in. At least we will be active!

Not looking forward to next week, well I like have the DSs home but other than that school hols are always hard on the eating and any attempts to weigh less. The DSs need feeding regularly so I end up eating more than usual too plus we go out and end up having picnics or ice creams or tea and cake somewhere. I shall just have to man up a bit and not give in so easily, I suppose.