Will WLI work if I don’t experience “food noise”?

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I am seriously considering WLI, as I have a lot to lose, but have been hesitant, as I’m nervous about side effects. My sister has lost a fair amount on them and I was talking to her about it. She said the best thing for her has been that the injections have got rid of the food noise. But I don’t have that, never have. Has anyone else used WLI and not had food noise issues? Is it still effective?

Do you generally feel full when you've eaten? Food noise was only half of it for me. I realised that I hardly ever felt full. MJ has changed both for me. So now I eat less because I quickly feel full.

Yes, certainly feel full with dinner, which is my main meal. Not so much with breakfast, which is usually a couple of slices of toast - or lunch, which is sandwich and an apple.

Give it a whirl. I didn't think it would work for me, but it did. I'm the sort of person that never feels full, so I was sceptical of the claims it helped you feel full, because I would continue to eat even when I was so full I was ready to pop. It did silence food noise for me, but that's only part of what it does.

Is that all you’re eating on a daily basis? If so, it might be worth having some bloods done to rule out other causes of weight gain first (thyroid, menopause, etc)

Yes it will still be effective for you. The lack of interest in food and the resultant lack of mental chatter about it is a side effect really of the slowed digestion and changes in hormone levels. Those will still be happening to you, and still reducing your appetite and making you feel fuller for longer and get fuller quicker.

There’s definitely some snacking too along the way, but not a lot. And I don’t drink alcohol. Other people remark that I don’t eat excessive amounts and I do feel that I’m fatter than I should be, considering what I do actually eat/drink.
I’m several years past the menopause and the weight gain has definitely got worse over the years since then and is concentrated on the belly. I get little or no exercise. I have problems with my feet, knees and hips, which is partly why I want to lose weight. I am not aware of having thyroid problems.

I'm just not hungry anymore. I just don't feel like eating.

Food noise was the whole of my problem. That and emotional eating.
Ive lost half of my body weight in two years and it squashed my food noise enough for me to stop over eating.
I had zero side effects.
Now Im slim I feel so happy that I think I can control my eating but if I need to stay on a low dose forever I will.

I’m the same. I don’t get food noise and often have one meal a day, in the evening. Or I might have some cereal in the morning and then an evening meal. But I am very overweight, and not much seems to shift the pounds.

If you experience food noise, only eat once a day and are still obese then something doesnt add up Im afraid.
You are clearly over eating and kidding yourself that you are not.
I stuck to 1200 calories a day for two years and very strictly counted those calories losing 2 pounds a week.
I could not exercise at all as I was bedbound having major orthopedic surgery but Im exercising and doing weights now.
GLP1s do other things too such as regulating blood sugar and slowing digestion to make you feel fuller longer which helps to get the weight off but if you dont count your calories you wont lose any weight.
You need to exercise too or you will bet muscle wastage.

I don’t have food noise. I’ve always had a small appetite, rarely snack, and don’t drink much.

But I have hypothyroidism and put weight on in peri.

I have been on a very very low dose of MJ for the past 10 weeks and lost over a stone, all my belly fat, no longer have any peri symptoms and feel and look great.

It is really effective at reducing inflammation and improving insulin resistance.

@Gettingbysomehow the OP says she has breakfast, lunch and dinner, That’s 3 meals a day.
@Trumptontown the OP is having 3 meals a day - nothing to see a doctor about?
“feel full with dinner, which is my main meal. Not so much with breakfast, which is usually a couple of slices of toast - or lunch, which is sandwich”

If you don't have food noise what is it that causes you to over eat?

If you aren't feeling that constant hunger leading to constant eating , how are you fat? I dont mean that rudely. But the main reason the jags help is that they moderate apetite. If yours isn't out of control, how are you actually over weight and how would they help you?

Before WLI I wouldn’t have said I had food noise, but omg I totally did! I just didn’t recognise it as to me that was normal. MJ has definitely given me something I didn’t have. I lost 5 stone and kept it off going on 2 years now. I still take a small maintenance dose.

That's what I wondered. People get overweight because they eat too much.

OP you mention snacking. Are you being honest with yourself about the amount of calories you are consuming in snacks? You say you don't get food noise, so could you just not snack?

You could also think about eating more food for breakfast and lunch if you're hungry in the morning and at lunchtime and you'll probably not feel the need to snack and be OK with less food for dinner if your breakfasts are more filling and better quality, so eggs or Greek yogurt, nuts and berries for breakfast, proper protein and veg lunch (leftovers are good for this if you don't have time to cook at lunchtime) instead of toast and sandwiches, which are less satisfying.

Once you start, it will dawn on you how much you have been overeating. I hope to never be obese again purely because this drug has given me much needed perspective on portion sizes & snacks.

I don't have food noise and never ate a lot, although I drink more alcohol than i should. I ate low carb too apart from my weakness which was a mid-afternoon small bag of crisps from a multipack most days - 100 calories or so of delicious evil.

MJ works for me. It's not about food noise or feeling fuller for longer. It's the hormonal aspect that allows my body to process food normally, like I used to when I was younger, could eat what I wanted and was always slim.

3 pregnancies and I lost most of the weight afterwards just fine. I was happy being an 8-10 after children rather than a 6.

I only put on weight in my late 30's to 40's, when something changed in me. I developed an autoimmune disease in my 30's requiring a combination of medication including a long period of steroids, and needed a hysterectomy (ovaries retained). Within a couple of years my weight wouldn't stop going up until I started on MJ at 228lb. I've lost 100lb since.

I do eat less, but I can now have a small sandwich instead of salad for lunch, or have a spoon of rice with my dinner instead of just protein and a plate of green veg. MJ helps my body process carbs normally again. I sometimes have the bag of crisps too, but that only crept back in after I lost the weight a year ago.

My joints and feet hurt less within a couple of weeks, not due to weight loss as I could only have been 10lbs down but as the inflammation reduced. I even stopped taking my autoimmune medication 2 years ago as MJ helps with that condition too.

This is my concern. I think my ‘overeating’ or maybe ‘wrong eating’ must be too much bread (breakfast and lunch) and too big a portion for dinner. My mid morning snack is something like a cereal bar and my mid afternoon snack is crackers or some Greek yogurt with granola and fruit. I adore cake, but wouldn’t have it more than once a week (unless it’s someone’s birthday and I’ve made one, so it’s there in house for a few days, but that’s not routine). Occasionally (maybe twice a week) I might have a small bowl of crisps or nuts in the evening. I don’t drink much water (rarely thirsty except when it’s really hot), but about 4-5 mugs of tea a day. I like it strong and milky, so I guess the milk (semi-skimmed) adds calories. I don’t eat meat.
As I said, I get barely any exercise, due to pain when walking. Up until 18 months ago, I did a decent walk (45 mins or so) 3-4 times a week. I was still overweight then, though. I don’t walk fast or get a sweat on, so I don’t think walking burns many calories.
I tend to eat by the clock ie 3 meals at roughly the same time every day, plus mid morning and mid afternoon snacks at the same intervals. I never get really hungry this way. So I don’t know if WLI will help.

WLI will help, they alter the hormones in your body and change how you use stored fat and how you use the calories that you eat as well as the effects on appetite. In the clinical trials they worked for the vast majority of people.

To reassure yourself, I would use an online TDEE calculator to work out your daily calorie need based on being sedentary. Then keep an accurate count of calories that you consume each day for a few days. Compare the two totals and you will see if you are over eating or eating to maintenance.

Yes because of portion sizes

I’ve been on 2.5 - 3 mg MJ for 5 months (get really strong side effects hence low dose) and lost 24.5 lbs out of a targeted 60 lbs. I still think about food and alcohol a lot BUT I don’t want to actually eat more than half of what I used to and don’t need to snack. I love food, come from a long line of good cooks and sociable drinkers…..I used to just eat large portions and snack when I had a glass of wine or two most nights. I don’t drink half as much now. Other people have put on weight due to binge and comfort eating and they report that they don’t get those urges any more on the drugs. I’ve also got PCOS and am menopausal and know it helps massively with weight loss for people with these health issues too. The WLI are intuitive to your body and work on your body to address the unique impulses and drives that people have. Join one of the threads or look through them to see what conditions people have and how it has helped with their weight loss noting that sadly in 10-20% of people it doesn’t seem to work at all. Hope that small insight helps.

Have you actually calculated how many calories you’re eating a day? I mean weighing everything, no guessing etc?

it’s surprising how little you need to eat before your calorie allowance to maintain a healthy bmi is up.

if you don’t have food noises, how come you’re over weight? Food noise is also the desire to eat when not hungry or to finish your plate when you don’t really feel hungry.

nobody becomes overweight eating the correct amount of calories for their weight, height and activity level.

ive had many people say to me that they don’t know why they’re fat, they’re only eating a bowl of Weetabix and a banana a day etc, yet stand there with size 18 clothes on.

when I was almost 18 stone, I used to think I didn’t eat that much and couldn’t understand why I was as big as I were. I told myself it must be insulin resistance, a thyroid issue etc etc. then I decided to calculate everything I ate and weighed everything for accuracy. I couldn’t believe I was eating 3000 calories a day!

No, have never weighed food. I did use the My Fitness Pal app a few years ago to help with calorie counting though.
I thought ‘food noise’ meant thinking a lot about food, planning what you are going to eat next, etc. I definitely don’t do that. When it’s my turn to cook, I don’t think about it until I go into the kitchen and see what I can rustle up from what’s there. When it’s my partner’s turn to cook, I don’t think about what he’s making until I sit down to eat. We don’t eat out much, but that’s partly due to the cost of living. I think what I’m trying to say is that I am not a very food oriented person, it doesn’t really interest me like it does some people ( aside from cake, which as I’ve said in a weakness of mine).
But I am a habitual eater, eating by the clock, regardless of how hungry I actually am.

You are probably eating far more than your TDEE if you are so regimented about your 3 meals and 2 snacks regardless of how hungry you are.

Most middle aged women with a very sedentary lifestyle don’t need 3 full meals a day plus snacks.

Food noise for me is…

Why leave half a pack of biscuits in the cupboard? Just eat them all and then there’ll be no temptation left.

Yeah, I deserve a chocolate croissant this morning, why not?

Treat myself to something, sit at my desk and think “maybe just one more” on repeat.

You’ve eaten crap all week, one more day to indulge and start afresh tomorrow.

They serve xxxx dessert here, I MUST take the opportunity to have it (despite having it recently).

Sometimes all of these on the same day!!

I never really had big portions of food, it was all the little extras in between plus very little exercise.

On MJ I don’t even think about food at all during the day. It’s liberating.