What happens when people stop the injections?

[IndigoBluey]

Just this really, when you reach your desired weight following the course of weight loss injections, do you stop taking the injections whilst sticking to a much healthier way of eating? I’m genuinely curious as to how it works in the long term. A friend of mine had stomach surgery a few years ago to shrink her stomach and very rapidly went from 18 to 9 stone, but then put a lot of weight back on gradually, to then start on WL injections. I suppose my question is when you know you are finished with needed the injections?

I went from 76 kg to 60kg and haven't put any weight back on since I stopped in August

@Back21970 I too, am surprised that so many posters have an issue with, what is, in my opinion, a level question. This is after all a discussion forum and so I would ask posters who are open to posting about WLI and WL in general, why do you think you are not allowed to be questioned on such topics?

there have been some really informative responses on this thread that will no doubt help other ms in their weight loss journey

But what is your point in relation to my OP? Again, you seem to focus on using fat and fatties in every reply, six times now and that is with your initial response deleted.

Really? I would welcome anyone who has been called fat to comment on you saying it isn’t a hurtful term. Maybe you are more thick skinned than most and accept bullying, but you shouldn’t put up with being talked to that way

Obviously I've been called fat in my life because I was fat. It doesn't make it a hateful word. It's a descriptor.

So there is palpable glee when someone who has been obese loses weight then gains it again. Better?

Or - someone very big indeed who loses weight then gains it again has barely concealed delight from some friends.

Which do you prefer?

I do find people’s obsession with other people’s weight really odd!

Why are you so concerned about other people’s weight loss journey though?

I find it surprising and dismaying too. I feel forums like this bring it to the forefront and some people sit and read it and are consumed by jealousy or resentment, they want the drugs, they can’t get them, or they struggle to maintain a healthy weight and are pissed others can now with medication. They see the posts, people losing weight, being healthy, getting to a size ten, loving life and it annoys the heck out of them.

its never about people losing the weight , it’s about the person asking the question or posting the snarky shit, their own issues with their own body.

I guess as it’s an anonymous forum you can hide behind your screen and post as you please, the worst I saw on here was a poster who said they couldn’t wait for all the bad side effects to take place, like everyone getting cancer. How messed up do you need to be to not just think that but post it.

as everyone knows all other diets pretty much fail as people in the main regain within five years, and as it’s fairly miserable dieting, no one gives a shit about that. But the drugs have changed the landscape. Now these people are faced with success, and it brings out envy and resentment.

Thanks for posting an honest personal experience. I’m only at an early point - 7 jabs in- and my tracker say I should reach target next May.

I intend then to titrate down but stay on mj at least as long as it is affordable.

One of the things starting WLi has made me think about is how many times over the years I have listened to a couple of stone, then gradually lapsed with healthier eating and put it back on. So, based on that evidence, I think the support from MJ is going to be needed long term not a quick fix.

People get so defensive and snappy. It’s a perfectly valid question and, I’m curious about the answer too as someone considering taking this route. Of course, we all know that “everyone’s different,” but that’s not really the point. The whole reason for asking on a platform like this is to hear from real people and their experiences. She understands that everyone’s different, but that doesn’t provide the insight she’s looking for.

But surely the answer is simple common sense. Some people come off, for a variety of reasons, some will maintain their weight, some will not. Some people stay on a maintenance dose. It’s a personal choice. There is no secret squirrely answer, the drugs don’t make you lose weight, the diet does. And if you chose fo come off it’s like stopping any other diet.

I see, but people’s experiences can show it’s not always so black and white. Some might exercise and change their eating habits, yet still find the food noise too overwhelming, causing them to slip back into old patterns. Everyone’s journey is different, and I'm sure it doesn’t always follow the same clear pattern. I don’t think it is common sense. But I don’t know which is why I’m interested to hear responses to the OP.

**and there may be a common pattern about food noise returning for example.

I am snappy because I really, really hate schadenfreude. I’m hard pushed to think of a less pleasant quality. And when it’s badlydisguised as concern, it makes me feel sick.

Non-obese people wishing to engage in these discussions do need to understand that they're choosing to involve themselves in something that has a context. You cannot opt out of it.

You think people are being unkind and taking pleasure in it? Just from asking a simple question. I’m honestly torn and not sure what the best approach is. I’m really interested in hearing firsthand experiences from anyone who’s come off it. I’m starting to feel it might not be a good idea, because if the long-term outcome were positive, people would probably be eager to share their experiences to help others, not get defensive or mean about it.

It is a thing that has happened during Internet WLI discussions, yes. There's a reason we have the bingo card.

Ultimately, there's no substitute for your friend engaging in these discussions herself. Everyone is different but people may be able to give her more tailored advice if we know more about her circumstances. There is a limit to what someone who's never been obese and struggles to understand the context can achieve on her behalf, even when well meaning.

I’m not sure which friend you mean. I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic, clever, or suggesting that I know the OP and joined this discussion to defend her, but that’s not the case. People on these forums often jump to conclusions based on personal triggers without knowing the full story.

I came here genuinely curious to learn more. I am overweight and struggled to lose weight after my first child, I’m considering injections after my second child is born. Surgery is another option, but that’s private and doesn’t need to be shared here. I don’t need to justify why I’m here or explain that I don’t know the OP.

@MrsB2025 Personally, worrying about how to maintain the weight loss wasn't a reason for me to not try to lose the weight with WLI. I will either manage without, or continue taking WLI in some form. If my weight goes back up to 27 then I can just restart WLI, if necessary, as I have a weight related health condition. So there is no need for my BMI to ever get to 30, 40 or even 50 as it was before I started taking Mounjaro. Finances allowing of course, which thankfully is not an issue for me.

Sorry, I see you're not one of the ones talking about their friend- apologies for the confusion there.

But in answer to the rest, one thing you'll need to be aware of as a person potentially qualifying for the jabs is that yes, this is a topic that attracts a high degree of bullshitting, moralising and nastiness.

If you would like a reading list of threads to observe this sort of behaviour in the wild, I'm sure the board can provide them!

Ok, thank you. I probably ‘snapped’ back before reading the full thread too.

Lost 6 stone, stopped, gained 2 stone, went back on and lost 1 again! Clearly can never stop!

I think people are just fed up with all the negativity. I am really confused about the proliferation of questions on long term outcome. No one in the uk has been on it for the long term in the uk for weight loss.

do you do the same for other diets ? Like ask about long term outcomes before deciding to embark.? Most people who diet regain. It’s 80 percent have regained after 5 years. The weight loss injections don’t make you lose weight, what you consume does. And no drug works when you don’t take it. Are people really thinking you can lose the weight on the drugs and magically never regain? That’s not a thing.

regain happens irrelevant of weight loss method, because people slip back into old habits over time. If an individual feels they can’t, they can stay on, that’s the difference now. If they feel they can, they come off and stick to their new consumption regime. If they fail they can go back on, most maintenance pharmacies now allow up to a year.

I think if people fundamentally accept the drugs do not magically make you lose weight, you need to diet on them, and accept the drugs don’t work when you don’t take them, it is not a life time cure where you never have to take the meds again, they would mentally grasp weight regain is based on what you consume.

My DH lost 3 stones on them. He couldn't afford to carry on buying them and unfortunately has gained every pound back