Is there justification for continuing with Mounjaro no for MH reasons even when a healthy BMI?

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So my BMI is now 24, which I’m obviously overjoyed with. My eating habits are better and I’m exercising more. However, I’ve been here before; many times. One of my biggest issues is the food noise. I find it overwhelming to the extent that it actually causes depression. Over the years, I’ve tried anti depressants, none of which addressed the cause for me which was the constant obsession with food and eating. Taking Mounjaro has stopped that, dead. It’s been life changing for me. I had no idea the beneficial effects on my MH would be so profound. As an aside, my joints are so much better too. I’ve been down to this size a few times before in the last 10yrs with no real difference in my aches. So, my question is really whether it would be reasonable to stay on a low dose for the foreseeable not so much for maintenance but rather for the enormous benefits it’s had on my mental health?

Thanks for sharing ! Your strategy sounds like a good one . Less is more and all the best for your hair issues. Being free to eat enough + have energy can only be good!

Why won’t you find a supplier for maintenance? As long as order with a year of last order.

yes I accepted this in 2002, when I lost weight on a low carb whole foods diet. As you say it’s for life.
Not just UPFs, all refined carbs - haven’t eaten pasta or pizza or chips. My friends all think I have disordered eating as I won’t eat pasta or rice or chips or tropical fruit or ice cream etc.

And really I haven’t ever lapsed (I mean yes had occasional ice cream on holiday, but only occasion lapses but despite that I gained a lot of weight in each pregnancy (from whole foods). And when stressed (from whole foods) and in peri menopause (from whole foods.) And that’s as someone who is totally consistent in the gym. It’s true I never got to obesity with whole foods - but did get to a BMI of 27 which is why I am now taking MJ.

I’m curious how long you’ve maintained your goal weight for? my longest is likely around 4 years and that was with constant vigilance.

Your experience is such a typical story of women’s metabolic changes through the life span -
the person u quote, I don’t want to encourage her to join the conversation again, but she said she has not achieved a goal weight yet, therefore has not experienced weight maintenance post weight loss

If she hasn’t had 5 years+ of maintaining how can she be so sure she won’t gain weight only eating whole foods?

Ive been on it for a year and lost 5 stone with 6 pounds to go. Im on 7.5.gs any higher and I start getting nauseous. Im going to decrease gradually then stay on 2.5mgs for the foreseeable.
I've completely gone off food and have to make myself eat. I was an emotional eater.

This.

GLP1 is a hormone produced by the body, just as insulin, thyroxin, oestrogen, etc. are. It's perfectly reasonable to supplement hormones if you are not producing the right amounts naturally and it is having an effect on your health and wellbeing.

When taking a GLP1 medication we still have to make the choice about what we put in our mouths but now we aren't at a disadvantage because our bodies aren't working in quite the way they should

Sorry not to come back sooner, we’ve just been away for a couple of days.

Just wanted to say thank you so much to you all for contributing to what has been a really useful thread for me. I had absolutely no idea that the joints thing was so widespread. I thought it was just a strange beneficial side effect that I was experiencing.
And yes, I’m also someone who ordinarily has ADHD brain. Im not diagnosed but 2 of my 3 kids are so I recognise it well. Usually, when new information arrives it just squishes everything over a bit. My brain never makes room by filing stuff away. Everything is just in there constantly shouting at me. That is, until I started on MJ. I had assumed the ADHD noise, as a pp called it, was quieter because I wasn’t feeling depressed but I’m not sure it’s not just part of the overall calm I’m feeling. My house is tidier and I’ve stopped procrastinating over everything.

The more I think about this, the more I want to stay on MJ for ever! 😅

I chose Mounjaro over wegovy for precisely the wide range of other benefits people are reporting - inflammation reduction, hormone balance etc. still only in month 1 but I can notice differences already and my friend who has been taking it longer says she has been able to drop other meds including hrt as her symptoms were massively changed.

im not sure I would drop hrt completely but hope to be able to reduce from 4 pumps of destroyed eventually. Money not withstanding I could see me choosing maintenance too.

I’ve cut HRT estrogen from 3 pumps to 2. I was taking HRT before MJ but noticed that if I missed a dose I didn’t get night sweats! Which def happened before MJ. Anyway cut back to 2 pumps and all seems good.

Interesting thread as I noticed right from first jab I was super sensitive to MJ and yes do have adhd genetics in my family (both my teenagers diagnosed) plus the effect on reduced joint inflammation & reduced brain fog was overnight. I’ve had a lifetime of exercising lots, cooking from scratch, tried every “diet”, run marathons and triathlons but always my entire adult life had an overweight bmi which turned obese with menopause and nothing I did could calm my mind or lose weight. I then lost easily 1lb a week every week on MJ down 3.5stone maintained for a year now but still need 2-2.5mg to do this. I tried stopping but felt awful again within 3-4wks. I’m short and subsequent my “maintenance” calories are only 1300 per day, so I fast daily, I increased my protein and halved my carbs just to stay at bmi24. There’s 100% a link for me in how dopamine is being used or released in the body and this drug. I hope I can stay on a low dose for a long time like my mum who has to take statins to keep her cholesterol low despite a lifetime of exercise & healthy bmi her diet alone wasn’t enough.

And yes I too reduced my HRT as there’s a link between oestrogen body uptake and fat reserves this drug for me interrupted this in a positive way. Honestly I’ve never felt healthier in my 50s, lighter, fitter and brain works so much better after many many years of debilitating brain fog through my 40s with peri-menopause thought I’d have to leave my job. Now I have far more days of hyper focus instead of panicking about what ive forgotten I’m taking on extra projects. The impact of MJ has been life changing for me.

I'm not sure how you can know you wouldn't need it for weight maintenance anyway? I will be staying on for maintenance, I don't think it matters your reason why. If you don't need it to control your eating you'd just have to be careful you don't continue losing weight when you want to maintain

My mental health improved pretty much instantly after starting Mounjaro and my chronic inflammatory back pain has also improved drastically. I was taking painkillers twice a day and am now completely off them. I have my life back. It’s been absolutely life changing and I plan to stay on it as long as I possibly can.

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I can’t believe people are still trotting out these ignorant, patronising comments - haven’t been on the WLI board for ages and hoped they’d all fucked off by now 😂

Oh how WISH they still had the laughing emoji 😂

Who is eating shite? Have you actually taken MJ? It makes it impossible for me to “eat shite” as you put it - as I’m sure it does for most people. Not that I ever had a bad diet anyway.

You are embarrassing yourself now.

This is exactly what happened to me, it’s growing back now. I also take collagen powder and biotin, b12 and iron supplements. I’m so glad I didn’t let the hair thing scare me into stopping. And as you say - it’s the weight loss, not the drug that causes this - it’s always happened to me in the past when I quickly lost a lot of weight, whatever the method.

@HansHolbein I want to say that I think I love you. Your comment about not wanting to waste any more of your life struggling to lose weight when there’s an option that makes it NOT a struggle really hit home.

But being overweight is seen as a moral failing and for some, making it easier to lose weight is viewed as “cheating”. Fatties must suffer for our sins, apparently.

@LizzyEmI’ve tried keto (and a load of other stuff). I don’t sit around stuffing my face with “junk”. I exercise hard, and frequently. I’m still fat. WLIs have changed my life.

I see it that way as well. Why would I want to dedicate endless brain space with having to stay vigilant to be slim when I can afford the medication? I know from earlier weight loss efforts that the weight creeps back on over time

From the 2.5 pen. It shouldn't be doing anything, but it really is making such a difference. It's actually really frustrating!

I lost 10kg in 7 weeks taking 1.25mg. So as a maintenance dose, whilst 5 clicks is VERY low, I don't see why it wouldn't make a difference to someone extremely sensitive to MJ.
It makes me wonder what dose i may end up maintaining on, hopefully a tiny one, so i can still afford holidays!!

I lost two stone and didn't go over 1.25. I think I'm very sensitive to lots of medication. I'm pretty small. Fingers crossed for you!

Yep i'm now 3 stone down on 1.875mg. I briefly went up to 2.5mg but the appetite suppression was so strong and the constipation and lack of energy was unpleasant and i started noticing more hair shedding, so i dropped back down. Now i am feeling the best i have for a long long time, and still have a massive sugar aversion/ sensitivity which is amazing (what i really want is a drug that just does that and nothing else).