Judgey people in gym

[MeridaBrave]

So I was in the gym changing room and these two quite slim women are discussing weight loss jabs saying that people should just eat less and exercise more. And so many taking for vanity.

I haven’t told people in real life but I didnt know either of them, so I decided to say to them, just be thankful you can stay slim without. So the woman says it’s really hard for her as she has an underactive thyroid.

I said that I’ve taken for 4 months and you’d think i was taking for vanity but i’ve always struggled with weight, I have PCOS (so insulin resistance) and it’s meant that my cholesterol has gone from high to normal.

Not sure why people feel the need to be so judgey. I am toned / slim / ripped now, BMI was over 27 at start (with PCOS and high cholesterol) so taken totally legitimately.

People will always judge. Not just at the gym. And most fat people taking the shots or whatever are doing it purely for lazy reasons. They don't want to control their diet or exercise, so they think this is a quick short cut. But then they gain all of it back, and then some, when the drugs stop working or they stop taking them because they actually didn't make any lifestyle changes.

Where are the facts and figures to prove what you've just written? You're just posting your own opinion without any data to back it up. You have no idea whatsoever why most people choose to take WLI's.

You're right. People will always judge and your post is a classic example of that.

As a former fattie, yes, I judge people for being fat. There is no excuse for it, besides like the small percent that have a valid medical reason to be fat. I have never met a single human who is fat that has such a reason. But a lot love to make excuses for their inability to stop eating all the time.

They can have their opinions, but they were stupid to share them publicly!

Exactly! 🙄🙄🙄

As a former “fattie” you should absolutely know better than to post what you just have.

Obesity is complex and there are many reasons people gain weight. Many of the people I see in my job are dealing with unbelievable amounts of stress with little support. They don’t have time to look after themselves often and will eat what’s available which is often high calorie and ultra processed.

I’ve been “a fattie” too and no way would I post what you just did because I’m not black and white in my thinking.

Go get some books about why people gain weight. You might learn something.

oh and unless you’ve been maintaining for 5+ years you are not immune from regaining everything you have lost. 95% of folk regain within five years. A staggering 40% will put more on top.

If you have maintained over five years, congratulations you’re one of those perfect people who never puts a foot wrong.

Yes. Really annoying me the way they shared their judgement so openly.

Oh dear. Surely as a former larger person you know how hard it is, and that it’s going to be an on going challenge to keep the weight off.

155 is nothing.

I was pushing 350 when I started trying to lose weight. Because of my size it was very, very hard to exercise effectively. Because of my makeup, I was retaining water here there and everywhere and despite my best efforts my weight would vary wildly day to day. Because of my food addiction, I struggled with that and it become a cycle of self loathing and sabotage.

I lost two stone in the 8 months before I started the jabs. They were life changing for me. I am far from lazy - I go to the gym 4-5 times a week, I ran three 5ks in the summer before a knee injury scuppered that for me.

Bollocks. Before I lost weight on Mounjaro I was carefully tracking and controlling my food for years and years, following all the nutrition advice, trying every kind of eating plan and exercising regularly as I have done all my life, including when I was very slim indeed before I had children. I first joined a gym at 18 when hardly any women went to gyms. After having children and gaining weight in pregnancy I had endometriosis and PCOS and found it very hard to get below BMI 27 - and was usually around BMI 28/29, and tried for 15 years. I wish I had been able to enjoy stuffing my face with food and drink as I've had to control what I eat carefully and do plenty of exercise since I was in my teens to stay slim or try to be. I was BMI 20 before I had DD1. With Mounjaro I've been able to eat 300 calories a day less than before, sustainably and get down to BMI 24. At menopause too.

Wow! Judging others goes both ways doesn’t it?

I lost about 15kg over 10 years ago and have consistently kept it off since. It is fucking hard work and I have to make food decisions every bastard day and it doesn’t get easier.

As a PP said the majority of fat people don’t have complex problems and it is about taking personal responsibility, but it sounds like you work in a clinical setting so maybe your view is skewed.

I’m not some kind of perfect saint but the light from your halo is blinding.

I hate this narrative that WLIs are “cheating”. It’s like saying contraceptives are cheating because you could just abstain from sex to avoid pregnancy, or vaccines are cheating because you could just avoid all human contact and not get sick. They’re a treatment for a medical issue, but being overweight is seen as a moral failing and we should have to give penance and suffer our punishment.

FTAOD I have worked out hard several times a week for years and I eat sensibly. My body just is bigger and perimenopause is making it harder to fight that. WLIs are a solution.

Congratulations on your weight loss.

but surely knowing how hard it is, your body happy to see a solution that helps people?

Are yoh all right @ForeverHopeful3 ?

You self talk is really negative. Have you thought of seeking help?

I think when you are a certain weight, eating normally is just ‘maintaining’ that heavy weight. So once a person gets really heavy, it’s a far bigger job to lose it, it’s a huge huge ordeal.
For many other reasons too.

I don’t judge anyone and I think it would be a waste of time to start caring too much about what other people are doing or saying. Stay in your own lane.

I don't have a problem with people using WLI's, I think they can be really useful. But I also think that it's perfectly possible for the vast majority of people to eat less, do more and lose weight. It's not just about eating more healthily, it's also about eating less. People's idea of a 'normal' amount to eat often seems way off to me when I eat in/out with friends.

I do agree with the women that a lot of people want to use them for vanity reasons, there are people on here all the time saying they want to lose a couple of stone and it's not fair that they can't get WLI's. Those women were also having a conversation between the two of them and are entitled to their opinions. It was rude of you to butt in IMO.

As we begin to understand the science, genetics and other factors that make up weight loss, gain and other metabolic conditions/ issues I think WLI will become even more common and that can only be a good thing.

Some people (for all sorts of reasons) have smaller appetites, don’t put on weight easily, have faster metabolisms often through luck as much as anything else. Just as some people get addicted to other substances more easily. I can’t imagine people saying using nicotine patches to give up smoking is cheating or getting medical help to quit drug addiction but yet obesity is viewed so differently. Of course it also requires lifestyle changes but surely the way people get healthier doesn’t matter and medical support to enable this should be celebrated

Former fatties are the worst for judgment !!!!

No, I don’t begrudge a solution for those who need it.
What grates is the narrative that nobody can help being fat and it is such a complex subject that you must never judge anyone that is. I am fully aware that there are medical conditions which do lead to weight gain and some people have situations that mean it is practical to eat processed food, but the vast majority of people just eat too much and could choose not to. I know from personal experience that it is not easy to choose that, but always saying ‘it’s not my fault’ isn’t the answer.

Interesting you mention lazy when you've just pulled out the laziest clichés in the book against WLI.

Yes, that happens to some on the jabs. Some, not all. If the time spent on the jabs is used to make lifestyle changes while the jabs are providing suppression, the weight doesn't get regained. I haven't put any of mine (3st) back on because I've not gone back to my old habits.

I'd say you've proved the point you made in your first sentence quite effectively, though.

Interesting comments. I can only assume you're basing them on your own reasons why you were fat. Maybe try not judging everyone who struggles with their weight by your own standards, if so?

I am at a loss as to why people care how people lose weight (or don't). It doesn't impact you in any way if someone is taking jabs or not. It comes across as "look at me aren't I just fabulous - so much better than you" which frankly is an unattractive trait no matter how much you weigh.

Good on you if you have lost weight - if it makes you happy I am happy for you. It isn't a competition where people can cheat against some rules that only exist in a fragile ego.