Judgey people in gym

[MeridaBrave]

So I was in the gym changing room and these two quite slim women are discussing weight loss jabs saying that people should just eat less and exercise more. And so many taking for vanity.

I haven’t told people in real life but I didnt know either of them, so I decided to say to them, just be thankful you can stay slim without. So the woman says it’s really hard for her as she has an underactive thyroid.

I said that I’ve taken for 4 months and you’d think i was taking for vanity but i’ve always struggled with weight, I have PCOS (so insulin resistance) and it’s meant that my cholesterol has gone from high to normal.

Not sure why people feel the need to be so judgey. I am toned / slim / ripped now, BMI was over 27 at start (with PCOS and high cholesterol) so taken totally legitimately.

Well done on the weight loss -
what’s your bmi now?

We are usually what we eat/drink - lifestyle
Very few people (but some) have a condition that makes them put on weight - steroids can do that of course

If we are what we eat, there are a fair few sour lemons rattling around the WLI board.

What I will never understand is, why do so many people who are anti-WLI waste so much time and keystrokes decrying WLI and their users?

I’m not on WLI. I don’t get all the judgement about them.

You can have two people of similar height, weight, activity level, age, health, with similar diet who will lose weight at different speeds.

There are numerous conditions which can alter not only how easy/difficult someone finds it to stick to a diet/exercise, but also their ability to lose weight. Even if someone is able to lose weight naturally, with harder work, why shouldn’t they use WLI? Why does everything have to be divisive and why is this such a contentious issue? We can call all manner of things “lazy”, be it childcare, having a cleaner, taking vitamins, having a washing machine, getting an online food delivery - and dismiss all the good reasons for doing any of these. I don’t think someone’s choice to give up smoking without nicotine patches is anymore valid than someone who chooses to go cold turkey. I’m someone who worked hard to keep my figure and enjoy a good level of fitness - I was also someone whose body was able to respond to that. I don’t get this puritanical “make life harder” attitude.

What an unpleasant post. How superior you must need to feel to post it.

It's so funny how some people think users of WLI don't have to eat healthily or exercise, when the fact that you still need to do those things is one of the first instructions a provider will give you on signing up, before you've even done your first jab. A lot of the WLI-naysayers on MN talk as if WLI and a healthy lifestyle are two separate things. It's WLI plus a healthy lifestyle, well it is if you want to keep the weight off anyway. I wouldn't have thought it was that tricky a concept to grasp. 🤷‍♀️

That’s a good point. Thank you.

I have been using WLI since Feb 25, I'm slower than some to drop the weight currently lost 3 stone have a PT twice a week and three sessions in the gym on my own.

People do judge massively with WLI, I have been very private about my WLI and only told 3/4 people who I thought wouldn't be judging me 2 where fie 1 was obnoxious about it and the 4th was genuinely interested in the reasons why and asked what had I done in addition to WLI.

I'm looking at tapering down over the next 4 months, ideally not going beyond Feb 26 with WLI if I can lose another stone in that period great but if not then where I am in Feb will be it.

Be kind to your fellow humans and remember that lots of people get help to stop smoking why are WLI so frowned upon?

Exactly this!

Yes I have used WLIs. But I have also exercised more and eaten less. The WLI have just made the eating less much easier. I have PCOS / insulin resistance and menopausal so weight loss is very hard otherwise.

Yes, for me anyway it was in part “cosmetic” / “vanity”. My BMI was 27 so I was only just overweight.

But equally my cholesterol is now back in the normal range. If I instead had taken statins I don’t think anyone would have been judging on that.

Exactly what I was going to say. Overweight people are criticised for being fat,then they're criticised for trying to lose weight with the help of WLI. Damned if they do,damned if they don't.

It is indeed a complex subject and yes I will judge anyone sneering at others because they have lost weight and kept it off. So bore off and go read some books about obesity. Like that previous poster you might learn something. But judging by your posts I doubt it.

You will always get pious people. I know someone on one of the jabs and honestly they are a great advert for it. It's not just the weight loss (to be honest I never thought she was that heavy) it's the impact it's had on her mood and other things that's really noteworthy.

Three of my family struggle to eat. They rarely feel hungry and have to force themselves to eat because they lose weight quickly. They are what people describe as naturally slim but because I live with them I see how they struggle. I suspect they have naturally high GLP-1.

I think there is a lot we don't understand about weight gain and loss and if these injections help then that is great. The only thing that worries me is the bone density issues which can be mitigated with strength training I understand.

But why does it grate on you? I have widespread arthritis in almost every large joint but I rarely take painkillers. A friend has arthritis in one joint and is taking very strong painkillers. I could judge them and say they should just try harder to deal with pain. I don't cos I know pain is complex and people respond differently to pain. Same with appetite. Interestingly when I have a pain flare-up my appetite disappears. Why people overeat IS complex.

Using WLI is helping me lose weight but I’m still having to work hard to make it happen. The WLI are making possible what has been impossible for me ie sugar cravings, big appetite, food noise. These have reduced so now I can find the willpower to reduce my calorie intake (to around 1000 cals per day. Anymore than that and I don’t lose) and now that I’ve lost almost 2 stone, I can actually exercise effectively. I’ve still got at least another stone to lose, maybe more depending on whether you judge healthy weight by BMI or waist/height ratio. But one thing I know is that without WLI I could not have lost the weight I have. My body simply works against me too much.

They're judging because they feel threatened. Being thin gives status, and also used to have rarity value. Now it doesn't. People can, and do, buy it. Lots of them have even clocked that we can stay on it forever if we want, so they don't even get the copium huff of assuring themselves we'll put it all back on and then some.

I actually get it, up to a point. Taking WLIs is essentially showing that we don't give any fucks about their value and ranking systems. However, nobody is making anyone vocalise those sentiments in public, so it's good to challenge. Personally I like rubbing faces in it, so I'd have probably lied about how I'm on it, eat more than ever now and spend all day stuffing my face whilst laughing at people who restrict calories. But your way was more grown up!

What a lot of judgey garbage

And another one. Garbage.

I’m always surprised and rather dismayed when I read these abysmal comments on judging fat people. Calling them lady, or that it grates etc. people using the fact it’s an anonymous forum to spew vitriol.

the reality is there is something driving that key board warrior behaviour. Resentful people have help to lose weight, envy they can stay on and stay slim. Envy they can get thr drugs, whatever.

all the comments do is reveal that envy, resentment that’s driving the person to spew vitriol snd attack on line. It says nothing about people who gain weight or use the drugs, and it says everything about them. Everything they don’t want us to know.