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Another calm and supportive thread to discuss the Price Increases: Mounjaro THREAD TWO

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TryingAgainAgainAgain · 21/08/2025 21:17

Keep calm and carry on discussing The Pendemic…

(sorry)

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Doggymummar · 24/08/2025 11:30

I'm lucky I never had any debilitating side effects and I went up every 4 weeks as my provider sent the next pen. Been on 15 since December but I'm was perfectly happy on 5. I have started using the 5 th dose which is always bigger than the others now since I lost my job. Is it better to go down one by one, or could I drop straight to 5?

KeepUndercover · 24/08/2025 11:31

I've been on Mounjaro for over a year and went up the doses slowly, it worked very well for me and I wanted to be able to eat so I went up when I felt I needed to rather than each month. I also had a reasonable amount of sickness.

I am very glad I did go up slowly as I found that I did eventually get quite used to 15mg after being on it for a while. If I'd gone up every month I'd have had over 6 months on 15mg and I think I'd have struggled more towards the end to keep eating right and keep losing weight. If you've got a lot to lose I'd definitely recommend pacing yourself on the doses.

Trinck · 24/08/2025 11:39

Just to say - I started Juniper this week at 7 5mg and they've created me a 6 month plan (which I don't intend to follow because I jump suppliers) - but that has me on 10mg for the next 5 months.

It seems I can request to increase, but the default assumption is for me to stick at 10mg. I'm marginally impressed with the lack of profiteering,to a degree, there.

Puppylucky · 24/08/2025 11:44

Going up a dose every month has definitely been pushed more by some suppliers than others. I moved away from Simple Pharmacy in part because they refused to allow me to stay on 10mg for more than one month without a lot of persuasion. By comparison Cloud give the option every month of selecting the strength you require. However I'm not sure if it's profiteering or lack of pharmacist experience/training. It feels like we are all in this vast experiment together - HCPs and patients alike, with no real expertise on either side.

TryingAgainAgainAgain · 24/08/2025 11:50

I don't know why your description of your friend's situation is being criticised, @SilkCottonTree. It is worrying when someone is having severe side effects from WLI but carrying on regardless.

I've previously lost weight very fast due to illness and it was awful. Only made worse by all the compliments I got while clearly underweight.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 24/08/2025 12:06

More fool her to continue if having side effects

I went up every month bar one when did double 10 - but zero side effects and even at 15 didn’t always have suppression

if I was suffering I wouldn’t have continued

srw1987 · 24/08/2025 12:10

Clair45 · 24/08/2025 11:11

Just wondering if anyone has had their order refunded from Asda?
Been a customer since April. Had an operation so had to go back to 2.5 as was off for 3 weeks. Had that approved and ordered my 5mg pen a week earlier after I saw the news so panic bought. Today it's been refunded yet still says processing. :(

I don’t think it’s a refund as such - banks will only hold money in pending for a short amount of time, so if the transaction isn't completed within that time the funds are released.

MynameisJune · 24/08/2025 12:14

TryingAgainAgainAgain · 24/08/2025 11:50

I don't know why your description of your friend's situation is being criticised, @SilkCottonTree. It is worrying when someone is having severe side effects from WLI but carrying on regardless.

I've previously lost weight very fast due to illness and it was awful. Only made worse by all the compliments I got while clearly underweight.

Because it’s being blamed on her going up the doses very quickly, when that’s probably not the issue. She might be a super responder and lost weight quickly but also getting a lot of side effects.

Some people react badly to any medication but it’s not blamed on the person for taking the dose they are prescribed.

It is concerning that there are people out there that are suffering severe side effects and just carrying on but I blame our government for our failing health system and not really having much of a choice if you want to access mounjaro it’s either be morbidly obese to get it on the NHS or pay. And if you don’t want, or can’t afford to pay for a pharmacy like Boots then this is what happens.

Sometimes I do think that this is some sort of experiment into how healthcare could work in this country outside of the NHS.

TryingAgainAgainAgain · 24/08/2025 12:17

Blondeshavemorefun · 24/08/2025 12:06

More fool her to continue if having side effects

I went up every month bar one when did double 10 - but zero side effects and even at 15 didn’t always have suppression

if I was suffering I wouldn’t have continued

I think this is where not having direct contact with an HCP is an issue. Posters on here seem pretty clued up, but many people have very little insight into anything healthcare related. Not their own fault, just how it is. Many don't even read the patient information, or will struggle to make much sense of it.

People have been warned that they will likely get some side effects which if they want to be successful they'll have to power through to some extent. Knowing where to sensibly draw the line will be hard for some. And meanwhile they may well be struggling to afford every pen.

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Clair45 · 24/08/2025 12:23

srw1987 · 24/08/2025 12:10

I don’t think it’s a refund as such - banks will only hold money in pending for a short amount of time, so if the transaction isn't completed within that time the funds are released.

Oh thanks for that. Didn't realise this

gimmemounjaro · 24/08/2025 12:32

TryingAgainAgainAgain · 24/08/2025 11:50

I don't know why your description of your friend's situation is being criticised, @SilkCottonTree. It is worrying when someone is having severe side effects from WLI but carrying on regardless.

I've previously lost weight very fast due to illness and it was awful. Only made worse by all the compliments I got while clearly underweight.

I agree - I hope in future there will be better guidance about how to move up the doses (or not). The consensus does seem to be that losing weight quicker than 1-2lbs per week can cause problems, and that losing weight more slowly can protect against them. Plus the idea that you can lose 3-4 lbs a week for several months and not just keep but build muscle while only doing cardio and no strength training is a bit mad imo. Muscle loss is inevitable, it’s just about trying to minimise that, and running won’t do it. Middle / long distance runners are not muscly people!

HereIGoOnceMore · 24/08/2025 12:43

The comparison with the US is interesting and whilst I fervently hope we don’t end up with their system of healthcare it does mean their customers ask a lot more questions. The NHS paternalistic model is slowly changing but historically people were often prescribed what their Dr thought. Around 10% of prescribed medication is wasted because people don’t take it, or take less than prescribed. Obviously there are complex reasons for this, but when people pay for medication it can lead to more of a partnership conversation. It is common in the US for affordability to be taken into account and it is not unusual for people who might be recommended 3 medications to discuss which two of the three might be the best, to reduce the cost.

As most of us are paying privately for our WLI, not only does it need to suit our health needs but also our budgets.

Trinck · 24/08/2025 13:12

What will happen with Mounjaro prices for companies who are not UK based, but selling to the UK market?

For example I think Juniper is an Australian company, but selling to the UK market. And probably also selling to markets across Australia, maybe NZ, maybe other European countries - I don't know this, I'm just imagining that if they are in the UK market they are probably elsewhere too.

So with a multi-national supplier - how is their Mounjaro pricing worked out from the supplier? Are they buying the same product at the same price, but retailing it at different market values? Or having to buy the same product at different prices, depending on the market it is for?

I suppose a similar question would be - could US customers have bought Mounjaro from UK pharmacies at lower prices?

I don't have a deep enough understanding of hlobal commerce to know this sort of thing.

Orangesandlemons77 · 24/08/2025 13:13

Asked about Voy yesterday and got this message, so no news yet.

  • Regarding to price increase, as of the moment, we’re actively reviewing our pricing to ensure we offer the best possible value, and will always give at least 7 days’ notice before making any changes to existing subscriptions. While we’ll do our best to keep Mounjaro as accessible as possible, Wegovy is now likely to be the more affordable option for most patients.
MissMogs · 24/08/2025 13:29

My Lotus order finally arrived today! 2-pen bundle and ice packs still very cold so I’m happy.
I had started and then abandoned a Juniper order, then they sent me a code for over £100 off (!), but then the code didn’t work so I emailed them and am waiting for a response.
For me, it’s worth stocking up and using a credit card for it as the interest payments won’t be as much as the increased cost after 1 September.

QueenOfHiraeth · 24/08/2025 13:38

Trinck · 24/08/2025 13:12

What will happen with Mounjaro prices for companies who are not UK based, but selling to the UK market?

For example I think Juniper is an Australian company, but selling to the UK market. And probably also selling to markets across Australia, maybe NZ, maybe other European countries - I don't know this, I'm just imagining that if they are in the UK market they are probably elsewhere too.

So with a multi-national supplier - how is their Mounjaro pricing worked out from the supplier? Are they buying the same product at the same price, but retailing it at different market values? Or having to buy the same product at different prices, depending on the market it is for?

I suppose a similar question would be - could US customers have bought Mounjaro from UK pharmacies at lower prices?

I don't have a deep enough understanding of hlobal commerce to know this sort of thing.

Overseas companies can only supply medication via UK registered pharmacies so they will either buy/absorb one to work under their "umbrella" or have a partnership like a few do (one of the American providers does this with MedExpress providing pharmacy services)
I think it would be illegal for them to buy or import medication from overseas without import licenses, etc which would be prohibitive costs

QueenOfHiraeth · 24/08/2025 14:03

Just for information and largely unsubstantiated, but I have heard rumours from friends who work in pharmacy/pharmaceuticals that there was more to this debacle than just Trump and there have been rumblings about unprofessional behaviour, profiteering and rule-bending in the wild west that is the WLI market.
Their suggestion was this may be part of the reason Lilly hit the UK with price controls and enforced quotas on pharmacy ordering rather than reducing costs in the US as NovoNordisk have done.

May be a coincidence but the pharmacy regulators sent information to pharmacists this week containing the following:
"We have recently had concerns raised with us by the public, medicines manufacturers, and other regulators regarding medicines supplied on private prescriptions overseas by UK pharmacies. Concerns have included medicines being supplied to countries in which they are not legally allowed, and medicines arriving in a condition which means they are not safe to use.
Pharmacies and their teams need to undertake the relevant checks concerning the applicable laws of the country they are sending medicines to.
The packaging, transport method and in-transit timeliness and delivery provider also need to be suitable (in line with the manufacturer’s storage instructions) to ensure that the medicine arrives in good condition and is still safe and fit for purpose.
The DHSC list of medicines that you cannot export from the UK or hoard should also be checked and the potential impact on medicines availability carefully considered before sending medicines outside the UK."

I particularly noted the points about sending medication overseas which we have all seen (even some posters on here have admitted they are not in the UK but a provider ships to them or allows bulk buying when visiting with the knowledge the patient is from overseas - no shade to them it is the prescriber at fault) and the point about hoarding which some pharmacies seem to have encouraged. I checked that list, just out of interest and both semaglutide (Ozempic, Wegovy) and tirzepatide (Mounjaro) are on it.

It then goes on to say:
"We recently issued a joint enforcement notice with the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) and the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) to tackle adverts for prescription-only medicines by pharmacies that don’t comply with legislation and standards.
The ASA recently issued rulings against pharmacies, who promoted prescription-only medicines (POMs) for weight management.
These rulings make clear that all injectable forms of weight-management medication are POMs and can’t be advertised, even where ads don’t explicitly name a medicine. The rulings clarify that claims including “Weight Loss Injections” and “GLP-1”, and images including unbranded medical injection pens or vials of liquid, aren’t allowed.
We expect all pharmacies to make sure any adverts or promotion comply. "

May be a total coincidence but who knows?

TryingAgainAgainAgain · 24/08/2025 14:21

Juniper clearly don't feel the advertising regulations apply to them, @QueenOfHiraeth. Or are very confident that there won't be any meaningful consequences. This was on my Instagram this morning...

Another calm and supportive thread to discuss the Price Increases: Mounjaro THREAD TWO
Another calm and supportive thread to discuss the Price Increases: Mounjaro THREAD TWO
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TryingAgainAgainAgain · 24/08/2025 14:24

And nor do ZAVA or Mumsnet...

Another calm and supportive thread to discuss the Price Increases: Mounjaro THREAD TWO
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MynameisJune · 24/08/2025 14:36

I do wonder if behind the scenes there has been some concern about the procuring of WLI. They are quite easy to get hold of by someone who fits the criteria and then sell them on for profit to people that don’t. Raising prices might make this more difficult for people.

I do think we might see more pharmacies asking for video calls for height verification. I’ve still got my original pictures of me on the scales with the date on a piece of paper in the hopes that if I have to prove my starting weight at some point in the future then this might suffice.

ThatCyanSheep · 24/08/2025 15:06

QueenOfHiraeth · 24/08/2025 14:03

Just for information and largely unsubstantiated, but I have heard rumours from friends who work in pharmacy/pharmaceuticals that there was more to this debacle than just Trump and there have been rumblings about unprofessional behaviour, profiteering and rule-bending in the wild west that is the WLI market.
Their suggestion was this may be part of the reason Lilly hit the UK with price controls and enforced quotas on pharmacy ordering rather than reducing costs in the US as NovoNordisk have done.

May be a coincidence but the pharmacy regulators sent information to pharmacists this week containing the following:
"We have recently had concerns raised with us by the public, medicines manufacturers, and other regulators regarding medicines supplied on private prescriptions overseas by UK pharmacies. Concerns have included medicines being supplied to countries in which they are not legally allowed, and medicines arriving in a condition which means they are not safe to use.
Pharmacies and their teams need to undertake the relevant checks concerning the applicable laws of the country they are sending medicines to.
The packaging, transport method and in-transit timeliness and delivery provider also need to be suitable (in line with the manufacturer’s storage instructions) to ensure that the medicine arrives in good condition and is still safe and fit for purpose.
The DHSC list of medicines that you cannot export from the UK or hoard should also be checked and the potential impact on medicines availability carefully considered before sending medicines outside the UK."

I particularly noted the points about sending medication overseas which we have all seen (even some posters on here have admitted they are not in the UK but a provider ships to them or allows bulk buying when visiting with the knowledge the patient is from overseas - no shade to them it is the prescriber at fault) and the point about hoarding which some pharmacies seem to have encouraged. I checked that list, just out of interest and both semaglutide (Ozempic, Wegovy) and tirzepatide (Mounjaro) are on it.

It then goes on to say:
"We recently issued a joint enforcement notice with the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) and the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) to tackle adverts for prescription-only medicines by pharmacies that don’t comply with legislation and standards.
The ASA recently issued rulings against pharmacies, who promoted prescription-only medicines (POMs) for weight management.
These rulings make clear that all injectable forms of weight-management medication are POMs and can’t be advertised, even where ads don’t explicitly name a medicine. The rulings clarify that claims including “Weight Loss Injections” and “GLP-1”, and images including unbranded medical injection pens or vials of liquid, aren’t allowed.
We expect all pharmacies to make sure any adverts or promotion comply. "

May be a total coincidence but who knows?

Lilly won’t be arsed where it’s going as long as they’re getting paid. There’s a poster on these boards who has openly bragged for about a year now about getting their Mounjaro shipped abroad from the UK. I don’t think price increases will stop that though

Gertieblue · 24/08/2025 16:38

Please can somebody explain how Juniper works for me? I've been on MJ for a year, but I haven't used a subscription service. Can I cancel anytime, or am I tied in for a period?

Also, if anyone wants to send me a discount code on private message, I'll happily use that rather than the one on Monj. Thank you.

SecretSquirrel703 · 24/08/2025 16:56

@QueenOfHiraeth sounds like this recent case discussed on reddit, there are others too...
https://www.reddit.com/r/UKMounjaro/s/qughy8OGeU

Summerbay23 · 24/08/2025 17:32

Also, does anyone know what the juniper price is for 10mg?? It looks as if you can’t actually select a product/price until after your consultation. I’ve used a discount code (£75 off I think) but don’t actually know what the final price might be (which seems a bit odd if I then decide not to go ahead because it’s too expensive??). Thanks anyone.

QueenOfHiraeth · 24/08/2025 17:40

@TryingAgainAgainAgain Both of those ads are observing the letter of the law rather than the spirit of it which I do think the regulator should clamp down on. They don't mention drug names, injections or GLP1 but we all know what they mean.
I'll screenshot those and any others people want to share here and send them on to the GPhC
I was looking for the MN and MedExpress spam but it seems to have vanished from my feed

@SecretSquirrel703 That is amazing and well done those Redditors. I was ludicrously proud of myself for reporting MedExpress on several grounds with lots of screenshotted evidence and getting a response from them that the pharmacy inspector for the area had been informed. Shortly after that, it was announced that they had been pulled up on several things which I hope I may have played a small part in