Mounjaro bingo…yawn!

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I met some friends for lunch last week and the topic invariably turned to WLI.

I haven’t told them I’m on WLI, as I had a feeling I’d get this reaction…and bingo, there was the first cliche (hence why I haven’t told them).

One of the group has lost a few stone…”the hard way, through diet and exercise”. Yawn.

I did attempt to generally bat back and say that people still need to eat healthily and exercise to lose weight, but they were having none of it.

I feel like I’m going to scream if I see anymore of these types of comments:

”What about people eat less and move more, it’s not rocket science”

etc etc

Not sure what I’m looking for here other than a rant. But please feel free to add to the bingo card!

“But the long term side effects!!!!”

this medication has been used for decades in diabetes, Brenda. The long term effects won’t be different now. And they’re likely better than being 25 stone was!

Erm, there is no faux concern. Thank you very much. If you bother to actually read what I have typed rather than skimmed it and immediately take offence, you will see I have no skin in the game and can see both sides. So no need to be so sarcastic!

I really hope there are no long term side effects. But it is a fact (not my opinion) that there is legitimate concern that the long term effects are not known in taking these drugs for weight loss. I honestly hope there are none, or only good ones as you have outlined, but there IS concern and it's not "faux".

That’s true of most new drugs but somehow it’s only WLIs that people seem to be getting very very concerned about.

There isn’t legitimate concern, it’s speculative and not based on any genuine information, knowledge, research or even any plausible theory. It’s also vague and unspecified as well as restricted to WLI and not any of the very many medications that have been developed in a similar timeframe. That’s what makes people roll their eyes and dismiss it as faux.

Not sure where your concerns over the long term effects of MJ are coming from. This drug has been under trials for the best part of 10 years. The reason “why” people have been taking it - T2D or weight loss - are irrelevant, there’s lots of long term use data.

This is the best articulation I’ve seen. Being thinner is more achievable for some people and they don’t want to lose that advantage.

I did this yesterday, it was awesome.

I honestly love this!!

But never seen. Cannot be assessed.

Operated recently for a flesh eating eating bug, it is all over the records, left with the scar, no plastic surgery here despite there being two mentions, the gods at the hospital refuse to see me in out patients, we're all good.

Funnily enough, the only thing to get the GP's attention was how badly the GLP use was explored in a hospital settling.

I look forward to the fall out in the next decade as no one has been straight with me. I'm to believe diabetics lose weight and get to keep hold of this medication indefinitely when other people are taken off metformin and left to it. OK I'll believe in another decades time.

I seem to remember it written somewhere that the side effects of obesity are not only fully ‘assessed’ with a mountain of long term studies.. but pretty bloody fatal too.
I was obese. I’m now the lower end of healthy BMI (21) . I used to take blood pressure medication and statins. I no longer need them. I do take thyroxine because my thyroid is fucked. I will remain on that for life. I maintain on 7.5mg of MJ because I am insulin resistant following a life time of yo-yo dieting. I will stay on it or it’s next generation developments for life as well.

… and just to really piss off the naysayers. It has been the ‘easy’ option for me. I eat what I like - but as my issues were never diet but portion control. I love to cook. So I eat well just a lot less of it.

These injections have been used for years. The “why” doesn’t change any long term impacts.

Same! For me it was just portion control and sometimes snacks. I was never a binger, always got my 5 a day. And getting to my current 27 BMI on MJ has been a piece of piss.

Haha same
my diet is practically angelic. Homemade sourdough bread, vegan, 30 different fruit and veg in a week, home cooked everything, low UPF, blah blah but I just had a massive appetite and could eat silly quantities and not feel full. A little bit of emotional eating but barely. Now I eat more protein and less carbs and almost zero sugar but it's not been an effort in the least. What it's done for me above all is removed the association between food and treat/reward so even if my treat was an extra slice of marmite toast or a delicious huge portion of home cooked curry I no longer have that association and simply make the best choice without any effort at all.
To be fair it did take 6 months on Mounjaro to truly reach that point. However prior to that weight loss was still easy because of appetite suppression

@Mindovermatter45 "But never seen. Cannot be assessed."
Do you mean the trial results? If you Google "terzepatide trial results" you'll see that all the results are readily available online

@Slimagain "I seem to remember it written somewhere that the side effects of obesity are not only fully ‘assessed’ with a mountain of long term studies.. but pretty bloody fatal too."
Absolutely! Also, if you read the details of the trials you will also see that there are some rare fatalities during the trials, mainly from cardiac events which when investigated were found to be completely unrelated to the drug, but to the participants existing comorbidities.

It’s very true the people who are pointing out that this faux concern is limited to weightloss injections at the exclusion of any other commonly prescribed drug. For example there are plenty of threads on mental health on here, many of which mention anti-depressants (some of which are fairly new) and all of which have far more side-effects than WLIs. I’ve rarely come across strangers on the internet expressing concerns for other strangers on the internet taking antidepressants. I imagine A. Because they assume these people are adults and can do their own research and weigh up the pros and cons and B. Because people improving their mental health doesn’t threaten them, in fact it probably benefits most people when others’ have good mental health