Colleagues all dissing Mounjaro

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I'm now officially 2 stone down and work colleagues are starting to notice and asking what's my secret etc. I don't want to lie but also after a conversation in the office a few weeks back, I now feel I can't be honest about taking Mounjaro, so I've just said I've been strict with my calorie counting (which is also true).

I work in an open plan office and someone brought up casually into convo about how everyone is on weight loss injections now and before I knew it, it turned into a frenzied attack on anyone who takes them. Comments such as 'it's the lazy way out', 'they'll put all the weight back on again', 'they don't know what they're putting in their bodies', 'no such thing as food noise', 'they have no self control', 'people have no discipline nowadays', 'that's the easy way', you get my drift. I just sat there, with a quiet smirk on my face I have to say, as these were all the same people who had quite literally said to me not 20 minutes earlier how great I looked 😂These comments were people from all builds as well, not just 'skinny' people.

In hind sight maybe I should have spoken up at that point in time to defend it and made them all embarrassed, but I'll lose another stone and maybe then do it 😜Anyone else had this at all?

@User14March my opinion is not relevant for anyone else especially given that I wouldn’t know anything about their health.

If I was advising a child of mine at 18 I would suggest that medication isn’t a first line approach to weight loss if you have not sustained at least one serious attempt at losing weight via non medicated means. I would also think that an 18 year old (presumably who has not been obese throughout childhood?) has a much better chance of succeeding and maintaining weight loss than someone who’s been obese for decades.

u do t need to tell them a damn thing. But. Get somethings into your head so when they start saying daft things like don’t know what you’re putting into your body, say it’s a recommended official drug. Trialled and tested. It’s in the packaging what they are putting in. And it’s been recommended by your gp.

get some stories.
ill tell you mine. 14 stone. 5’3. Spine is riddle in problems. Operations been done. Blood pressure thru the roof. Leg cramps.

4 stone off. Have kept it off. Was on 5 drugs strong pain killers a day ,now on 1. I’m 49.

when they say it will all go an again. Say any diet does that if you don’t make changes.
easy option. Say I don’t see £170 a month as easy.

just do normal. Cut calories. Exercise. Say in the most sarcastic voice, yeay cos that works for the entire world doesn’t it. If it was as simple as that there would be no diet industry. No obesity. That’s ignorance.

if they say ur gonna screw with ur gallbladder, thyroid. Say any drug can do that nothing not even a paracetamol is risk free
but u all pop them.

if u want to be really petty. And this is me sorry lol

find out what drugs they all all on. Get on Google. Listen when they moan then about pain or whatever when they say ooh need to go take my xxxxxx say, oh did u hear about that woman who died taking that the other week. Wonder if she knew what she was putting into herself? Prescribed?? And???

if they say it will all go back on. Say I would rather be skinnier, on less drugs for other issues and fight to keep it off than be fatter, loads of health problems and fight to take it off. (This really is my new moto and this shuts them the fuck right up when I say I’m no longer on amitriptyline, tramadol ramapril and have halved my cocodamol in half daily.) I can now also jog. This is my big argument when they all start their shite.

keep doing you hun and all else just tell them to go educated them selves

u do t need to tell them a damn thing. But. Get somethings into your head so when they start saying daft things like don’t know what you’re putting into your body, say it’s a recommended official drug. Trialled and tested. It’s in the packaging what they are putting in. And it’s been recommended by your gp.

get some stories.
ill tell you mine. 14 stone. 5’3. Spine is riddle in problems. Operations been done. Blood pressure thru the roof. Leg cramps.

4 stone off. Have kept it off. Was on 5 drugs strong pain killers a day ,now on 1. I’m 49.

when they say it will all go an again. Say any diet does that if you don’t make changes.
easy option. Say I don’t see £170 a month as easy.

just do normal. Cut calories. Exercise. Say in the most sarcastic voice, yeay cos that works for the entire world doesn’t it. If it was as simple as that there would be no diet industry. No obesity. That’s ignorance.

if they say ur gonna screw with ur gallbladder, thyroid. Say any drug can do that nothing not even a paracetamol is risk free
but u all pop them.

if u want to be really petty. And this is me sorry lol

find out what drugs they all all on. Get on Google. Listen when they moan then about pain or whatever when they say ooh need to go take my xxxxxx say, oh did u hear about that woman who died taking that the other week. Wonder if she knew what she was putting into herself? Prescribed?? And???

if they say it will all go back on. Say I would rather be skinnier, on less drugs for other issues and fight to keep it off than be fatter, loads of health problems and fight to take it off. (This really is my new moto and this shuts them the fuck right up when I say I’m no longer on amitriptyline, tramadol ramapril and have halved my cocodamol in half daily.) I can now also jog. This is my big argument when they all start their shite.

keep doing you hun and all else just tell them to go educated them selves

Thank you & agree, ofc not first line.

Anyone any ideas for a meal plan whilst on mounjaro

Why all the defensiveness on this thread from users of weight loss drugs if everything is so peachy? Honestly, do none of you have any reservations at all? I don’t believe that.

Defensiveness because - like being fat - taking MJ is just another thing to judge us for.
And we have a right to defend ourselves and our choices.
Nothing to do with reservations. Everything to do with people who feel they have a right to comment on what I do with my body, be that eating myself into an early grave or taking medication to stop me eating myself into an early grave.

What’s given me pause is that medical doctors I know & respect would never consider themselves where appropriate. Orthopaedics the spec broadly but worried re: muscular atrophy or weakness in my limited understanding, will weights be lifted as required? But also more generally.

From my research the results speak for selves but likely just a cautious approach in line with profession. That said, our a couple of our GPs are on it & very open about it too!

But everything is peachy for me. Hence wanting to discuss misapprehensions and misunderstanding, or any judgement/prejudice.

Of course I had reservations about taking a prescription medication, but you weigh up (pardon the pun) the benefits and the risks. For me, there have been no downsides and a huge huge benefit.

Seriously? Why would anyone engage with you about any reservations they may have given the tone of your posts?

I think that the judginess about WLI has come because of the way they're prescribed tbh. GPs don't tend to prescribe them other than for diabetes, which means that somewhere, someone high up has made the decision that the cost of WLI medication isn't worth the decline there will be in obesity costs to the NHS. I have no idea why that is, but I suspect it will change if the evidence comes out that it would be cheaper for the NHS to prescribe WLI than to deal with the effects of obesity.

There has also been A LOT of attention in the media on people lying to get WLIs. It's very easy to do if you're savvy with photoshop, and I know many people that do it. This gives WLI the air of being a bit dangerous and unregulated, though I'm sure the vast majority of people use it correctly. Of course, people illegally obtain all sorts of medications, but you don't get them posting about it on SM, or chatting openly about how to cheat the system in order to get some.

It's a shame because, used correctly, I think it's an amazing thing.

I have only told a handful of people, and I am going to keep it that way. Too many people wading in with judgemental comments. I have other things to worry about…

I think that the judginess about WLI has come because of the way they're prescribed tbh. GPs don't tend to prescribe them other than for diabetes, which means that somewhere, someone high up has made the decision that the cost of WLI medication isn't worth the decline there will be in obesity costs to the NHS.

We know obesity is very poorly handled in the NHS, that many health professionals still believe that it is just a case of laziness and that eat less/move more being sufficient and that little or no training on the subject is given to student doctors. I think it is more likely that the 'higher ups' have not been through the extensive process that needs to happen yet for new guidelines to be issued, rather than that the decision has been made that these drugs are not worth it. Although with the state of the NHS finances, I have also seen the focus being on very short term savings rather than investment that saves in the long term - no hate on the finance people in the NHS, but this is what happens when funds are so catastrophically short. Decisions in the NHS are not supposed to be made on the basis of finances, but they are.

The NHS has planned a 12 year roll out of Mounjaro which is due to start in the summer this year. It will start with those who are at the very high end of obese, with several weight related health conditions. It will then be rolled out to people with fewer weight related health conditions and less high BMIs. That was a practical decision due cost and capacity.

I think the NHS will see a large benefit from the thousands of people who are privately self funding these medications sooner than their 12 year roll out will have widespread impact.

I’m not defensive and I’m finding it peachy. I get irritated by ignorance.

I’m taking something that mimics a natural hormone. It’s a natural hormone that is lacking in me. I suppose it’s similar to hormonal contraception in a way. With any medication you need to be aware of the risks and side effects and seek advice promptly if you have any concerns.

How many people that ‘worry about the long term side effects’ when they’ve no intention of taking it are on the pill I wonder?

I’m still struggling to understand why people who have no intention to use these drugs are worried about the long term side effects in people they don’t know. Why does it matter to them? What possible impact can it have! It’s not like you can be affected by second hand Mounjaro.

Wouldn’t mention MJ. Just keep eating well.

I’d love a bit of second-hand Mounjaro🤣. If only that was a thing!

My only reservation was whether or not I would actually be able to face injecting myself. It turns out I can and I have no further reservations.

I would have plenty more reservations about my type 2 diabetes and body weight remaining at dangerous levels than I would about taking medication designed to control them.

I would be interested to know if the people who are so rude/ignorant about WLI would also have problems with someone who has gastric sleeve surgery? If not, why not (I'd be willing to bet that for some it would be because the surgery is perceived as entailing the requisite amount of suffering that fat people deserve)?

Someone in my life that if I’m honest I wasn’t that keen on has lost 3 stone on MJ and gloats about her weight loss (without saying she’s on MJ, I know that from other sources). She’s lost 3 stone in 4 months. I’ve been dieting for 18 months and it’s been the most miserable 18 months of my life due to constant extreme horrendous hunger. I don’t qualify for MJ as my BMI is 25 but I want to lose more. It has made me hate this person - I know that makes me a horrible person and I’m not proud of it. I do think the weight loss injections are fantastic and would encourage anyone - I just wish we could all have them

This is exactly why I don't make it common knowledge that I am using them. The only people who know are my DD and DGD. It really pisses me off when people critisise those who use them, saying its 'cheating' or 'lazy'. I managed to lose 7 stone without weight loss injections,then got stuck for absolutely ages with 3 and a half stone still to lose,so I tried Wegovy. It was an absolute miracle and I've lost another 2 stone so far. I wonder whether these same people critisise drug users who use methadone to come off heroin,or nicotine patches to give up smoking,saying it's cheating? I suspect not. Being overweight is such a crime in a lot of people's eyes that they think you should suffer while losing the weight,after all,it's your own fault and you deserve to be punished! I think part of the problem is that some people are under the impression that you use the injections and it miraculously makes you lose weight,while you're still eating exactly the same amount as before. They don't understand that it kills your appetite.

No reservations here at all, I was prescribed it by NHS for T2 diabetes and snapped their hands off when they said I was eligible. Have lost 5 stone since September, sugar levels are consistently 8n the normal range now, gone from a size 22/24 to size 12, only have just over half a stone to hit my ultimate goal weight, have made it through the couch 25k programme and massively upped my exercise. Never had any side effects besides feeling the cold more and could not be happier that I had the opportunity to take Mounjaro. I expect to be on it long term due to the diabetes and I’m fine with that. If anyone asks how I lost the weight I tell them.

@TasWair the NHS currently CANNOT prescribe Mounjaro for weight loss, only for diabetes.

Stick to the required calories to lose weight, eat lots of protein and veg.

I actually pushed my obese teen to start taking it. I'd been on it for 8 weeks and lost about 1kg per week, and honestly it felt like a miracle cure. My teen has been on mounjaro for a few weeks now and is losing steadily.