Page 3 | BMI of 27, no other conditions. Can I get it?

ThatBeachLyfe · 2025-05-28T08:38:29+00:00

Just that really. Anyone find a pharmacy/distributor where you can get Mounjaro just for weightloss, with a qualifying BMI but without any accompanying health issues.

Summergarden · 29/05/2025 12:59

fedup1212 · 29/05/2025 11:33

This. I think it’s quite hypocritical that people taking MJ are telling overweight people to just diet. As if it that’s easy, and they should know all about the difficulties with “just dieting”

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The thing is though, is that only being a bit overweight eg BMI of 27 is likely to be as a result of consuming an extra couple of biscuits a day or being a bit over generous with mayonnaise on a salad. On the other hand when someone has progressed to obesity (the higher the BMI the more this is the case, eg mine was 42 at starting point) it takes many more calories to not only sustain the current weight but to continually increase it there is usually significant binge eating going on and being completely out of control with eating habits. This is often paired with insulin resistance/blood sugar issues and hence why MJ acts as a complete reset to be able to help resist binge eating while assisting with blood sugar regulation given that this is part of how it works and was designed originally for diabetics.

Yes it’s true that some people with a slightly overweight BMI might progress to major weight issues, insulin resistance and binge eating but equally many will not and it makes sense for them to avoid injecting prescription drugs if at all possible. If they’re able to just cut out those couple of biscuits at a tea break and lose the extra stone or two to bring them down to a healthy weight it makes far more sense.

SilenceInside · 29/05/2025 13:18

@Caddycat thanks. I was obese from childhood, so BMI has been over 28 since then. Except for a small time in my late teens, early 20s when I had extremely disordered eating. I’m not preaching anything to anyone, it is a matter of what the MHRA has decided based on the evidence. If you’re not obese then obesity prescription medication is not available to you, until/if you become obese, or develop weight related health conditions whilst being BMI greater than 27.

Caddycat · 29/05/2025 13:42

Summergarden · 29/05/2025 12:59

The thing is though, is that only being a bit overweight eg BMI of 27 is likely to be as a result of consuming an extra couple of biscuits a day or being a bit over generous with mayonnaise on a salad. On the other hand when someone has progressed to obesity (the higher the BMI the more this is the case, eg mine was 42 at starting point) it takes many more calories to not only sustain the current weight but to continually increase it there is usually significant binge eating going on and being completely out of control with eating habits. This is often paired with insulin resistance/blood sugar issues and hence why MJ acts as a complete reset to be able to help resist binge eating while assisting with blood sugar regulation given that this is part of how it works and was designed originally for diabetics.

Yes it’s true that some people with a slightly overweight BMI might progress to major weight issues, insulin resistance and binge eating but equally many will not and it makes sense for them to avoid injecting prescription drugs if at all possible. If they’re able to just cut out those couple of biscuits at a tea break and lose the extra stone or two to bring them down to a healthy weight it makes far more sense.

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It doesn't change the fact that it needs to be explained with kindness and understanding for the struggle. The OP came with a genuine question and got grief because in many peoples eyes, she's "thin". Everybody puts on weight for a variety of reasons, some can be helped, some less so. I think we've all been on the receiving end of "it's easy, eat less and exercise more", at one point or another. I think it's a bit rich for obese people to use such words with overweight people.

SilenceInside · 29/05/2025 13:50

I don’t think a single person called her thin, nor has anyone said it’s easy to eat less and exercise more.

SmallFried · 29/05/2025 14:47

I started with a BMI of 27. Now my BMI is 19.5 and I'm about to embark on maintenance.

Starting mj was honestly the best decision I've ever made.

A lot of people get very fruity and fired up about people taking mj when they are less than BMI 30, but those people usually don't realise that people with lower BMIs also often suffer excessive food noise, mental anguish over constant calories counting and food noise, have huge insecurities about their weight, and have been on yo-yo diets their whole life, just like many people a couple of BMI points or a stone or two higher.

For me, mj has been life changing and I regret nothing.

I will not recommend bumping up your weight on the online forms as I did, because I don't know your personal situation or risks or anything else.

However, I know I am not alone in having used mj at a lower weight than recommended. I feel amazing and I regret nothing.

SmallFried · 29/05/2025 14:49

Caddycat · 29/05/2025 10:13

@Willowy1982 is spot on. So many posts on here from people not qualifying are shot down and to me it seems overly harsh.
I often see complaints about skinny people trying to put others off WLIs as if they didn't want them to be thin too. I feel the same when I see people judging someone who is overweight asking about getting WLIs. Maybe I see this differently because I was not extremely obese. My BMI was just over 30, and only 3 weeks in, it is just over 28... so what's the difference really with someone starting at 28?

Exactly 💯 agree

SmallFried · 29/05/2025 14:53

Willowy1982 · 28/05/2025 13:44

I always find these threads really difficult to engage with, if I’m honest. Just to be absolutely clear—I would never condone lying or falsifying information to get prescription medication, and that’s certainly not what I’m suggesting with this post.

What I struggle with are the comments along the lines of "why would you even want weight loss injections?" or "just try this diet or that plan instead." I find that really disheartening. We know, both from research and personal experience, that dieting alone doesn’t work long-term for most people. If it did, the majority of us wouldn’t even be considering WLI in the first place.

Over a year ago, I was at a BMI of 27 and desperately trying to lose weight. My weight was impacting my health and how I felt day to day. I tried everything I could—but despite all my efforts, by the time August came, my BMI had increased to 30. Only then was I eligible for WLI.

I honestly wish I could have started earlier. Those extra months were filled with self-hatred, feelings of failure, and wondering what was wrong with me. I kept blaming myself when really, I was just up against a system and a biology that made sustained weight loss incredibly difficult.

As it turned out, WLI were surprisingly straightforward for me, and they worked very well. I’m now at a BMI of 20 and feel like the healthiest, most balanced version of myself I’ve ever been. More than that, I finally feel at peace in my own body—something I didn’t think was possible.

This isn’t about taking the “easy way out.” It’s about access to tools that actually help. And it’s about recognising that everyone’s journey is different. We need to make more space for compassion, nuance, and honesty when we talk about this.

You could be me! except I started at BMI 27.

Great post and v empathic. Thank you.

Dandelionsandseapinks · 29/05/2025 15:04

I think its something to do with raising blood pressure. If anyone is considering it I'd definitely get right into all of risks with the doctor, sometimes they seem to just wizz through them

Caddycat · 29/05/2025 15:36

SilenceInside · 29/05/2025 13:50

I don’t think a single person called her thin, nor has anyone said it’s easy to eat less and exercise more.

It's implied in the "why would you?", "you don't need it", "it's only 2 bmi points", "you're only slightly overweight"...

SilenceInside · 29/05/2025 16:08

Those things are all true, and not at all the same as saying that someone is thin….

fedup1212 · 29/05/2025 16:09

It IS minimising the OPs struggles though.

SilenceInside · 29/05/2025 16:11

Is it? I guess that’s a matter of perception.

C8H10N4O2 · 29/05/2025 18:04

Histoscientist · 29/05/2025 10:22

The difference is its legally not allowed to be prescribed to anyone under bmi 30 or 27 with health conditions or ethnic minority. No-one is shooting anyone down we are quoting and following the legal prescribing guidelines, which everyone else should follow as they are there for a reason and I'm a health care professional so I would never advise anything otherwise as guidelines are there for a reason mainly for health and safety and to minimise risk. In the clinical trials, they would have been used on obese patients so anyone who isn't obese and uses it is taking a massive risk as there is no data for them so they don’t know how non obese people would respond and react. One day it may change but for now it is as it is and we have to abide by them or if people lie to get them then they are going against guidelines and have bigger risks than someone who is obese with more fat on them that this medication is made for, it literally is injected in fatty areas of the body.
If you want to promote misuse and someone is seriously ill or dies then that's on you and anyone else who does the same and there is a lot already who done it with counterfeit medicine too and end up with sepsis, serious organ damage or dead, its just irresponsible and foolish, not to mention downright dangerous to go against guidelines!

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Legally? Do you actually mean on the NHS under NICE guidelines/Trusgt rationing criteria? I have a few colleagues who have gone privately and been prescribed injections at BMIs of around 27 without extra qualifying features and no particular problem, like most of the celebs writing about their experiences with weight loss jabs in the press. My colleagues described exactly the same type of food noise challenge and inability to keep lost weight off as @Willowy1982

I find the general judgementalism around medicinal help for weight loss fascinating. I wonder if such posters equally assume people have a character defect if they use nicotine patches to give up smoking and the drugs which help people avoid alcohol. Both of those are more often treated as “good” people seeking help for a problem.

If losing weight was so easy for people who need to we wouldn’t have a multi billion pound diet industry and the majority of “losers” putting the weight back on.

“just move more and eat less” simply doesn’t work for a great many people and the variation in internal processes managing appetite and food noise are still not that well understood.

This same attitude causes problems at the other end of weight problems where for those struggling to keep in health BMI from the low end struggle to get help and I was bombarded with “oh you are so lucky” responses however ill.

The food and diet industries with their endless marketing have done quite the number on us all.

PoopingAllTheWay · 29/05/2025 18:10

ThatBeachLyfe · 28/05/2025 10:10

No, no ethnicity issues that would likely apply. Can you lie about a health issue or does each pharmacy verify with your GP first, so if I don't have blood pressure issues for example, would they refuse to send it until my doctor confirms? Going to have mine checked today just in case but wondering if anyone's managed to circumvent checks...(i do realise how irresponsible and dangerous this sounds and that checks are there for a reason..)

You want to lie about having a health issue when you havent got one??????

Lets hope you dont get a real one anytime soon!!!!! 😡

Caddycat · 30/05/2025 20:09

C8H10N4O2 · 29/05/2025 18:04

Legally? Do you actually mean on the NHS under NICE guidelines/Trusgt rationing criteria? I have a few colleagues who have gone privately and been prescribed injections at BMIs of around 27 without extra qualifying features and no particular problem, like most of the celebs writing about their experiences with weight loss jabs in the press. My colleagues described exactly the same type of food noise challenge and inability to keep lost weight off as @Willowy1982

I find the general judgementalism around medicinal help for weight loss fascinating. I wonder if such posters equally assume people have a character defect if they use nicotine patches to give up smoking and the drugs which help people avoid alcohol. Both of those are more often treated as “good” people seeking help for a problem.

If losing weight was so easy for people who need to we wouldn’t have a multi billion pound diet industry and the majority of “losers” putting the weight back on.

“just move more and eat less” simply doesn’t work for a great many people and the variation in internal processes managing appetite and food noise are still not that well understood.

This same attitude causes problems at the other end of weight problems where for those struggling to keep in health BMI from the low end struggle to get help and I was bombarded with “oh you are so lucky” responses however ill.

The food and diet industries with their endless marketing have done quite the number on us all.

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The judgemental attitude to be is the same as when people glorify giving birth naturally and say that epidurals and c sections are the easy way out...