beginning to panic

[ashamedtramp]

ive used the injections very successfully for just over a year now, and am really happy with the results, but at christmas it was time to stop. my BMI was at 27, i was looking great and feeling great.

so i stopped.. and although i have not piled masses of weight back on, probs a couple of poounds, i'm panicing because my eating is now totally out of control and i don't want to be back there again.

i've now ordered another pen! i had to send photos in this time round, must be a new thing since i did them last year.

and now i wait for the answer.. what do i do if i can't have another prescription? am i destined to just get fat again? how do i curb these ridiculous binge eating sessions?

i really wish now, believe it or not, that i hadn't started the things in the first place, because i have been given happiness for the first time in years about my weight, and to attain it, im stuck (if i can get them) these injections.

anyone come off them successfully?

ive never been dishonest about it, all my replies have been i lack will power! I'm aware of it, i know its all about calories in v calories out.

if i didn't have the childhood trauma i have, would i maybe have more will power? possibly, its impossible to say. I would definately say that over eating is a mental issue or disorder.

I'm sorry, I'm a life long dieter, currently on WLI and you're just wrong here. If you under eat you will lose weight. Weight loss doesn't stop. It may slow, as your TDEE decreases and you lose muscle mass but eventually you will starve to death.

yeah.. there's some other stuff i won't bore people with, but heyho i am alive and i have a family of my own and i need to be fit and able enough to run around after their children..

we shall agree to disagree.

i think in the 80's saw the boom in take aways and convenience foods.. families didn't grow their own like we did in the 70's, and healthy food became more expensive where all the rubbish was cheap!

I mean sure, you can disagree with scientific facts if you like but you'll still be wrong! How do you think people die from anorexia if weight loss stops because people don't eat enough ?

the shame! pure and simple.. people who take these injections are shamed, judged. the only person in my real life who knows i am taking these is my DH and the chemist i collect them from! I am scared to tell my children, i have not told my friends.. because of all of the above comments!

my friends and family all think i am losing weight by calorie counting and exercise alone, which in part is true. i DO have to calorie count on these injections or i don't lose weight, i DO have to exercise. that weekly injection is basically full of willpower!

i can stand the cost at the moment, but it would be nice to be able to get all my ducks in a row, and stop using them, but it seems more and more likely that this won't happen.

completely different arguement.

oh bless you.

Its not that, it's UPF, do your homework. More calories are generated in a UPF version of the same food that is not processed, and the body then gets a metabolic block from processing the food.

That is what has driven obesity, the processing of food.

@ashamedtramp the other thing you can look at is micro dosing as a maintenance plan, using half doses over 10 days and just keeping a low level of the WLI in your system to help with the noise and gradually wean yourself off

OUSHK is a service that specialises in maintenance, they have a support service too, have a look and see what you think. they are a lot cheaper than the big brands too

You are right @ashamedtramp

It's well established that metabolism is flexible and adjusts to the amount of fat you have, food intake etc. Many serial dieters end up with metabolisms that are in big trouble, because they adjust to cope with fewer calories, but tend not to adjust so well in the other direction. So you end up with this cycle of weight loss, then weight loss stops as metabolism shifts, you give up and go back to eating how you used to, and then put on way more weight because you now require fewer calories than you did before. It seems very difficult to fix too, unfortunately 😩

Why is everything @Quickstroll writing being deleted? @MNHQ if they are a troll, ban them...

UPF happened. that is the time line.

I don’t know if this will help but once I’ve reached my target I’m going to work backwards with the injection to the lowest dose and stay on it for a few months whilst putting my plan in place. And that is to always, for the rest of my life, stay in a calorie deficit for my meals and have a daily 500 calories I can eat however I want, as long as I’m having good nutrition for most of them with a glass of wine or a biscuit/chocolate a few times a week if I fancy it.

I also practice being hungry and when im hungry I think of the stories I’ve read from slim people where they’ve made it very clear they’re not lucky to be slim, they have to work at it and make the right choices to stay slim. For some reason it’s that last bit that’s really helped me get my head around so much on this journey.

Sorry but no you won’t. There are plenty of people who undereat permanently and their bodies adapt to it and their weight stabilises. I don’t know if you used to watch supersize vs superskinny but the skinnies on there often were eating really low calorie diets despite being active - there was a guy who survived on coffee and cigarettes with one meal a day - averaging about 1400 calories which is very low for a 6ft man. He underate but he wasn’t at risk of starving to death as he still got sufficient calories for his body to keep running but he wasn’t steadily losing weight. Your body gets super efficient. Obviously if you eat practically nothing (a few hundred calories a day) you will die of starvation but there is such a thing as your metabolism adapting.

What happened there is that the person's body weight and muscle mass dropped to the point where their TDEE is matched by the calories they consume. That's a different argument to the one being made that people with excess body fat who eat 'too little' will slow or stop seeing weight loss.

That’s not what happened in that episode. I think you misunderstood it. No one, but no one can maintain body weight when under eating, otherwise we wouldn’t have anorexics, or people throughout history who didn’t just die of starvation, their bodies were skeletal. What you’re writing makes no sense.