beginning to panic

[ashamedtramp]

ive used the injections very successfully for just over a year now, and am really happy with the results, but at christmas it was time to stop. my BMI was at 27, i was looking great and feeling great.

so i stopped.. and although i have not piled masses of weight back on, probs a couple of poounds, i'm panicing because my eating is now totally out of control and i don't want to be back there again.

i've now ordered another pen! i had to send photos in this time round, must be a new thing since i did them last year.

and now i wait for the answer.. what do i do if i can't have another prescription? am i destined to just get fat again? how do i curb these ridiculous binge eating sessions?

i really wish now, believe it or not, that i hadn't started the things in the first place, because i have been given happiness for the first time in years about my weight, and to attain it, im stuck (if i can get them) these injections.

anyone come off them successfully?

Is there an obesity equivalent to mansplaining? Slim-splaining? Whatever it is, it's fucking tedious.

What a relief. Hoorah for @Spottyshirt 😳

oh no! i didnt think of that!!

please don't assume that i simply injected myself and sat on the sofa for a year!.. I still had to count calories, i took on the services of a PT instructor, i go to the gym 3 or 4 times a week! I'm probably fitter than you are right now!

of course i made changes to everything, its was lovely not having all that food noise around me! and to be honest i was probably naive to think that at the end of my journey, once i reached my goal that the compulsion to eat would have also diminished!

I am still using my PT instructor, and I still go to the gym 3 or 4 times a week. I am still counting my calories! i just seem to have zero willpower against all the snacks!

I haven't gained masses back, I think i'm maybe worrying that I can't do this with the injections! Part of me is hoping I don't get approved, then really I have no choice but the crack on do i?

I was hoping somone could come on here with some advice thats not the usual 'move more, eat less blah blah blah' rubbish.

thank you, i shall look into it. I am aware that there is previous childhood trauma that is most likely the cause of my issues with food, so perhaps i need to swap paying for the injections for paying for therapy ?

I will stay on it forever if it helps me not over eat 🙄 rather jab and be more active and healthy then my terrible relationship with food come back

Can I ask gently why you decided to stop At a bmi of 27 and not aim for a healthy bmi? Not stay on a low dose to maintain?

did you taper down to see how you coped? If you’ve only put on 2 lbs, then that’s maintaining?

thats a good question... i stopped for a few reasons, 1) cost. 2) i thought that i would have to stop at a BMI of 27 anyway. 3) i don't want to be on them for life, and i sort of semi-tapered but not formally or properly. and 4) because of my level of exercise, i am beginning to gain muscle, and as we all know, although muscle does not weigh as much as fat, its is much denser, so although i look leaner, im still at a BMI of 27. i personally feel if i lose the recommended further 2 stone, i'll just look thin and gaunt, as i feel I am nearly at that point now?

you are correct, a couple of pounds would be withi my maintenance, but i am so terrified of putting the weight back on i can honestly say i have panicked!

i initially started losing weight obviously for my health, and i need a new hip which i have been informed i cannot have until my BMI is under 30. of course now i have a BMI of 27, now i am being told i can't have the hip until i reach the age of 60!

I am much fitter and healthier, and losing the weight has had a massive positive impact on my joints, but its not cured the issue and even though i exercise 3 or 4 times a week (and i mean proper hard exercise not just a treadmill walk) i am still in a massive amount of pain!

What I tried to remember when I stopped last year was that my body managed fine on reduced calories and I didn't need to eat more.

But I did eat more, and I gained ten pound and I'm doing it again. This time I'm doing maintenance with oushk when I get there and will probably go low dose for life.

so, i have been approved for another pen. i went with my usual supplier, so they already had my history over the year and i did explain why i stopped. i sent my photos in, and my application has been totally transparent and above board (i notice on some posts people suggest lying about height etc which i was not prepared to do).

i have taken onboard a lot of comments, and yes i do need to deal with the 'why'. but my plan moving forwards is allow myself another 6 months, and in that time really focus on getting those eating habits nailed down and then i will decide then if i will taper off or if i will just accept i will need the maintenance dose for the foreseeable future.

the top end of a healthy weight for me is 184 pounds which is where i am now, and the bottom end is 164, so i may aim for the middle ground of about 174 which will put me at about a BMI of 26 (i am an older lady and a higher BMI is recommended of between 25 to 27). thats only 10lbs, so once i reach that, then i shall just maintain until the end of the 6 months if i reach it sooner rather than later if any of that makes any sense.

Ah yes, therapy. That well known cure for obesity. When I take the injection my desire to binge is cut off. When I don’t take it, it’s there all the time and it doesn’t matter how much therapy I have. That’s it. It’s physiological.

Hi @ashamedtramp I watched this Oprah interview the other day and found it really interesting. They talk about why obesity is a disease, and, as such, many people will just stay on the injections for life. The same way a diabetic would stay on insulin for life. You might find it interesting/helpful.

Sorry can't figure out how to do a clicky link.

Oh! I did do a clicky link. 😆

😂😂..

by reading some of the replies, i am clearly just a greedy fat piggy! how dare i use something to help me with my food addiction! irrespective of it i pay for it myself rather than being a drain on the NHS budget!

no one bats an eye at druggies who get their methodone for free on prescription at a cost to the tax payer.. they don't get scolded for turning to drugs in the first place, or alcoholics... but because i like food... shame on me for trying to help myself!

It's always the same, and often the same people who know it all. Noone knows your body and metabolism like you do. I'm nearly 57 and peri menopausal. It's much different to being 25 and full of vigour. Just do the best you can Day by day and you'll get results.

Use old photos

@ashamedtramp I think your 6 month plan sounds really sensible and should hopefully give you the chance to plan for maintenance and how to cope with the changes that stopping Mounjaro will bring. Or deciding to stay on it for the meanwhile. I think, hopefully, your panic has died down a bit?

absolutely not! i disagree 100% with cheating the system! its there for a reason!

thank you! i think i just assumed i could stop it and all would be well! i did a sort of half hearted effort at tapering off, but if i am honest, it was rubbish!

it's a little sad really that i know i have a precription to collect and start again, it has made me feel better and to be honest i have always eaten my feelings, so the stress and anxiety of the prospect of gaining more weight was making me more and more anxious and thus the wheel turns.

i would have liked to have heard from more people who have stopped and managed to keep their weigh off, and i'll keep ever hopeful that they are out there.

i agree. the problem is WHY people eat too much! there are some medical reasons why people put on weight. I've had 2 major back surgeries and was out of action for 2 years, and gained most of my weight there. i have childhood trauma and eat my feelings, so weight has always been an issue for me. its very easy to say to someone 'eat less, move more' but in reality, thats not always possible.

there's a whole host of reasons why people are overweight, sadly i am not one of those lucky people who has her shit together, is naturally skinny and eats a healthy diet. i like food!

You're simply wrong. Obesity is a disease in the same way alcoholism is a disease. It may originate from excessive behaviour but it becomes a disease by all definitions of the term.

@ashamedtramp this is the maintenance thread that I was thinking of:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/weight-loss-injections/5252687-youve-reached-your-goal-weight-come-chat-about-maintenance-not-regaining-going-cold-turkey-or-titrating-down?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share