BMI 29.8, do I just put on a few more lbs?!

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I have reached a point where I am seriously unhappy with my weight. It has crept up after two children and I’m now mid thirties and it’s harder to shift. I’ve been buying bigger, baggier clothes and ignoring it but whilst attending an appointment with the nurse for something else today I asked her to weigh me to calculate my BMI and it is 29.8 - I’m appalled!

From what I’ve read I’d need a BMI of 30 to qualify for mounjaro, so I’m just under. What should my next steps be? Put on a few lbs - will anyone have to weigh me? Enter a slightly higher reading into the online form?! Will my GP be contacted? I’m a novice, please talk me through it…

What risks?

Well yes actually. There's long been talk of a combination drug that is a preventative for these conditions 👍

I believe some people currently take metfornin when pre diabetic or at risk of diabetes

People are using terms like "morally" wrong or right. They wouldn't use this term for so many other things. People are very judgmental when it comes to weight loss. I find it disgusting really.

I'm not on weight loss jabs, haven't applied to get any or am I obese btw. Just get sick of reading the same old ill informed sneering and censorious comments

@tobee my blood pressure is normal because I take a treatment to normalise it. MJ is a treatment to normalise weight from obesity, it is not tested as a "preventative" and Eli Lilly strongly states it is for the treatment of serious illness which includes the health risks associated with obesity and it should not otherwise be used.

If metfornin has been test for pre diabetes of course it should be used to treat that before it leads to being diabetic. The key difference being it has been tested and approved. Perhaps Eli Lilly will go on to test MJ for lower weight groups (so they can make more money!) and most importantly prove its safety and benefits for that group, I hope they do to give people choices, I wish it was available before I spiralled into and spent the last decade morbidly obese which I wouldn't like to see anyone do, but right now it hasn't and for now I am just thankfully it is there for those that are medically eligible.

Oh yes of course I agree only if it's regulated.
I believe they are looking into using it as a preventative. Possibly in a different form. I say “they” I mean the various drug companies developing these drugs

I think that’s kind of the question of the thread? About the way it is regulated has some inconsistencies that haven’t been worked through yet. The obvious one being start taking at 30 bmi and over and then being considerably less than that and continuing where others just under 30 can’t.

@tobee because you are classed as obese at 30 or above. My GP told me that if you are below 30 the risks and side effects don't outweigh the benefits.

OP , there will always be posters here who will always follow any direction to the absolute letter, and posters who are able to sit more comfortably in the grey areas of life.

BMI is a blunt tool at best, and has been widely acknowledged to be so. Of course there isn't the same magic tipping point for everyone where it's suddenly too risky to take it, and I wouldn't personally feel comfortable lying or putting weights in my pockets. But if you're almost there I'd weigh myself at night having just eaten a meal and that will probably do the trick.

I didn't do it consciously but my BMI was not much over 30 when I started and I am definitely an obesogenic person whose weight was only ever going upwards (me with BMI 31 was my body midway through piling back all the weight I'd lost three years ago... I knew what direction things were going in).

There seems to be a bit of resentment here towards those who don't have as much to lose, as though we're maybe not deserving enough. So my advice, don't lie to your provider, but you're almost there and it's a fantastic tool. Good luck.

As much as I’m a rule follower when it’s this borderline I would. I really do not see why you should go and put on 4lbs or whatever so you can get the drugs. As it is so very marginal I think it is fine.

@85reasons
I think you're right in this particular case - it's so close, a good meal and an evening weigh-in will probably do it (it's what...a couple of lbs?).
More generally, however, I think we have to be responsible in terms of advice given to those who don't meet the criteria (we can't verify anything an anonymous poster is claiming afterall). These drugs are powerful and very open to abuse, and the risks to people of low weight and EDs are very real.
I didn't meet the criteria when ozempic first came to market. I was disappointed but just shrugged and carried on trying, unsuccessfully, to manage my weight without WLMs. It didn't cross my mind to try and fiddle things. That's life, in my view.

Those marketers at the Pharmacy companies really must be rubbing their hands with glee. After so many years of the British generally take nmedical advice and direct marketing of pharmaceuticals being pointless, suddenly we have people self diagnosing and lying to get the drug they want rather than having s as discussion with a medical doctor and being prescribed the best weight loss drug for them or being advised the best weight loss method.
The eligibility criteria are there for your own safety. If you can deliberately gain a few pounds then you can deliberately lose a few pounds too.

No one here knows if it's fine (or not) and probably everyone can understand why you might want to tweak the truth to get medication you think will be helpful. Most of us would have desperately wished we could have had help at a BMI of 29.8 rather than the 39.8 we had to wait for.

What is NOT helpful is going online and telling everyone you are going to lie to get the medication - especially as you seem set that it's a path you want to take regardless of what's said. These drugs are getting a bad image and stuff like this just feeds that image, imo. Plus, I think it a bit irresponsible because you never know who might be reading that would be influenced into doing something that may harm them in some way. It's not helpful to be visibly normalising lying to get drugs.

Actually anyone over bmi 25 has an increased risk of health disease but with 2/3 being that amongst uk adults a line was drawn at 30 and 27 for co-morbidities. Get it, do it, be healthier but think about what you will do to keep it off after you are done

Update: accepted for the prescription with no further questions asked so the image I shared with them must suggest that I do actually look obese… which in itself is mortifying and a good motivator to get things moving in the right direction with a helping hand!

My BMI is way over 30. I asked for weight loss injections from my GP and was refused because I'm not pre diabetic.

Go and nhs won't provide them

You need to pay private

With what you have said about being very close to an eating disorder being the only time you were happy with your weight I would be very concerned. You shouldn't have been prescribed this if they had that (highly relevant) information. Please be very careful OP.

My BMI was 29. I was very fat indeed but not ‘BMI of 30 fat’ 🥴

I adjusted my height.

'Adjusted'. Right Ok 👍

Hi, where did u buy from? My bmi is just under 30 too.

I use mounjaro and my starting BMI is 28 without any medical problems. I simply send my photo and you van clealry see that i’m fat. Its the best ever. I lost 2stone in 2 months.

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just try mounjaro. Its the best thing ever

So you lied @Femme2804 and @BookishType

and said was shorter then you are to then raise your bmi to over 30 ?

No i dont lie about my height. Why you assume i lied? I’m not stupid to put something on my body if its not allowed. They ask me to send my picture and i send it and its clearly you can see rolls and fat and medexpress just approve my mounjaro. I’m size 20 so its big! Eventhough my bmi 28. Now i’m size 12-14. Never been happier.

Because you said your bmi is under 30 so 28 and no medical issues

So really surprised that a provider would say yes to you as 28 not 30

People have been known To tweak an inch or two off their height as no one checks height but some ask for proof of scales for weight and then suddenly they have a bmi of 30