Feeling deflated but I know it's unwarranted.

[Moujojojo]

NC.

Been on MJ for 3 weeks and lost 8lbs
Which is amazing, I know. But the first week was 6lbs of that and I imagine mostly water weight

So 1lb the week after and another 1lb the 3rd week.

First week I had AMAZING suppression and no white food noise at all

2nd week it seemed to tail off after 3/4 days.

This week it's done nothing. I just feel totally normal and peckish

I have had a gastric sleeve so that would explain a little maybe why I felt the suppression so hard at first, it was like the first few months after having my sleeve again.

I know 2.5mg isn't supposed to be a medicinal dose so I'm hoping it works better when I take 5mg but I don't know.

I just thought by the end of the first 4 weeks I might be approaching 14bs, not hovering around half that.

You thought you would lose 3.5 pounds of fat per week at a barely therapeutic dose? But why did you think that?

Keep going, drinks loads of water, stick to your diet and eat a calorie deficit (I ate 500 less than my TDEE), stay focused on your goal.

Some people have reported needing the higher doses to get the suppression, in a week you can start 5mg. Think Marathon not a sprint.

It's okay to feel deflated but don't compare yourself to others or expect too much on 2.5mg. You've only just started. Get to atleast 5mg, then hopefully things will start looking better. Also remember that some people don't see any/much weightloss till the higher doses (from 7.5mg). You're losing at least so that's a good thing. Slow and steady.

Because there was a post about losses and it seemed most people lost a stone the first month

My sister and mother and best friend all did over 14lbs the first month

I think maybe I'll get DH to take the scales away and bring them back out in 4 weeks

I'm approaching the end of my MJ 'journey' (lol) and my best advice would be to look back on your losses at the end of each month. So you tot up the lbs lost over a 30 (or 31) day period. Then you will see it properly and feel much more motivated

I started at nearly 15 stone and I'm now 9 stone 9. I've been on it for 6 months in total and had many weeks where I'd lose a lb or fluctuate up and then I'd have a week where 5 lbs would come off

Just trust the process whilst keeping in a calorie deficit and all will be well. I've never had food suppression and often feel peckish but I find I don't need as much as before to feel satisfied

I agree with others op, it’s about adjusting your behaviours and that takes time. Otherwise when you stop the jabs, you may find you put weight back on.

if you only focus on what you should be losing, you are not noticing that you are still losing, losing a little bit is much better than big losses that can’t be sustained.

i say this as someone who has been on the jab for 3 months, consistent losses, some small some better, but all loss.

as you move up the doses you may find a dose that works well for you.

slowly does it,

Some people respond from the 2.5mg dose some don't, it is difficult but you need to not compare your journey too much with others and accept your own body's respond to the medication.

Also remember the medication is only a tool to help suppress your appetite. Your weight loss is determined by your calorie deficit. Have you worked out your TDEE, calorie deficit, are you tracking calories and how much are you in deficit? Are you prioritising protein and fiber, veg. Reduce carbs (rice, pasta, bread, potatoes etc). Drinking 2L of water (some say more, I have tried but really need to push myself to the 2L mark).

The dose strength may determine how easy or difficult those things are to do, but you still need to do the hard bit, change your eating habits, and do them.

The myth that MJ makes this easy, raises such high expectations, it is a wonderful tool, but that is all it is. You might just be a slow loser, but you will get there.

No most people don't lose a stone in their first month. Some very obese people might because they can easily create a huge deficit in calorie intake but people who are 'just' a few stone over healthy weight will not be able to do that without eating basically nothing, which is not something to aspire to. You know that each lb of fat lost requires a deficit of 3500 calories? If you were to lose 3.5 lbs a week you would need a deficit of 12250 calories and if your daily calorie usage (TDEE) is around 2400 (16800 per week) you'd have to reduce to 650 calories a day. It is sensible to educate yourself about these things if you're going on a weight loss journey.

What matters is where you are a year from now, two years from now...

I had lost 7 lbs after 3 weeks.

In many ways it feels like hardly any time at all since I took that first injection but now I am over 2 st down, and confident that there will be more hiccups along the way (side effects/stalls etc) but I'll get through them and go on to lose a lot more weight. I never expected to lose faster (I'm 51 and aren't that active at the moment, also years of yo yo dieting) - maybe that is the difference? Gives your skin chance to adjust too - losing a bit slower (not that I actually think you're losing slowly!).

Just keep going - that's all you can do! Here are my losses if it helps...weeks 8-11 I hardly lost at all, despite during week 8 being down nearly 6 lbs at one point due to diarrhoea - all but nearly 1 lb was back on again by the end of the week! Body just rebelled a bit I think. If I wasn't on MJ I would've probably thrown in the towel - but that is why it is so great...I just kept going and I am so glad I did.

I've lost 7 stone already. I'm at the END of my journey

I am aware of these things and I didn't say in my title it's unwarranted
I just wanted to talk about my feelings.

I hear you OP, 2.5mg did nothing for me and 5mg is much better. You know rationally not to expect anything from 2.5 but it is disheartening when other seem to lose loads on 2.5 and don’t even need to move up!

Honestly I get it, I haven’t lost massive numbers in 8 weeks. BUT, there are different reasons for big losses - some just naturally respond very well, others were eating huge amounts of calories in the run up to the first dose, thus creating sharp deficits and I have seen plenty of folks who are still in ‘diet’ mode - the ones who eat so little, that without MJ it would only be sustainable for a few weeks before they crash.

I take comfort in knowing that my slow loss is consistent and manageable. I’m looking after my health by eating at a sensible deficit and able to manage my macros. I am also minimising loose skin with a slower loss. I am working at understanding my natural responses around food, and not relying entirely on MJ to stop me falling back into bad habits. And lastly, I don’t know if its me, but I see a correlation between slower responders and lower side effects - mine are super manageable!! I love I can still enjoy food with family, got for lunch and not feel like I am looking or feeling odd or restrictive with what I eat!

take comfort in the positive and remain consistent. Take comfort in non scale victories.

I sympathise with you @Moujojojo I am on day 3 of my 4th injection and I have had a similar trajectory to you.

For me my biggest frustration is that I feel like I am having to use as much willpower as I did on SW but for a lot more money. I still seem to constantly be thinking about food and have to really make a choice not to have sweet treats.

It is still early days though and I know this is not the therapeutic dose. I took part of the bonus dose this week so 3.75mg and I feel a bit more suppression so fingers crossed for the 5mg next week.

Well done on you 7 stone to date and good luck with MJ.

So you know it's not physiologically possible but hoped for it anyway? Why?

Because it happened for 3 other people I personally know...

@CameronStrike
I did.. some do.
Don't be so adverse.

But the harsh reality is that what happens for other people in terms of weight loss is no guarantee of what it'll do for us. Even if you were the same weight, living the same life, eating the same food / calories as each other ... still no guarantee.
I've readjusted my mindset that using MJ is about helping to achieve consistent long-term weight loss, not losing large numbers quickly.

I've been on a plateau for six months now, up and down the same 2lb. Lost 52, 48 to go. It's frustrating but if you are doing everything right it will eventually come off. If you are cheating, it won't.

@Moujojojo I think we are all so conditioned by the 'diet' industry (and to a certain extent society!) that our emotions are very tied up in weight loss and see big losses as a 'success' and feel we are failing if we don't lose or lose a small amount.

I also think that the press around glp1 meds has been screaming about massive, super quick losses when that is not the reality for everyone.

Having had bariatric surgery, your body is likely to respond slightly differently to the medication.

My best advice would be not to compare yourself to anyone else (hard, I know) and not to allow daily/weekly losses to affect your mood. As long as the overall trend is downwards, all is fine👍

Thankyou for this.

@Moujojojo I've been on Mounjaro since end of June and I’ve lost 1st 11lb so far, an average of about 1.68 lb per week. I’m still on 5mg as it makes me feel tired and the first few days after the jab I get strong suppression and struggle to eat. It gets better after day 3. I’m actually happy that it’s been a slower loss as people have only asked if I’ve lost weight fairly recently, so I can honestly answer that I’ve been watching what I eat since June (but I don’t share that it’s due to MJ). As the loss has been gradual I don’t think anyone suspects that I’ve had extra help.

I've still got another 2st to go to get to my goal (BMI in the healthy mid-range) and I guess that will take another 4 months or so, but luckily I can afford it. Weirdly I think Mounjaro is helping me be chilled out about losing at a slower rate than others.

You will get there.

If you’re at the end of your journey are you meant to be taking it ? It’s not meant to be prescribed for under BMI of 30 but it would explain smaller losses

Apologies, I am new, but how do you make the 3.2 or 4.2 dose if it only comes in 2.5 and 5?