Met office RED WARNING for extreme heat.

[OhYouBadBadKitten]

General discussion is www.mumsnet.com/talk/weather/4583720-we-need-to-talk-about-the-weather-and-the-potential-for-extreme-heat but I wanted this to be seen by as many people as possible.
www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/warnings-and-advice/uk-warnings#?date=2022-07-18

😂😂😂
Run along to the Met Office then and tell them to call off the red warning due to your memory

What you are saying is really unpleasant and also quite ignorant.

Firstly, people who are nice tend to care care about people being unwell and dying. Some of them I know so it affects me personally, but even where it does not affect me personally more death does not increase the sum total of human happiness.

Secondly, the government (not me, the government) has stated that that the risk of ill health and death is NOT just in the vulnerable. The plan, published by the UK Health Security Agency and the NHS, states that at level 4 “illness and death may occur among the fit and healthy, and not just in high‑risk groups”.

Just as with COVID, I wish any deaths would only be in the people who are uncaring about the prospect of deaths

That wasn't what I meant
I mean people who are "oh it is only those with underlying health conditions" could wake up tomorrow morning and suddenly find they have an underlying health condition
I did

I meant we aren't all born with diabetes or cancer or heart issues, you get them in your life
So while people are spouting that it's only "other people", they could well be someone who is diagnosed with cancer next week, or has a heart attack or gets COPD

I was fine. And then I wasn't

Ireland has issued a ‘ high temperature’ warning for Monday and Tuesday. Temps will be high 20’s low 30’s. Also warnings for forest fires and water safety warnings. The shops are thronged with people buying paddling pools, BBQs and alcohol. Emergencies services will have a very few busy days. The red warning in the UK is of course merited. If Ireland had similar forecasts as UK the whole country would close down. 😀

We've just had a week of 42-46c plus many forest fires - we got close to evacuating on Saturday. My 'fail safe' way of keeping cool is to wear a damp t-shirt; it's blissful.

That is extreme, I can’t imagine 46c

It's DS 1st birthday Tuesday. We was going to the zoo but that's off now. Thinking the beach but that also seems madness. We're in London anywhere we could drive within 2 hours that would be cooler and we could stay overnight?

Try a small paddling pool indoors (if you have wooden floors though).
Towels below it just in case, fill to an acceptable level with cold water and Bingo .
I done this when we lived in a Maisonette.

Some people are talking bout how people in other countries cope so this story seems relevant. A friend lived in Spain when she had her first child but had her second here. Her first was born in Spain and lived there for his first three years. They regularly go to visit family and her and her first born cope fine with the heat. Her British husband and British born child not so much. Don’t know why this would be but I guess this is is such a big deal as we are just not equipped to cope.

I've got a pre-op on Monday, at a hospital 20 miles away. I have to go by bus (husband is working and ironically is a bus driver). I have to catch two buses and then walk up a big hill from the station.
I have trouble walking (which is what the operation is for), but even more so when it's hot, add in the fact that my asthma has been giving me hell when it's hot, I really don't want to go (plus the fact I've got the pre-op means the op must be soon, but we're going on holiday in August, plus DD needs a lot of things for the new school year bought during the holidays - the op means I won't be able to walk for 3 - 6 months, and totally bedbound for 8 weeks).
DD's school has also moved to remote learning due to the heat next week, so don't want to leave her for hours.
Not sure what to do. I feel I can't phone up and rearrange today as they'll laugh at me.

Oh wow this sounds rough.

It sounds like there are two separate issues--getting to the pre-op appointment in the heatwave, and the scheduling of your op potentially conflicting with other things.

For the first: cancelling might be the best choice, but otherwise I would say factor in extra time for your journey so you can do the walking parts as slowly as possible. Take drinking water (extra bottle in the freezer overnight so it is nice and cold as it melts). Wear a sun hat and stick to the shade as much as possible. Put a damp teatowel in the freezer the night before and take it along to put on the back of your neck as you travel. Is a taxi a possibility for any part of the journey?

For the second, I think you and your family need to think about what works best for you, get information about op date if possible and keep in mind that it will be inconvenient no matter when it happens. Good luck.

Don’t drive anywhere. Cars will be conking out left, right and centre. The last place you want to be is stuck in a motorway traffic jam.

@buggeringbuggery I am an idiot who doesn't know how to quote so the above was directed at you! Sorry!

might take a trip to the aquarium for the hottest day.
all that cool water in massive tanks....

Anyone else not being allowed to wfh on Mon/ Tues?

Not only this - we have an outdoor work gathering in the afternoon and it’s still going ahead.

@CousinKrispy thank you. I will see how I feel on Monday, but don't want to cancel as I will probably go, just catastrophising. The op hasn't been explained properly, just a few minutes with the consultant who said we'll do this and that, but you will need to be in bed with leg up for a while. DH can't take time off at the moment, aargh!!! I haven't got a date at all.

I want to go to work as it is air conditioned!

why will cars be conking out left right and centre. I realise our roads might not be designed for extremes of heat, but people do run cars in hotter weather

Namechangenoidea

Im finding it really strange all the panic. The people that are worried the most, are you people who havent travelled to really hot countries before? I go Cyprus most years in August and its always that heat and its fine. When I was younger I used to get drunk in the day in that heat in Cyprus. People who are panicking honestly it will be fine dont worry

I'm finding your ignorance really strange....

@BrightYellowDaffodil I've read half this thread and was just skipping to the end to say how much hotter I was in Southwark,SE London in 2019 .

It was terrible ,the nights didn't seem to drop in temperature and the air was still .Today is ,by comparison ,quite pleasant .

I can only guess that in 2019 we had a longer run of hot days so that the heat built .This last week there has been some difference in temp at night and there has been some slight movement of air . All re where I live .

I get that we are predicted to have 2 (3 ? ) days of v high temps next week and that we've had a few hot days recently .But there have been dips .How many days qualify for the description heat wave ?

The hottest I have been in the UK was the heatwave of 1990 in London. Most places did not have fans never mind air conditioning. The highest recorded temperature was in Cheltenham at 37.1 degrees. I was young and doing a physical job. By lunchtime, we were all shattered in the heat.
I do not remember one single thing changing. Employers made no concessions and schools stayed open. Not saying this is a good thing. We just all melted.

Severely asthmatic cancer patient here, I'll be doubling up on my Inhalers a few days before., WFH but moving my hours to early morning late evening, (I'm fortunate I can do this) and sticking on the sprinkler in the garden for some cooling respite.

I'm more concerned for my very elderly dogs, both with heart and kidney issues, they will be under damp teatowels in front of a fan and having frequent cool baths

RAC advice issued before the red warning and level 4 emergency was declared.
www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motoring-news/extreme-heat-warning-should-you-be-driving/

Johnson is at Chequers, having missed yesterday's Cobra meeting, which discussed heatwave issues.

Sounds like he's checked out, some 6 or 7 weeks before he actually goes.

IME Apple weather (or whatever comes as standard on iPhones) is more accurate than the BBC, and they are forecasting lower temperatures where we are (South East coast).

For this Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Apple forecasts 27°, 29°, 28° while the BBC is forecasting 27°, 33°, 30°.

Am I the only one actually looking forward to it?