Over heard conversation in Asda today re: jars

[jmum6]

Was in Asda buying follow on milk when 2 women came looking at the baby food.

'Really can't be doing with cooking for him' says one woman.

'No' says the other 'what a waste of time.'

Didn't know whether to laugh or cry. :o

One thing that gets me - why is post natal depression used as a possible excuse on MN for otherwise 'good' mothers to do something perceived as 'naughty', like bottle feed or give your child jars or stick them in front of the TV or send them to a day nursery - all of which have been on here in the past few weeks with strong opinions expressed, only to be countered by "Don't judge her, she may have been suffering pnd."

Have I misread this wordsmith?
I am finding it hard to see this as positive....

I mentioned PND.

Because I have been and still am suffering from it.

It has had various negative effects on me including lethargy, lack of motivation, lack of patience, sense of worthlessness, short temper etc etc etc

Your excuse was you couldnt/didnt think you could cook. PND was mine. I dont think anyone has suggested otherwise with regard to PND.

I am guessing you have never had PND because you show a distinct lack of understanding of it. For example, Manic Depression is not the same as PND for a start.

Oh Chapsmum that's not at all what I was saying. I certainly wouldn't underestimate the effects of pnd. But I was trying to point out that several times in the past few weeks, the "don't judge, she may have pnd" line has been used - yes of course she may, but she also may just have wanted to use jar food/a bottle/a childminder! It's somehow, in some quarters, seen as something a 'good' mother wouldn't do if she was of sound mind!

I know jars are nutritional - I used them myself. I certainly don't think they're child abuse as Enid has said. But I still stand by my argument that if more people were taught how to cook, they'd use them less. They'd also buy fewer ready-prepared lasagnes and the like too - it's not just baby food.

And by the way I did put 'naughty' food in quotes and qualified it by saying ... 'perceived as 'naughty''. That should have been a big hint that it's not actually my opinion! If you could have seen the amount of crap i've eaten today you'd know I'm the last person to judge!

It also makes you quite sensitive to opinions about it......

I think i know what you meant, but you havent been a "Wordsmith" with that post lol!

Agree Vicki, lockets am having difficulty understanding because manic depression is different from PND, dont really see the connection other than they are both recognised psychitirac illnesses.

I stand by my origional post unless wordsith can expalain a little better what she ment.

Vicki, hun you do not need to make excuses for anything. You would if this was 'naughty'. But we are not at school here...

(I cook for the chap, I have time to and I enjoy it. But see nothing wrong with using jars)
What is wrong with using jars other than the expense, what makes then naughty?
anyone????
Qualified scientific evidence only, PULEEESE!

Thanks Lockets.

Oh For Gods Sake Chaps and Vicki...

Please read what i say before jumping down my neck and accusing me of being insensitive to people with pnd.

That is not what I said.

I was trying to make a valid point, which is - choosing pre-prepared jar food can be a perfectly rational, non-pnd, non-crap mum, non-controversial thing to do.

And - if more people were taught how to cook, less pre-packaged food would be bought.

Lockets said it best.

sorry wordsmith cross posted, thanks for clearing that up!

You're quite right Wordsmith.
Hit the nail on the head.

I am astounded by all these threads asking for stew recipes or how many layers of pasta go into a lasagne.
As a nation,we are horrifyingly deskilled.

Wordsmith - please read my last post.....

Yes Vicki but I posted before it appeared.

Love you all...

I;d use fewer jars if ds1 wasn't weeing all over the place.

But wordsmith I agree with you, and had thought the same. On a thread like this you get the "using jars is evil line" then you get the "I use jars because I have PND/severely autistic child/terminal cancer" retorts, and then everyone says "oh that's OK then". but its not OK to be unable to cook, or too busy doing other stuff, only OK if you run it past the mnet police first of all.

Tomorrow I am feeding ds3 home made irish stew. Non-organic beef, so is that better or worse than an organic jar? Must be better because it comes with luuurve?

Am still a bit raw about Enid post
but worte something not unsimilar to that wordsmith, think we should educate where nessesary rather than judge. and except that some kids are bloody fussy and some mums need additional help/support.

Ahh I see everyone on here is still minding everyone eleses business.
From a mum who fed her child jars.
and guess what?

He still alive and here to tell the tale.

Pathetic. Byeeee.

perhaps if you bought him another pair of boden trousers jimjams...

On a final note, will probably take the ds's to McDonalds tomorrow...

Well I do- but he keeps stripping off and chicking them over the fence into the neighbours garden, interefering with my lovely delicious home made smug mummy stew.

will it be on the way to argos???

chicking? chucking!

I didn't have any trouble understanding Wordsmith's post. I thought it was very eloquent and sensible.

perhaps it would add nutritional value to just put them in the stew. killing tow burds with one stone so to speak...

Chaps - no, actually we are going to have a cultural day at a local National Trust property first. So I guess that's OK then on the good mummy-ometer!

(Alhtough the ds's will lower the tone somewhat)

And I agree about de-skilling. I would have automatically used jars "because that's what babies eat, isn't it" if I hadn't read a book beforehand and discovered the wonders of the ice cube method. And I was very lucky to have a great HV who also suggested this to all the mothers on her books.

They call us the DDIY generation don't they?
(Don't do it yourself)