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GoStudent - from an ex-tutor

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TommyAbroad · 16/10/2023 13:29

Dear All,

Following another post I placed in a Mumsnet thread which mentioned GoStudent, I thought that some of you might be interested in having more information before you make any choices about tutoring for your child.

I have been a tutor on GoStudent for just over a year. This company is manned almost entirely a bunch of salesmen and entrepreneurs (not educational experts.) To be clear, the tutors are NOT employed by GoStudent. We are regarded as "freelancers" or something woolly, to allow GS to avoid paying a fair wage, or providing any benefits whatsoever.

I could type a whole essay here, but in short:

Fees you pay, and what the tutor gets
Your 30 quid for just 50 minutes? As low as just 12 of this goes to your tutor. GoStudent take around 60% of the fee. Given that these rates paid to tutors have just gone down even further, along with the abolition of basically all achievable bonuses in the last six months, means that you have a wide choice of underpaid, undervalued and VERY unhappy tutors on board. The tutors have requested meetings with management about pay, and this has been rejected out of hand by the company. The pay has not gone up (even for inflation) for over two years.

Matching your child to a tutor
They claim to do this, but do not. Requests from parents for a tutor are simply passed around WhatsApp boards for the most part, with the "Programme Managers" hoping to find anyone at all to accept the student. Anyone, it seems, will do. The "Programme Managers" are all on commission, and don't seem to care a jot (with certain exceptions.) There seem to be no educational experts left within the company, many of the PMs don't even know the names of the teaching qualifications in the UK.

Sales and parents' contracts
GS will attempt to pressure you into a contract for a minimum of six months. What they will press for the hardest is a three-YEAR one. This cannot be cancelled, and even when it expires, it turns into a three-month rolling contract from there on. This means that you'll still need to give three months' notice, even after your child has left school and no longer needs it. On the very few grounds that they allow you to cancel a contract early, they will demand personal information such as your payslips, proof of unemployment and the like.

Trial lessons, and the tutor you get
You may well get a brilliant tutor for your trial lesson, and you are convinced to join the company as a result. But they very often then deliberately allocate you to a different tutor (this never used to happen) who is on a cheaper pay-scale, despite your first tutor being still available. You won't get a choice over this.

Pausing a contract
Yes you can... but it simply adds those months onto the end of your contract.

Your lesson credits
These have to have been booked by the next month's renewal date, or you will lose them. No rolling over credits at GoStudent.

Customer Service
Appalling. There's nothing more to be said. Once they have your money, you better expect no calls back if you have a problem.

The Platform
For the most part, doesn't work. They have their own classroom called "GoClass" (that replaced Zoom) which constantly has bugs. Video not working, audio not working, interactive digital whiteboards not working, and they are completely incompatible with Apple devices.

The Communications, Tutor and Student
They have, once again, their own software (that replaced WhatsApp) for this called GoChat. Or "NoChat" as the tutors have dubbed it, because messages often never get through. As a result, lessons get missed, and communications are lost.

Safeguarding
The less said about this the better, or I may get into hot water. Ask them if they check the tutors' DBS certificates annually, for example.

Finally, sackings.
This company is as vindictive as hell towards anyone speaking out publicly, or "rocking the boat" over issues such as pay from within. I have been summarily sacked this week (along with five others) for joining the protest against the company changing the rules over trial sessions and pay at just six days' notice for the tutors (they now get nothing for these, and are expected to act as "Salesmen" to get the student to take out a contract.) I had the temerity to send "poo emojis" on the internal message boards at such announcements, and was sacked with immediate effect by phone. Not only that, it was demanded that I do not speak to any students, parents or fellow tutors following my dismissal. They must be joking.

Please everybody, there are many platforms. Better platforms. More reliable platforms. Cheaper platforms. Go elsewhere.

Best Wishes, and thank you for reading,

An ex-GS tutor, who is now VERY happy indeed to do my tuition privately, not through this bunch of sharks.

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TommyAbroad · 07/07/2024 21:38

User7842462 · 07/07/2024 17:32

I thought it was well-known that GoStudent is a borderline scam. They reached "unicorn" valuation so the founders could thrive off their overblown egos. The actual service is appalling. Local FB group has a long-running thread with mums who weren't happy with the service at all and simply cannot get out of the contract. It seems their foremost goal is to get customers on board and charge hefty fees in a subscription model that's extremely difficult to terminate. This produces better numbers for their shareholders and investors, which is all they care about.

However despite all this, GoStudent made of loss of €220million in 2022. The company is reputedly crumbling around the edges so anyone who's still giving them money need to back out asap. They laid off 200 workers last fall and closed their US market before it really started.

Brilliantly put. Investors are all they care about - not students, parents or tutors.

The investors know that the platform barely functions, do they? Absolutely riddled with bugs.

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tensmumllaf · 07/07/2024 23:48

So glad I’m out of it now and we’ve been really lucky that our lovely tutor now tutors my son privately. It really is such a scam.

Saramiah · 07/07/2024 23:56

We are regarded as "freelancers" or something woolly, to allow GS to avoid paying a fair wage, or providing any benefits whatsoever.
I thought this was illegal now? It used to be a loophole years ago but I was under the impression it had been closed.

AmberDeer · 11/07/2024 14:32

tensmumllaf · 07/07/2024 23:48

So glad I’m out of it now and we’ve been really lucky that our lovely tutor now tutors my son privately. It really is such a scam.

Just a word of caution - if GoStudent finds out that your previous tutor is now teaching your son privately (and they are still teaching at GS) they will sack them! Other tutors have had instant dismissals over the phone for less!

PeachLemonGummy · 23/07/2024 08:43

Just FYI for any tutors here. This article is in German and came out today, but GoStudent have allegedly been running a massive tax evasion scheme:

www.trendingtopics.eu/gostudent-tutorinnen-erheben-vorwuerfe-wir-wurden-zu-steuerhinterzieherinnen-gemacht/

There were lots of inconsistencies in their billing system with documents being issued as "Invoice", "Proof of Payment" and other things. These are legally different things and utilised a loophole in the EU VAT system whereby services from Austria to Germany are not subject to VAT. However now many tutors in Germany have been slammed with tax bills dating back to 2022 for whatever reason.

It doesn't come as a surprise at all as the company has always been dodgy regarding money. They lock users into subscriptions that are near-impossible to cancel and were always lazy paying their tutors. Now it seems there was tax involved somewhere that was never paid. They lured European tutors with the promise of the work being tax-exempt when it actually wasn't, effectively turning all their tutors into tax evaders.

This is all massively sketchy for a company with 1B "unicorn" valuation status!!!

TommyAbroad · 23/07/2024 12:01

PeachLemonGummy · 23/07/2024 08:43

Just FYI for any tutors here. This article is in German and came out today, but GoStudent have allegedly been running a massive tax evasion scheme:

www.trendingtopics.eu/gostudent-tutorinnen-erheben-vorwuerfe-wir-wurden-zu-steuerhinterzieherinnen-gemacht/

There were lots of inconsistencies in their billing system with documents being issued as "Invoice", "Proof of Payment" and other things. These are legally different things and utilised a loophole in the EU VAT system whereby services from Austria to Germany are not subject to VAT. However now many tutors in Germany have been slammed with tax bills dating back to 2022 for whatever reason.

It doesn't come as a surprise at all as the company has always been dodgy regarding money. They lock users into subscriptions that are near-impossible to cancel and were always lazy paying their tutors. Now it seems there was tax involved somewhere that was never paid. They lured European tutors with the promise of the work being tax-exempt when it actually wasn't, effectively turning all their tutors into tax evaders.

This is all massively sketchy for a company with 1B "unicorn" valuation status!!!

Thank you, PeachLemonGummy!

I suspect you're a tutor on there... 😂 I might even know you.

None of this is a surprise, a total bunch of crooks and upstarts. Hopefully it is all true, and GS get what they deserve for it. Then the tutoring industry can return to being a rather more professional and caring (and effective) one.

S.

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molly5678 · 23/07/2024 15:12

There are so many people on trust pilot having an awful time with this company

TommyAbroad · 23/07/2024 19:08

Just chatting to some of my old colleagues who are still tutoring there... Tonight's bug? No sound in the lessons.

Stay tuned for tomorrow's new bug report...

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crnewmalden · 26/08/2024 14:45

I can not emphasis enough NOT TO USE GOSTUDENT
I was perfectly happy with the tutor but after the hard sell sign up that supposedly offered 4 free lessons (of course they never materialised) I was not aware I was tied into a 6 month contract. I would never have knowingly signed up for 6 months as this was Feb and my son took his exam in May. But I have just been stung for £950 from a German debt collection agency for lessons I did not schedule or use. If I had been in anyway aware that they could in-force the full payment of the 6 months at 8 lessons a month I would never have taken the contract.
I am looking into ways I can challenge this as they broke the contract by never giving the 4 free lessons. The customer service person you get assigned to, to get the deal signed is extremely helpful but not at all transparent. He was very aware I only needed the lessons for 3 months. Also I am hyper - aware at ever signing up for these things so if they caught me they have definitely done the same to many other parents.
PLEASE DO NOT EVER USE GO STUDENT - for the reasons the ex-tutor above states and that you will find yourself out of pocket.
Not a great start to my bank holiday Monday.
I will be reporting them to the Educational Ombudsman but don't hold out much hope.

molly5678 · 26/08/2024 20:18

There are a lot of reviews on trust pilot where people have reported them to trading standards.
I can’t believe they haven’t been closed down yet, awful awful

tensmumllaf · 26/08/2024 22:12

I’m really sorry that some people are still having to deal with them believing they’re an okay company. Such a bunch of scammers.

out of interest are @mumsnet still promoting them?

crnewmalden · 27/08/2024 20:59

If anyone on here wants to put together a complaint to the Educational Ombudsman please let me know.
I am absolutely furious right now and £950 poorer.
All it would take is for GoStudents customer rep to go through the contract with you and explain what the contract entails and then you electronically sign it. There is no reason to con people like this. Also then when the service is not up to scratch they are breaking their contract with you.
Very simple and works with mobile phone companies et al.
I have used so many other platforms like this with no problem but this is absolutely disgraceful imo.

MauRick · 20/09/2024 11:10

Hi, last month I began a 9 month contract with GoStudent to have my daughter tutored.
The tutor has disappeared, but I am still being charged by debit order. I get no response from the person who sold me this contract, and the helpline is useless. I am going to cancel the next debit order.

MauRick · 20/09/2024 11:21

Hi, last month I began a 9 month contract with GoStudent to have my daughter tutored.
The tutor has disappeared, but I am still being charged by debit order. I get no response from the person who sold me this contract, and the helpline is useless. I am going to cancel the next debit order. If it is not too late, I would like sign your petition, and hopefully recover last months charge for lessons not being provided.

tensmumllaf · 20/09/2024 12:02

@MauRick I would start by leaving them negative feedback on Trust Pilot, it's the only way they started to respond to me.

crnewmalden · 20/09/2024 14:14

Yep if you break the contract they will just rack up the bill until the contract ends and then give the debt to their debt collection wing of the company. Keep a record of all your contact with them. And as the other person said leave a bad review.

artdevivre · 20/09/2024 15:03

@MauRick I had the same issue but a word of advice, report it to to your bank immediately. If GS has your card details, make sure you report it as scam.
At first my bank advised to cancel my debit card to stop them taking further payments. That didn't stop them because they reached to Visa with my details and they still charged two more months, same as you no classes, no cust service to complain, nobody to book classes with. Barclays took a while but they have now returned my money.
Good luck!

TommyAbroad · 21/09/2024 10:47

Does anybody know how/who to contact, to make sure that MumsNet are no longer endorsing them? If indeed they still are? Because GoStudent sure as hell are still showing "MumsNet Rated" on their front page.

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Abc123me2u · 22/09/2024 14:14

TommyAbroad · 21/09/2024 10:47

Does anybody know how/who to contact, to make sure that MumsNet are no longer endorsing them? If indeed they still are? Because GoStudent sure as hell are still showing "MumsNet Rated" on their front page.

I contacted mumsnet, it in the thread. Maybe it needs more than one person to report it but it's disappointing to hear they are still endorsing it. In my opinion it's irresponsible endorsing a company like this, with parents who see mum's net as trustworthy - I can't view it as such anymore due to this issue.

TommyAbroad · 23/09/2024 16:15

Have a look at how many bad reviews GoStudent aggressively take down from TrustPilot...

GoStudent - from an ex-tutor
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crnewmalden · 23/09/2024 16:39

Better check mine is still there!

TommyAbroad · 26/09/2024 12:33

Warning - GS have just announced to all tutors that, as of tomorrow, all lessons will be recorded (audio.) Tutors are being given 24 hours from now to opt out of that, and if they don't, then their lessons will be recorded. GS's AI tools (if they even work) will then be used to produce "easy to understand" lesson reports etc.

This was announced, I gather, just yesterday. 48 hours' notice.

Have parents been notified of this? Have you been given the choice to opt out? Seems to be riding rough-shod over Data Protection...

And would such a move be deemed "a material change to the contract", thereby offering you a legal way out?

T. A.

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tensmumllaf · 26/09/2024 12:52

They really are shocking.

Trampoline · 26/09/2024 20:21

Interested to read this, would anyone know if MyTutor runs in the same way? They use students and I had a pushy sales guy on the phone who seemed to know very little about tutoring when I asked a few questions!

I know that "The GCSE Maths Tutor" online/youtube programme (otherwise knows as TGMT) has been recommended here, has anyone here used it?

TommyAbroad · 04/12/2024 12:19

So, GoStudent are now removing the "opt-out" for every lesson being recorded by them, and AI-generated summaries being created. (And presumably sold for profit to anyone who wants to make money from AI.)

All lessons will now be recorded as a matter of course, it would appear even if you already opted-out. No choice for parent, student or tutor. This "change to terms and conditions" was emailed to tutors today, with less than 30-days' notice. As you'll see from the bottom of the attached image, tutors who refuse to accept this are going to be forced to leave the platform by the 31st December. Effectively, sacked.

How many of you know about this? Your child is being recorded throughout the lesson. Such a material change to terms and conditions would surely offer you a legal way out, if you need one. Thoughts?

GoStudent - from an ex-tutor
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