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Can someone please explain a reason why adults don’t genuinely play with their kids? I feel like we owe it to them

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Parker1970 · 14/08/2025 19:49

Why is there an automatic assumption that any child would lose automatically? kis does not matter what outside type game it is. Is there a explanation as to why this happends?

When your child wants to race you at the playground on the kiddie rock wall, why is there this assumption that your child can’t actually race you? Children can climb a rock wall, why else are these on the playground? Instead it seems that grown-ups will just barely move, and act like the Kiddie wall is the hardest thing ever. Why not actually climb, and actually race your child like they are wanting you to do? The whole point of a rock wall races to see who can get to the top first.

It is the same thing when a child wants to arm wrestle with them the adult seemingly barely even does much of anything, and it is very obvious that they are just straight up letting their kid win. Why doesn’t the adult actually put in effort when they arm wrestle? Why not actually challenge your kid, the whole point of arm wrestling is to see who is stronger. If the opponent loses then they just need to provide a little bit more strength. Why is there this automatic assumption that any child would lose or not be able to play with them?

I have also noticed this when parents have a running relay race with their child. Why don’t the parents actually run? Instead they will sort of do this really awkward walking, and they end up just letting their kid win. The whole point of a running race is to see Who is going to get there first. Why not actually run and actually challenge your kid? Your child just needs to run a little bit faster next time to actually be able to win. Again, there seems to be this automatic assumption that a child can’t run, they have running tracks on the playground as well, so children can run.

If you were to play with a friend it’s not any different. Why would you automatically assume that your friend can’t play? If you’re going to arm wrestle with your friend, do it with your kid, if you’re going to run when you race your friend, do that with your kid . Same thing with Rockwall climbing on the playground with your child. Actually climb, just like you would do with your friend. Why isn’t that just because it’s a child wanting to arm wrestle or climb on the rock wall etc., most adults just come to the conclusion that they are going to lose and can’t play just because they’re a kid in elementary school?

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LemondrizzleShark · 15/08/2025 12:20

Poppingby · 15/08/2025 11:24

Do you know any human children OP? The state of childhood (in case you haven't) is one of constant development, learning, and building skills and strength. Adults never - or rarely - just 'let the kid win'. The whole process of playing with a child for an adult who is engaged with doing it is a constant appraisal of the kid's skill level to see how much of your own strength/skill you should be applying to the task. Even if you don't let them win, you don't want them to feel like they never had a chance do you? Competition for its own sake is not a motivator for most people. Losing and losing and losing does not encourage you to try. Sometimes a kid will suprise you by winning when you didn't expect them to and then you adjust the level of your effort.

Adults 'competing' with children is different from adults competing with adults for that reason, the one that means adults are teaching and developing children at the same time. When a competition is adult v adult you are actually wanting the result to show who is faster or stronger because they have trained more effectively, have developed more skills, whatever. If you have a biological advantage such as more abdomen muscle formed in a biologically developmental process that has nothing to do with effort, skill, or training, then the result of that competition is just a reflection of that biological process which has nothing to do with how hard someone works or how motivated they are. I'm talking about the processes of male vs female puberty here, which is actually I think what you're interested in.

Ohhhhh, is OP making some sort of oblique trans point? Adults being men and children being women in this metaphor?

That is a terrible metaphor on multiple levels and this is still a deeply stupid thread, but would at least explain why they are making obtuse comments like “a five year old could run faster than an adult man if they just tried a bit harder” - didn’t some trans woman cyclist claim biologically female professional cyclists could beat male professional cyclists if they just tried a bit harder?

TripTrapSnipSnap · 15/08/2025 12:23

Either way this is creep territory.

Paaseitjes · 15/08/2025 12:41

You sound like an arse. If I'm playing with adult beginners in my team sport, I hold back and pass to them even though they'll lose the ball fast. I tacke gently and slowly and let them tackle me successfully. It's how they learn and stops them getting hurt and demotivated.

Shayisgreat · 15/08/2025 13:24

Oh, is this trans related?! Ffs! No - men and women shouldn't compete against each other in (most) sports.

My point on my last post about it being weird wanting to dominate in unequal circumstances still stands though so - yay me.

KateBushAgain · 15/08/2025 14:24

Boke 🤮

Cantstopeatingpringles · 15/08/2025 14:35

Shayisgreat · 15/08/2025 13:24

Oh, is this trans related?! Ffs! No - men and women shouldn't compete against each other in (most) sports.

My point on my last post about it being weird wanting to dominate in unequal circumstances still stands though so - yay me.

I don’t think it’s trans related, something much worse, but really strange, have reported but it’s still up

TripTrapSnipSnap · 15/08/2025 14:37

Yes that's my opinion too.

Either way, it doesn't need feeding/encouraging.

kim204 · 15/08/2025 15:24

I don't get the point of this thread OP. Why are you so concerned that people let their kids win sometimes? What about it is bothering you so much? Are you concerned that these kids are going to always expect to win because their parents let them?

Spinmerightroundbaby · 15/08/2025 18:38

Parker1970 · 14/08/2025 19:49

Why is there an automatic assumption that any child would lose automatically? kis does not matter what outside type game it is. Is there a explanation as to why this happends?

When your child wants to race you at the playground on the kiddie rock wall, why is there this assumption that your child can’t actually race you? Children can climb a rock wall, why else are these on the playground? Instead it seems that grown-ups will just barely move, and act like the Kiddie wall is the hardest thing ever. Why not actually climb, and actually race your child like they are wanting you to do? The whole point of a rock wall races to see who can get to the top first.

It is the same thing when a child wants to arm wrestle with them the adult seemingly barely even does much of anything, and it is very obvious that they are just straight up letting their kid win. Why doesn’t the adult actually put in effort when they arm wrestle? Why not actually challenge your kid, the whole point of arm wrestling is to see who is stronger. If the opponent loses then they just need to provide a little bit more strength. Why is there this automatic assumption that any child would lose or not be able to play with them?

I have also noticed this when parents have a running relay race with their child. Why don’t the parents actually run? Instead they will sort of do this really awkward walking, and they end up just letting their kid win. The whole point of a running race is to see Who is going to get there first. Why not actually run and actually challenge your kid? Your child just needs to run a little bit faster next time to actually be able to win. Again, there seems to be this automatic assumption that a child can’t run, they have running tracks on the playground as well, so children can run.

If you were to play with a friend it’s not any different. Why would you automatically assume that your friend can’t play? If you’re going to arm wrestle with your friend, do it with your kid, if you’re going to run when you race your friend, do that with your kid . Same thing with Rockwall climbing on the playground with your child. Actually climb, just like you would do with your friend. Why isn’t that just because it’s a child wanting to arm wrestle or climb on the rock wall etc., most adults just come to the conclusion that they are going to lose and can’t play just because they’re a kid in elementary school?

Because it’s boring and/or there’s a lack of time to do it? Plus it’s important for children to learn to play with other children or by themselves so they can learn to be independent. Parents who play with their children ALL the time make a rod for their own backs as the children then expect the same treatment from all adults.

Calloja23 · 15/08/2025 21:21

All I see here is Why this, why that, why? Why? Why? Something like a five year old. Plus somewhat of an obsession with Rock climbing walls. Sorry, but this is a very odd thread.

ImGoneUnderground · 15/08/2025 23:55

lnks · 14/08/2025 19:55

This makes zero sense

Sorry, not quite sure I understand your comments, or got this VERY wrong / lost the plot, but maybe I just don't understand your title of this thread, when it appears that kids must be beaten in sports / games just to feel that they are being played with?? Child vs adult?

Of course mostly an adult can 'win' over a child at sports, various games etc, but how the heck can that make the child feel better or feel like they can beat an adult at arm wrestling etc??? "quote from your post - "Why not actually challenge your kid, the whole point of arm wrestling is to see who is stronger." My vague guess would be the adult vs the child...... or is that too obvious?? Would they even try again? Unless the child is a 6 foot adult 'child'?

I think encouragement is good, yes, but also thrashing them at rock climbing??

Surely the playing / interaction / encouraging interests is the main part, taking an interest, spending quality time with them etc, yes, of course, but even in Ludo, back in the day, the child had to win sometimes, to build up their confidence? No, I don't agree with 'letting' them win every time, but knocking their confidence by the losing at everything is so easily done, with possible long term consequences?
Again, sorry if I have misunderstood your point. (Seems like a bit of a reverse or an angry post from your 5 year old, who may be better at IT than you, and logged into your account, lol???). Maybe just PLAY (not compete with a child) and have fun?? x

ImGoneUnderground · 15/08/2025 23:56

Sorry, not aimed at INKS, just accidently linked the quote xx

LaDamaDeElche · 16/08/2025 07:18

Parker1970 · 14/08/2025 21:04

I agree with this, but part of skill is you have to get better. I don’t really understand how the child is getting better if they aren’t challenged.

By doing these things in a competitive way on a level playing field with their peers who are the same age and size. This is a really weird thread.

PeachShaker · 21/08/2025 23:51

R0ckandHardPlace · 14/08/2025 20:17

Because I’m massively stronger, with much longer legs than a six year old.

In fact, I’d beat them all. Line ‘em up and watch me snap their puny wrists.

Have you ever raced a 6 year old? By that age they are outrunning most grown ups, apart from tall fit ones and practiced athletes. My 6yo slows down or gives me a head start.

I do genuinely play with him, like pretend play, and yes, tickle battles, thumb wars and obstacle races. It’s a fair fight. But with board games I do ‘let’ him win sometimes if he isn’t because he gets very upset. He’s learnt to take a loss or two, but not repeated losing. So I cheat to lose. Shrug. Yeah, sometimes I don’t feel like playing. Sometimes I pretend and will often get into it, and other times I’ll just say not now.

mathanxiety · 22/08/2025 04:12

Parker1970 · 14/08/2025 20:14

But you’re doing it right there. Why are you making the assumption that you would win every single time? Why wouldn’t you genuinely play?

Lol.

Beating small children at running, climbing, arm wrestling, chequers, card games like Snap, etc, makes them feel small and weak and stupid and dismayed.

There's more to playing with small children than the surface level elements of the activities, OP.

mathanxiety · 22/08/2025 04:16

Though I think the short answer to your many questions is that most adults are not sociopaths.

mathanxiety · 22/08/2025 04:25

Parker1970 · 14/08/2025 20:33

You are saying that she would lose every time, why are you saying that, you’re making that assumption? Wouldn’t she just have to try a little bit harder when racing, or for instance, climb a little bit faster on the rock wall or put in a little bit more strength and arm wrestling? I’m a little confused how it’s balancing it out when you are straight up letting your child win without even seemingly doing much of anything in terms of giving them a challenge. Wouldn’t the challenge be for them to genuinely win?

Oh come on - you mentioned basketball in one of your baffling posts. Are you seriously suggesting a 3 yo would be able to even bounce the ball twice consecutively, let along get the ball through the net so far above him or her?

I played tennis and volleyball at club level and could seriously injure a small child across the net from me if I wanted to show them my best shots. But instead I've played many a game of keep it up with a beach ball or balloons, and encouraged my DCs to hit a tennis ball back and forth gently. This is because I love both games and also loved my DCs (still love them, but they're not kids any more).

Have you ever heard of scaffolding?
Why not extrapolate your notions to school endeavours like maths - drop small children into calculus, because many adults have mastered it, or give a 3 yo the complete works of Jane Austen for Christmas this year...

Cantstopeatingpringles · 22/08/2025 12:36

Guys…think he is posting for off reasons..very odd posts

TripTrapSnipSnap · 22/08/2025 12:40

Yes, he quite clearly is. I'm astonished that more people don't pick up on it.

Grim.

Needmorelego · 22/08/2025 12:41

I'm surprised this thread is still here.
I did report it.

TripTrapSnipSnap · 22/08/2025 12:43

It's because it's cleverly done to not actually be against any guidelines.

Anyway. For the newer posters, it's best not to feed this one.

violetcuriosity · 22/08/2025 12:47

Are you AI 😂

Cantstopeatingpringles · 22/08/2025 13:03

Needmorelego · 22/08/2025 12:41

I'm surprised this thread is still here.
I did report it.

I did too

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