The three sisters who died in the sea in Brighton

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This is sooo dodgy. There’s no recent photos of them, no one knows why they were there.
They were fully clothed. Handbags on the beach.
Their mum was found dead in a lake 16 yrs ago in Birmingham.
Police have reviewed 100’s of hours og cctv footage and nothing.
What the actual fuck?!

Have death certificates been issued yet? No cause of death has been revealed because medical testing is still being carried out.

The full inquest has not taken place yet. It's pretty normal for them to be opened and then adjourned until the medical results are in. It is only then that you hear the full inquest evidence with medical results, reports of the police inquiry, witnesses/any CCTV evidence etc.

Unfortunately I have direct experience of this when my brother was found dead in odd circumstances. Even though it ended up being fairly straight forward with only 3 witnesses - it took almost a couple of months before the inquest.

Has the inquest started formally?

I know absolutely nothing about this, but could it simply be that the occupations were unknown at the time the death certificates were signed and they can't be edited afterwards?

Has the inquest started formally?

It was opened and adjourned on Friday. Common practice when enquiries are ongoing. They're awaiting results from.post mortem tests, and I think they said police are following lines of inquiry.

Death certificates are not issued if there is an ongoing inquest and the cause of death has not been determined. I registered my mother’s death this week and I was told by the registrar to read the draft document very carefully for spelling mistakes and errors as once we had both signed it, it became a legal document and could not be changed.

If family need a death certificate as proof of death for closing bank accounts, life insurance purposes or similar, the coroner can issue an interim death certificate. My friend had to get one of these for her mum as she died suddenly and the post mortem and toxicology took weeks.

i think it shows respect

Yes started on Friday and will be adjourned until October they said (presumably when toxicology will be back etc)

@Lunde I'm so sorry about your brother. Thats awful, and I hope you had some good support around you.

I just find it so odd that noone seems to know what their occupation was- even if they put "not employed" it would be less weird but "unknown"?- bizarre. As a PP said, it feels like they dont exist (I know they do obvs, but it feels like they were ghosts)

I wonder if their father paid for their living arrangements so they lived basically off grid?

I agree a lot is very weird about this case.

I think either the family has spoken to others about not speaking out or people who knew them just aren’t speaking out due to respect. Can’t blame them for doing that.

He’s a security guard, so that’s unlikely.

It's not disrespectful to say that such and such was my good friend and I will miss them though is it? Most families are happy to hear these things when they lose a family member.

Even if a neighbour said something about them being polite and respectful women that would also be a pleasant thing to do.

The fact that there's nothing is really odd.

But they may say that personally but they dont have to go to the newspapers to gossip

@HoraceCope this is true. I guess in this age of social media there's an expectation that people share freely.

That’s not how these things go. The journalists go to them for these kind of stories.

That’s not how these things go. The journalists go to them for these kind of stories.

And it's not obligatory to speak to any journo who approaches you. 'No comment' is a valid response.

My only experience of death certificates was when I registered my parents’ deaths, and my understanding is that this is usually done by a family member; presumably, in this case, their father. (Although I don’t think a final death certificate can be issued until an inquest has concluded.)

However, if their father did register the deaths and obtain the death certificates, I find it strange that he said he didn’t know what they did for work. When I registered my mum’s death, I stated “housewife” as she did not work, and for my dad I said “retired.” I was then asked what his occupation had been previously, and I was able to provide that information. I also registered my uncle’s death; as far as I knew he was unemployed, and that is how his occupation was recorded. I hadn’t seen him for a couple of years, but it didn’t occur to me to say I didn’t know, as I knew him well enough to think it was extremely unlikely anything had changed.

All of this is to say that the registrar or coroner will normally rely on information provided by the family, where there is one. In this case, there is. So I still find it odd that the father or family reportedly said they did not know what their children did for work.

It could also be as simple that the three young ladies were all estranged from their father and extended family and the family do not wish to say this publicly

I read two things between here and Reddit - one is the father was ‘catatonic’ with grief - so maybe unable to engage with questions, but I don’t know if or why his wife cannot answer re their employment status; and the second thing is that he is a security guard and possibly financially supporting them which made me think they lived with him, for running two households on a security guard wage seems impressive. But maybe those things aren’t actually true? 🤷‍♀️ Who knows. The speculation will continue.

and the family do not wish to say

I understand this, I’m a private person and the assumption that people will hand over photos and information to be talked about all over the internet by strangers does seem difficult to those who are private.

I read two things between here and Reddit - one is the father was ‘catatonic’ with grief

He attended the opening session of the inquest by video link and the coroner addressed him directly - expressing condolences - but it wasn't stated whether he actually spoke.

If the first day or session of the inquest is always brief and opens only to adjourn, then I suppose attending via video link is normal, and not because he was unable to be there in person?

Poor guy ☹️

a school friend died and The Sun called us up for our story, her boyfriend was our lodger
shocking,
he said No comment.
and they actually used his no comment as if it was a quote,
disgusting

I think perhaps the family are not engaging with the press and there is no info on Facebook etc about what the women did for work so they are writing ‘unknown’.

Given there is no one on social media saying they knew them or worked with them, it could well be that they didn’t work, possibly for mental health reasons, and the family don’t want to make this public. I am pretty sure the press cannot access an interim death certificate (it won’t be finalised till after the inquest) to see what details the family gave re occupation. So they have nothing concrete to report hence saying ‘unknown’.

There is a closed Christian community near where I live. They wouldn’t speak to the press or have social media either if there was a tragedy. Some social groups are juts very private, they’d eg accept condolences in the supermarket but I doubt they’d say much outside their own group.

The family can of course shield them from the media but they cant flat out lie in an inquest surely? if its a legal requirement to list occupation they cant just say "we dont know"- these things are a matter of public record. You cannot hide a death certificate, as anyone can order a copy in the UK.

I understand them wanting to protect privacy but if you are deliberately trying to not give information that is suspicious (not saying they are doing that of course, but I mean, if someone was)

And yet all of us feed the media beast. We are all on here looking to see what happened and we would probably read the dailymail if there were quotes from their family / friends